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UN, Indian Officials Agree India Worse Than Pakistan, Bangladesh in Food, Hygiene

So wait a sec. India is lagging behind it's neighbours in terms of BOTH missiles as well as food. I don't get the Versus part.

I completely agree with rest of the article (but not the intentions of the thread starter).

In spite of massive defense spending at the expense of its multitudes of poor and hungry people (especially children), aren't you curious to know why India is said to be behind in missiles? Is there a problem here? Is the money being well spent?

This is basic defense economics.
 
In spite of massive defense spending at the expense of its multitudes of poor and hungry people (especially children), aren't you curious to know why India is said to be behind in missiles? Is there a problem here? Is the money being well spent?

This is basic defense economics.

Sure I'm interested. But this topic can be discussed in another thread. Combining both topics (i.e. defense and food/development) gives an impression that there is a causal relationship.

Of course, there might be a single factor responsible for both, which we might discuss. But that hasn't come out of your posts.
 
But its unhygienic methods that give our food the tasty flavors. So no problem.
 
Mr. Riaz, why give a link to a 14 months old article titled "India lags behind Pakistan in missiles"? How is that relevant to the topic you raised?

Some people are so desperate to take cheap shots at India. tsk tsk

yes we are sorry only indians can tae cheap shots they are the best at it! :coffee:
 
man this guys seems to have wriiteen a blog(even though they r not worth) for all issues in this world.....doesnt he have any other productive use of his time..? :hitwall::hitwall:
 
There was some links given in very first post.

One is from Haq Musing. Other is from Sulekha's article which is 2 years old. Third is also 1.5 years old. ToI link is also from last years. Also ToI is about missiles!! Other is about business environment which too, is old one. S basically all article were summed up just to satisfy ego.
Can someone put any recent updates?

I agree India has to work hard. However those who are talking about "massive" defence expenditure in India, should also look at its economy and the money spent on public welfare.
 
In spite of massive defense spending at the expense of its multitudes of poor and hungry people (especially children), aren't you curious to know why India is said to be behind in missiles? Is there a problem here? Is the money being well spent?

This is basic defense economics.

Oh GOD we are complete loosers........and India has been creating fake GDP growth figures from 1990.....its photo shopping the skylines of Mumbai and Delhi and drugging everyone who is entering in the country to believe that its developing.....and can I tell you a secret that Ahmed Quereshi told me.......commonwealth games are actually a trap to kill Pakistani players and the games are funded by Mossad...hmmm....
 
There is some recent good news about India meeting its MDG for drinking water by providing 84 per cent of its rural population with access to improved sources of water, Rural Development Minister C P Joshi said in New Delhi on Tuesday..

However, the country is facing a tremendous challenge in sustaining drinking water security in rural areas as most water sources are ground water based and have been overexploited for agriculture and industry besides being subjected to untreated sewage, he said.

"India has achieved considerable progress in providing clean and safe drinking water in most rural areas of the country. I am happy to say that we have achieved the MDG for drinking water. However, there is much to achieve. Our goal is to provide every household with an improved source of drinking water by 2012," Joshi said.

Drinking water woes: India meets UN millennium goals! : Rediff.com Business
 
There is some recent good news about India meeting its MDG for drinking water by providing 84 per cent of its rural population with access to improved sources of water, Rural Development Minister C P Joshi said in New Delhi on Tuesday..

However, the country is facing a tremendous challenge in sustaining drinking water security in rural areas as most water sources are ground water based and have been overexploited for agriculture and industry besides being subjected to untreated sewage, he said.

"India has achieved considerable progress in providing clean and safe drinking water in most rural areas of the country. I am happy to say that we have achieved the MDG for drinking water. However, there is much to achieve. Our goal is to provide every household with an improved source of drinking water by 2012," Joshi said.

Drinking water woes: India meets UN millennium goals! : Rediff.com Business

I am glad to hear of the improvement in drinking water situation in India. Hope it helps improve the lives of the poorest of the poor. Based on the data that I have seen, India, and the rest of South Asia, have a very long way to go to meet the very basic needs of their people.

In the context of unprecedented economic growth (9-10 percent annually) and national food security, over 60 percent of Indian children are wasted, stunted, underweight or a combination of the above. As a result, India ranks number 62 along with Bangladesh at 67 in the PHI (Poverty Hunger Index)ranking out of a total of 81 countries. Both nations are included among the low performing countries in progress towards MDG1 (Millennium Development Goals) with countries such as Nepal (number 58), Ethiopia (number 60), or Zimbabwe (number 74).

Pakistan at 45 ranks well ahead of India at 62, and it is included in the medium performing countries. PHI is a new composite indicator – the Poverty and Hunger Index (PHI) – developed to measure countries’ performance towards achieving MDG1 on halving poverty and hunger by 2015. The PHI combines all five official MDG1 indicators, including a) the proportion of population living on less than US$ 1/day, b) poverty gap ratio, c) share of the poorest quintile in national income or consumption, d) prevalence of underweight in children under five years of age, and d) the proportion of population undernourished.

Haq's Musings: Hunger in South Asia Hits Forty Year High
 
Part of the problem fueling anger and insurgencies is the growing number of the poor in India.

India now has 100 million more people living below the poverty line than in 2004, according to official estimates released on Sunday.

The poverty rate has risen to 37.2 percent of the population from 27.5 percent in 2004, a change that will require the Congress-ruled government to spend more money on the poor.

The new estimate comes weeks after Sonia Gandhi, head of the Congress party, asked the government to revise a Food Security Bill to include more women, children and destitutes.

"The Planning Commission has accepted the report on poverty figures," Abhijit Sen, a member of the Planning Commission told Reuters, referring to the new poverty estimate report submitted by a government panel last December.

India now has 410 million people living below the U.N. estimated poverty line of $1.25 a day, 100 million more than was estimated earlier, officials said.

India calculates how much of its population is living below the poverty line by checking whether families can afford one square meal a day that meets minimum nutrition needs.

It was not immediately clear how much more the federal government would have to spend on the poor, as that would depend on the Food Security Bill when it is presented to the government after the necessary changes, officials say.

India's Planning Commission will meet the food and expenditure secretaries next week to estimate the cost aspects of the bill, government officials said.

A third of the world's poor are believed to be in India, living on less than $2 per day, worse than in many parts of sub-Saharan Africa, experts say.

100 million more Indians now living in poverty | Top News | Reuters
 
Several other items like the Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry (JAKLI, a regular regiment of the army consisting of thirteen battalions) and the Coast Guard are also excluded. A substantial part of the cost of the nuclear arsenal and allied systems is excluded. All para-military forces including the ones directly involved in border management are excluded.

Haq's Musings: India's Arms Buildup: Guns Versus Bread

this is interesting.

so by excluding mention of indian occupying forces in Kashmir in their defence budget, they inadvertently acknowledge that J&K is not indian (as they so claim)

thanks for the info. :tup:
 
According to Indian defense analyst Col Nair, the specified limit of 3% has been observed only by excluding several items like the cost of the MoD and the expenditure on military pensions which by itself amounts to 15% of the total defense outlay. Several other items like the Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry (JAKLI, a regular regiment of the army consisting of thirteen battalions) and the Coast Guard are also excluded. A substantial part of the cost of the nuclear arsenal and allied systems is excluded. All para-military forces including the ones directly involved in border management are excluded.

Sorry Mr.Haq.............you might like to read your comment

India is worse than Bangladesh and Pakistan when it comes to nourishment and is showing little improvement in the area despite big money being spent on it

Both of the comments are on same thread...............I wonder how you relate these things.

You are trying to say that India is spending most of the money on defense on other side in your article you said India is spending too much on nourishment.

Conclusion.............Nonsense
 
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