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UN, Indian Officials Agree India Worse Than Pakistan, Bangladesh in Food, Hygiene

It is a well known fact that media coverage is heavily manipulated by western governments, particularly the United States. And other lesser media around the world pick up on the stories they see from major American news organizations. Some of it basic checkbook journalism funded by the US government to get desired outcomes.

For example, the Obama administration is spending $50 million on Pakistani media this year to reverse anti-American sentiments.

It is normal Washington practice to use well-timed media leaks in Washington Post, New York Times, CBS and other major media outlets, including blogs, twitter and new social media, to effect changes in policies and behaviors within and outside the United States. Such leaks are almost always attributed to unnamed officials, and intended to put pressure to act in ways preferred by the leakers.

Even the US presidents are not immune from such manipulation. In its recent issue, the Newsweek magazine has described how President Obama himself became the target of such pressure tactics during his Afghan policy review last year.

Recently, NPR's Madulika Sikka, an Indian-American producer of Morning Edition, put the effect of media coverage as follows:

But one thing I do want to talk about in the, you know, what is our vision of Pakistan, which often is one dimensional because of the way the news coverage drives it.

But, you know, we went to visit a park in the capital, Islamabad, which is just on the outskirts, up in the hills, and we blogged about it, and there are photos on our website. You could have been in suburban Virginia.

There were families, picnics, picnic tables, you know, kids playing, stores selling stuff, music playing. It was actually very revealing, I think for us and for people who saw that posting, because there's a lot that's similar that wouldn't surprise you, let's put it that way."


Haq's Musings: Along Grand Trunk Road in India and Pakistan
 
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So predictable.. Dude, when you happily publish Hindol and Sikand's impressions without hard data, why have such a negative attitude towards zaveri...

About Data, lets not start all over again. Ramu, Karan and others gave you a lot of other statistics also on Economy and social situation where Pakistan was lower. We can go about re hashing that or simply read a Pakistani's perception about his country just like we did an Indian's

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There is nothing more basic than food, shelter, clothing and sanitation...and Indians are worse off than Pakistanis on each of these basics.

Haq's Musings: Food, Clothing and Shelter in India and Pakistan
 
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india is dirtiest, poorest and stupid country of the world. indan have no right to live more. i think all pakistani will be happy now.
 
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india is dirtiest, poorest and stupid country of the world. indan have no right to live more. i think all pakistani will be happy now.

Indians deserve much better than they are getting from their failed democracy.

7000 Indians dying from hunger every day can be saved by better governance.

The families of 200,000 Indian farmers who have committed suicide in the last 10 years deserve a chance to live better lives.

Two-thirds of Indians defecating in the open deserve a more civilized existence with access to basic toilet facilities.

All of this is possible if the top 5% of Indians care for the rest of 95% unfortunate souls who happened to have been born in poverty in India.

 
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Riaz, I hope you will still be around when it will be 2020 and we can still talk about India, Pakistan and poverty.

Nothing will change overnight but India is taking the right steps.

Let us see where we will be in 10 years time.
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Riaz, I hope you will still be around when it will be 2020 and we can still talk about India, Pakistan and poverty.

Nothing will change overnight but India is taking the right steps.

Let us see where we will be in 10 years time.
:cheers:

Let's hope India does a better job in the next year than it has in the last ten years that UNICEF attacked as reported below:

India has failed to use a period of high economic growth to lift tens of millions of people out of poverty, falling far short of China's record in protecting its population from the ravages of chronic hunger, United Nations officials said on Tuesday.

Unicef, the UN's child development agency, said India, Asia's third largest economy, had not followed the example of other regional economies such as China, South Korea and Singapore in investing in its people during an economic boom. It said this failure spelled trouble as the global economy deteriorated, while volatile fuel and food prices had already deepened deprivation over the past two years.

The stinging criticism of India's performance comes only two weeks after the Congress party-led alliance was overwhelmingly voted back into office. Its leaders had campaigned strongly on their achievement of raising India's economic growth to 9 per cent and boosting rural welfare.

An unfavourable comparison with Beijing's development record will rile New Delhi. Manmohan Singh, India's prime minister, has argued that the country's economic development is more durable than that of China because it is forged in a democracy rather than by a one-party state.

In a report on the impact of the global financial crisis on women and children in south Asia, Unicef said that food and fuel price shocks had increased the number of people suffering chronic hunger by 100m to more than 400m people. Of these, 230m are in India, where 76 per cent of the country's 1.2bn people live on less than $2 a day. Among many households, as much as 80 per cent of income is spent on food, making them highly sensitive to rice and wheat price fluctuations.

Aniruddha Bonnerjee, an economic and social policy consultant for Unicef, said there had been "stagnation" in the fight against malnutrition and that stubbornly high food prices posed a growing threat to poor families. He warned that with India's growth rates now almost half what they were two years ago, New Delhi would find it more difficult to boost spending on health, education and food to nurture its human capital.

Unicef attacks India's record on poverty
 
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Indians deserve much better than they are getting from their failed democracy.

7000 Indians dying from hunger every day can be saved by better governance.

The families of 200,000 Indian farmers who have committed suicide in the last 10 years deserve a chance to live better lives.

Two-thirds of Indians defecating in the open deserve a more civilized existence with access to basic toilet facilities.

All of this is possible if the top 5% of Indians care for the rest of 95% unfortunate souls who happened to have been born in poverty in India.

YouTube - No Indian miracle

All Indians aren't born rich and wasnt rich before the independence era. You speak as if the democracy has ruined peoples life and made them poorer. If you go by any statistics you can clearly see there are improvements over a period of time.

We started journey as a nation from 1947 just like other commonwealth nations like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Botswana, Zambia,Uganda, Ghana, Nigeria etc etc.

We had hard time in between dealing with the food security and national security that included wars.

As a nation which has struggled through the tough times and have been constantly evolving and now is one among the best in many things the signs of improvement will be showing sooner all later.

i wanted to reply to this post because i have seen Kochi in the youtube link. Kochi is a city in Kerala , which is highly educated state and which has almost negligible poverty and 95% literacy rates are among the best in the country. The overall figure gets down due to only a few states out of the 29 states of the union of India.



I know you earn your daily bread by writing stuff which doesnt qualify for reading for a sane person but dont think this will be tolerated for a long time and there will be a time when you get face to face with the reality
 
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There is nothing more basic than food, shelter, clothing and sanitation...and Indians are worse off than Pakistanis on each of these basics.

Haq's Musings: Food, Clothing and Shelter in India and Pakistan

Arent you worse off in Human Poverty Index and HDR rankings from where you have posted some of your figures?

Also isnt Pakistan's under nourished adult population percentage worse than India's?

Isnt immigration away from Pakistan as a percentage of population many times more than that of India?

Isnt infant mortality in Pakistan significantly higher than that of India

Isnt gender inequality around education so much worse off in Pakistan

And that despite Pakistan getting 10 times more per capita aid from the world than India

Now I could go on but thats just repeating from other threads on this forum.

You didnt answer my question though. When we are fine reading impressions of an Indian about India and Pakistan, whats wrong with reading a Pakistani's impression about the 2 countries as well??
 
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You didnt answer my question though. When we are fine reading impressions of an Indian about India and Pakistan, whats wrong with reading a Pakistani's impression about the 2 countries as well??

Indian writers' Sikand's and Sengupta's impressions are based on direct knowledge gained during their visits to Pakistan, not based on hearsay.
 
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Let's hope India does a better job in the next year than it has in the last ten years that UNICEF attacked as reported below:

India has failed to use a period of high economic growth to lift tens of millions of people out of poverty, falling far short of China's record in protecting its population from the ravages of chronic hunger, United Nations officials said on Tuesday.

Unicef, the UN's child development agency, said India, Asia's third largest economy, had not followed the example of other regional economies such as China, South Korea and Singapore in investing in its people during an economic boom. It said this failure spelled trouble as the global economy deteriorated, while volatile fuel and food prices had already deepened deprivation over the past two years.

The stinging criticism of India's performance comes only two weeks after the Congress party-led alliance was overwhelmingly voted back into office. Its leaders had campaigned strongly on their achievement of raising India's economic growth to 9 per cent and boosting rural welfare.

An unfavourable comparison with Beijing's development record will rile New Delhi. Manmohan Singh, India's prime minister, has argued that the country's economic development is more durable than that of China because it is forged in a democracy rather than by a one-party state.

In a report on the impact of the global financial crisis on women and children in south Asia, Unicef said that food and fuel price shocks had increased the number of people suffering chronic hunger by 100m to more than 400m people. Of these, 230m are in India, where 76 per cent of the country's 1.2bn people live on less than $2 a day. Among many households, as much as 80 per cent of income is spent on food, making them highly sensitive to rice and wheat price fluctuations.

Aniruddha Bonnerjee, an economic and social policy consultant for Unicef, said there had been "stagnation" in the fight against malnutrition and that stubbornly high food prices posed a growing threat to poor families. He warned that with India's growth rates now almost half what they were two years ago, New Delhi would find it more difficult to boost spending on health, education and food to nurture its human capital.

Unicef attacks India's record on poverty

Taken from Unisef site not some cheap insane, mindless, spineless blog

UNICEF India - Overview



The Country Programme, 2008-2012

Government of India – UNICEF Programme of Co-operation

Over the last five years, India has seen impressive economic growth as well as progress in terms of human development. The economy has gone from strength to strength, with growth rates as high as nine per cent in 2006-07, while the population below the poverty line has been gradually falling.

However, in its approach paper for the 11th Five Year Plan, the Government of India (GOI) recognises that even these remarkable growth rates are not fast or equitable enough to reach disadvantaged populations.

GOI has adopted National Development Targets which are in line with – and at times more ambitious than – the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs).

While the current rate of progress of a number of indicators is not sufficient to meet many of these targets, the government’s commitment to “inclusive growth” presents a unique opportunity to improve the lives of all Indian children.

UNICEF’s 2008-12 Country Programme seeks to complement government-led programmes to achieve these development goals, and is guided by the Convention on the Rights of the Child and other international and regional commitments.

Key achievements of the UNICEF Country Programme (2003-2007)

The previous Country Programme focussed on the fulfilment of rights of all children and women, and the promotion of an enabling environment to ensure equity and to strengthen accountabilities towards children..

In collaboration with government schemes, key achievements over the last five years include



Increased household consumption of iodised salt;
Provision of water supply and sanitation to 65 per cent of schools;
Mainstreaming of HIV/AIDS prevention education for adolescents in 75 per cent of all government schools;
Doubling in the coverage in household sanitation ;
Improved school governance and child-friendly classroom environments;
Adoption of Integrated Management of Neonatal and Childhood Illnesses (IMNCI) as a key strategy for child health;



The Country Programme, 2008-2012

Goal and objectives

The overall goal of the 2008-2012 Country Programme is to advance the fulfilment of the rights of all women and children in India to survival, development, participation and protection by reducing social inequalities based on gender, caste, ethnicity or region.

UNICEF’s work is centred on children from neonatal stages to adolescence. There is also a special focus on social inclusion in all these programmes, keeping in mind the fact that the Eleventh-Five-Year Plan emphasises on ‘inclusive growth’ and recognises social exclusion and inequality as a constraint to the achievement of MDG goals.

UNICEF will work closely with government flagship schemes to strengthen their capacity to deliver quality services to all its citizens.

Programmes

In addition to reducing infant mortality rates (IMR), the Reproductive and Child Health programme will also aim to reduce maternal mortality rates (MMR) from 301 to 100 per 100,000 live births. The main interventions will revolve around enhancing child survival and maternal care.

Key results include:

Reduction of IMR from 58 to 28 per 1,000 live births.
Reduction of MMR from 301 to 100 per 100,000 live births.
The Child Development and Nutrition programme will stress on the nutritional status of the mother along with the child. UNICEF will focus on providing technical know-how to enhance ICDS functioning and delivery by supporting training of the field-level workers on the one hand and by conducting a nationwide awareness campaign on the issue with the purpose of influencing policy
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Anticipated results include:

Reduction in the level of malnutrition.
Significant reduction in micronutrient deficiencies.
Child Environment improving freshwater availability, its management, conservation and equitable allocation, as well as access to sanitation and adoption of critical hygiene practices.

Key results include:

Sustainable access to and use of safe water and basic sanitation services.
The Child Protection will seek to protect children from violence, exploitation and abuse. The programme will seek to create a protective environment for children through the improvement and expansion of services to children in need of care and protection and children in conflict with the law under the provisions of the Juvenile Justice Act, child labour laws and other related legislation.

Key results include:

Strengthened policies, budgets, laws, norms, guidelines and tracking systems on children in need of care and protection and children in conflict with the law.
Establishment of child protection units at the state level.
The Education programme will endeavour to fine-tune policies and strategies to increase the enrolment, retention, achievement and completion rates in elementary education. In particular, the programme seeks to improve learning outcomes, completion rates and literacy levels amongst disadvantaged groups.

Key results include:

Increasing enrolment, retention, achievement and completion rates in elementary education.
The Children and AIDS Programme will seek to reduce vulnerabilities, slow down the rate of new infections and mitigate the impact of HIV/AIDS among children 0-18 years old; in addition, the emphasis in the area of prevention will be on the most at risk and especially vulnerable young people up to the age of 24.

Key results include:

Mainstreaming of HIV/AIDS prevention education into the curricula and teaching of all government secondary schools.
Provision of correct knowledge of HIV/AIDS and risk reduction to 70 million out-of-school adolescents and young people, at the state level.
Provisioning of comprehensive PPTCT services to 40 per cent of all HIV-positive pregnant women, appropriate care and treatment to all identified HIV-positive infants and adequate care and protection received by an increased proportion of children affected by HIV at the state level.
Delivery of targeted comprehensive HIV-prevention services to 90 per cent of at-risk adolescents and developing replicable models for HIV/AIDS prevention, care, support and treatment in the 17 integrated districts.
The Social Policy, Advocacy and Behaviour Change Communication programmes will focus on influencing national policies and schemes with respect to rights of children and women through advocacy, and on reaching families and communities on a number of inter-related behaviours and social/cultural norms that cut across programmes.

In view of the fact that almost 80 per cent of India is vulnerable of natural disasters, which cause extensive damage to lives and livelihoods every year, the Emergency Preparedness and Response programme will ensure the fulfilment of rights of children and women in humanitarian crises.

Geographic Focus

At a national level, UNICEF will work closely with the central government in ensuring that children’s rights are reflected and resourced in policies and programmes. In the disadvantaged states of Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh, Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh, the emphasis will be on focusing resources in terms of programming, policy and advocacy.

In Assam, West Bengal, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Kerala, UNICEF will continue to support limited-scale programming balanced with advocacy and influencing policy to build on progress made in the social sector.

At a district level, UNICEF will continue to concentrate efforts on community empowerment, behaviour change, and programmatic interventions, innovations and convergence.

Partnerships

UNICEF will work in close partnership with other United Nations agencies as outlined in the United Nations Development Assistance Framework, the World Bank, bilateral partners such as the UK’s Department for International Development, the private sector, and international and national non-governmental organisations.



We do have a Unicef/Government policy going on acheiving its targets unlike other nations which came as a nation in the commonwealth of nations.So dont worry loosing sleep over Indias problem and find another creative meaningful job.
 
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Indian writers' Sikand's and Sengupta's impressions are based on direct knowledge gained during their visits to Pakistan, not based on hearsay.

And this opinion of your about hearsay is based on what. And who is to judge which impressions are more valid? I haven't seen the actual growth of China over last 30 years myself and know all about it purely from books/journals(hearsay?). But I have a fairly good idea about the economics of that country (as do you). And much better than a lot of Chinese who live there.. So this direct knowledge vs hearsay is just an excuse.. Its the basic " I don't believe it so it must be a lie" syndrome
 
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Threads like this really help neither side. I for one accept and respect the strides and waves made in development by our neighbour. We should show maturity by aiming to better ourselves to the point where we to have an equal or balanced footing on the world stage.

Cheap pot shots like this only further damage our credibility in the long run.
 
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its best to clean up our own house, there are enough issues within. The problem is when the other side makes provocative statements, which induce reactions from our side; and vice versa
 
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its best to clean up our own house, there are enough issues within. The problem is when the other side makes provocative statements, which induce reactions from our side; and vice versa

It's important to set the record straight by pointing out the basic fact that India remains a poor, backward, third world country with huge inequities, not a role model that any developing country, including Pakistan, should follow.

There are much better examples, like China's, to look up to improve Pakistan's situation, and lift millions out of poverty as China has done.

Here is my earnest message to Pakistanis who are easily fooled by Indian propaganda and constantly complain about Pakistan going down.

You need to first stop whining. Then you need to start by seeing Pakistan's glass half full, and then try to find your own ways to fill it up to the brim.

Don't look for a Messiah to come down and show you the way. Light a candle to find your way, stop cursing darkness.

There are plenty of examples in my post "Light a Candle, Do Not Curse Darkness" on my blog at Haq's Musings.

Be inspired from the examples of great people ranging from Sattar Edhi to Akhtar Hamid Khan to Greg Mortenson to the young members of Zimmedar Shehri group in Pakistan.

Donate to Edhi, TCF and HDF and other similar groups. Volunteer for them.

Haq's Musings: Light a Candle, Don't Curse Darkness
 
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