UN: Bangladesh urban population will overtake rural population by 2030

[Godman]

What is your current urban population?
Definition of urban does not mean electrified area but under municipality where you have some sort of planned services like running water centralised waste management etc available. We call them municipal area or urban areas.

If we took that as a standard then the vast majority of Sri Lanka would be in Urban areas. I my self live in a "rural" area despite having all of that.

SL and BD have many difference and have different development strategies so I am not saying SL is "better" and SL is also a developing nation with many humiliating issues.

Sri Lanka probably has the strictest definition for urbanized areas as even Homagama where there is a university and NanoTech R&D institutes is considered a rural area.
In addition Sri Lankan governments keep rural development a major priority for example the previous government had the Divi Neguma which had another sub project called Gama Neguma which aimed on developing villages. The current govt named their project Gam udawa a greatly expanded version of the Gam udawa project of president Premadasa (current housing minister is Pres.Premadasa's son) and under Gam udawa entirely new villages are built for the rural poor, specially the people resettled in agri colonies under agricultural schemes in the past who were given lands but not ownership.

It should also be noted that SL has a far larger road network than BD allowing residents of rural areas to travel to more urban areas when the necessary facilities are absent nearby.
According to the CIA factbook as of 2010. While the numbers have probably changed a lot since then I doubt the difference has largely changed
Sri Lanka total: 114,093 km ,paved: 16,977 km ,unpaved: 97,116 km
Bangladesh total: 21,269 km ,paved: 2,021 km ,unpaved: 19,248 km
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2085.html

So there is not much of a immediate reason for people in rural areas to migrate to cities due to high quality of living and better infrastructure and govt support.

I don't know what is the definition BD uses for rural areas but in SL anything that is not under a Urban Council or Municipal Council is not considered urban even if it has "urban characteristics".

Rapid urbanization will help BD but BD needs to have policies to deal with rapid urbanization. Sri Lanka has many issues with garbage and transport already. While Sri Lanka has mostly succeeded in keeping cities clean the system for waste management is still incomplete and most are dumped to ever growing dumps and some have even become garbage mountains. When a garbage mountain in Meethotamulla collapsed crushing nearby houses the govt stopped dumping garbage there and that resulted in a crisis where the Colombo municipal council had nowhere to dump garbage so they stopped collecting for a while which resulted in garbage piling on the streets.
The govt strategy was to build more waste-to-energy plants and recycling centers in private-public partnerships as well as create more dumps but there is still no porper long term plan

 

[Nilgiri]

Are you retard or butt-hurt or both?

Dhaka contains 11% of BD population, Chittagong 3%, Comilla over 1% and Khulna nearly 1%.
Just these 4 cities make up 16% of BD population.

The increase in the rate of urbanisation is a good indicator of economic development.

Again the point is not what you define as being a "city"...its that others define it way differently, as the Sri Lankans on this thread have clearly pointed out with evidence.

But hey if you want to believe BD has twice the urbanisation of SL (when measured under same standards), be my guest .

It is likely under SL system, BD has less than 10% urbanisation.

Therein lies the problem comparing between countries like this. Differing standards.

 

[TopCat]

If we took that as a standard then the vast majority of Sri Lanka would be in Urban areas. I my self live in a "rural" area despite having all of that.

Looks like you already surpassed major Western societies.

 

[Bilal9]

It should also be noted that SL has a far larger road network than BD allowing residents of rural areas to travel to more urban areas when the necessary facilities are absent nearby.
According to the CIA factbook as of 2010. While the numbers have probably changed a lot since then I doubt the difference has largely changed
Sri Lanka total: 114,093 km ,paved: 16,977 km ,unpaved: 97,116 km
Bangladesh total: 21,269 km ,paved: 2,021 km ,unpaved: 19,248 km
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2085.html

Those figures you quoted are not accurate as far as I know. Bangladesh by area alone is a lot larger than Sri Lanka (147,610 square kilometers vs. 65,610 square km).

While I realize that a lot of investment has indeed gone into highways and infrastructure development in your country and it boasts recently built world class freeways, the road network figures are in error, mainly because you are quoting figures from CIA factbook 2010 and there has been road network changes in both our countries.

I'd say that since 2010 there have been massive changes, in that main arterial national highways (N class) in Bangladesh are almost all converting to four-lane highways with dividers (The large intercity ones for now), and in some cases near cities, six-lane and eight-lane highways as well.

Road (and railways right of way) projects in Bangladesh present special challenges which other countries do not face. The ground (like the Netherlands) is mostly at sea level and criss-crossed by hundreds of small and large waterways (rivers) and water bodies (lakes and swamps) which necessitate small and large bridges every few miles and makes projects many many times more expensive than similar roads in North India and Pakistan, where there is no water at all. On average - all roads have to raised about two to three meters above sea level, increasing project costs manyfold.

I don't know the situation in Sri Lanka but I get some areas are quite mountainous, especially in the South and Central areas, where you'd need viaducts.

These are the most recent figures per Wiki. Please feel free to correct me if you have better sources available.

Bangladesh:
National highway (N class thoroughfare) = 3,790 km
Regional highway (R class thoroughfare)= 4,206 km
Zilla road (Z class thoroughfare)= 13,121 km
Paved Upazilla+Union roads (Similar to B class roads in Sri Lanka) - 81,000 km
(please see https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/revi...rstp-2015-2035-for-greater-dhaka-area.559554/)
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Total road length = 102,000+ km

Sri Lanka:

Various Road grades
A 4,221.37 kilometres (2,623.04 mi)
AA 3,724.26 kilometres (2,314.15 mi)
AB 466.92 kilometres (290.13 mi)
AC 30.19 kilometres (18.76 mi)
B 7,943.65 kilometres (4,935.96 mi)
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Total of A- and B-grade roads 12,165.02 kilometres (7,558.99 mi)[9]

 

[UKBengali]

Again the point is not what you define as being a "city"...its that others define it way differently, as the Sri Lankans on this thread have clearly pointed out with evidence.

But hey if you want to believe BD has twice the urbanisation of SL (when measured under same standards), be my guest .

It is likely under SL system, BD has less than 10% urbanisation.

Therein lies the problem comparing between countries like this. Differing standards.

Who gives a rat's about Sri Lanka?

@Homo Sapiens was trying to compare with Pakistan and India.

If you really believe that cities like Chittagong are not counted as "urban" in India and Pakistan, then you are even more retarded than I thought.

BD urbanisation is going up a lot quicker than Pakistan and India and has just beaten India and that is more reason for heart-burn from a loser like you. Urbanisation is used as a primary marker of a country's development.

 

[Nilgiri]

@Homo Sapiens was trying to compare with Pakistan and India.

Yeah key word: trying.

Who gives a rat's about Sri Lanka?

It quite explicitly shows the different standards at play at an extreme. Why would it not apply to any other country BD is trying to compare to?

BD urbanisation is going up a lot quicker than Pakistan and India and has just beaten India and that is more reason for heart-burn from a loser like you. Urbanisation is used as a primary marker of a country's development.

Whatever you say lol. Now focus on reducing your calorie intake by another 100 for the next HIES and reducing real income by similar 10% like you did in last 6 years of inflation from BD STRONK.....you can get 60%+ urbanisation by the same BBS standards...or whatever number BAL feels most appropriate @Skies

 

[UKBengali]

It quite explicitly shows the different standards at play at an extreme. Why would it not apply to any other country BD is trying to compare to?

Retard...

I have already shown that just the 4 largest cities in BD make up 16% of BD population.
So why cannot you understand something this simple?

 

[Nike]

Who gives a rat's about Sri Lanka?

@Homo Sapiens was trying to compare with Pakistan and India.

If you really believe that cities like Chittagong are not counted as "urban" in India and Pakistan, then you are even more retarded than I thought.

BD urbanisation is going up a lot quicker than Pakistan and India and has just beaten India and that is more reason for heart-burn from a loser like you. Urbanisation is used as a primary marker of a country's development.

I though with homogenous population, largely single party systems and largely non mountainous area of Bangladesh made it easy to be develop? Why so small road length, and mostly unpaved ?

 

[UKBengali]

I though with homogenous population, largely single party systems and largely non mountainous area of Bangladesh made it easy to be develop? Why so small road length, and mostly unpaved ?

As I have mentioned many times before, BD independence start date is 1971. Other countries in the region had over 2 decades head start. You can hardly develop when someone is taking away your resources to benefit themselves.

Just Google what is happening as regards infrastructure in BD right now - it is being built at lightning speed now.

 

[Bilal9]

As I have mentioned many times before, BD independence start date is 1971. Other countries in the region had over 2 decades head start. You can hardly develop when someone is taking away your resources to benefit themselves.

Just Google what is happening as regards infrastructure in BD right now - it is being built at lightning speed now.

In addition - as I mentioned above, road-building is difficult. Paving 2-3 meters above sea level on raised substrate as well as the need for many bridges and culverts increase cost substantially compared to many other countries which are not situated on a delta.

 

[UKBengali]

In addition - as I mentioned above, road-building is difficult. Paving 2-3 meters above sea level on raised substrate as well as the need for many bridges and culverts increase cost substantially compared to many other countries which are not situated on a delta.

True but BD history is mainly to blame.

BD started off at virtually zero in 1971 with no foreign reserves and no way to earn real foreign revenue. It's jute industry could no longer earn huge export revenue due to widespread use of plastics.

 

[Nilgiri]

that just the 4 largest cities in BD make up 16% of BD population.

Again as measured by....that's right BBS (the same people that are saying BD people now consume 100 calories LESS than in 2010 and earn about 15% less than they did back then too).

If any actual competent authority (say not from BD, that would be a good starting point) measured BD urbanisation, they would quickly find just how bad BD definitions are (just like the way BBS launders inflation as actual real GDP).

I mean take the light maps for starters, its clear Bangladesh counts way different when it comes to urbanisation:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/asia/india-nasa-satellite-night-trnd/index.html

From NASA:

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddar...-maps-open-up-possible-real-time-applications

2012, 2016 entire maps can be found there.

You can see the literal difference in urbanisation standards between India and BD, just by zooming into the area:

2012:

2016:

But sure BD is more urbanised than India now if you sez so, coz BBS and its best world class standards told ya so

@Gibbs @Godman @Skies @bluesky @Aung Zaya

 

[Doctor Strange]

I though with homogenous population, largely single party systems and largely non mountainous area of Bangladesh made it easy to be develop? Why so small road length, and mostly unpaved ?

The homogeneous population is a myth. Punch line of politicians. Right now population is homogeneous under central govt and communication etc. In the past every village had their own community and every district still try to identify differently. Other than religion and similar political agendas not much homogeneous was in the past. In BD every village was separate with every other rivers and main areas were divided by large water bodies. In recent years only bridging processes are happening. Building every kilometer of road is difficult with upcoming rivers and roads need to be make high enough so that they dont go down in coming coming floods. Whatever roads are made are costly and kept narrow. Plus some British and Pakistan time factor. This side consisted mostly of rural areas, in rural areas developments dont take place that massively. But Dhaka, Narayanganj, Khulna, Syedpur, Chittagong etc area's development started during Pakistan time.

 

[Nilgiri]

I though with homogenous population, largely single party systems and largely non mountainous area of Bangladesh made it easy to be develop? Why so small road length, and mostly unpaved ?

As you can see from the reply below yours, its basically butthurt and incompetence (and NASA satellite images of much more recent years i.e 2012 - 2016 well after 1971 confirms it).

They will keep bringing it to "1971" but they cannot actually argue any massive transfer of resources (past 1% at best and ignoring what they got in return as well completely) beyond skin deep feelz on it:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...er-than-pakistans.536089/page-7#post-10137373

They will soon find a way to blame this on Pakistan and 1971 too (no matter that its a 2010 - 2016 time period):

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...g-pakistan-behind.556972/page-8#post-10471573

 

[UKBengali]

Again as measured by....that's right BBS (the same people that are saying BD people now consume 100 calories LESS than in 2010 and earn about 15% less than they did back then too).

If any actual competent authority (say not from BD, that would be a good starting point) measured BD urbanisation, they would quickly find just how bad BD definitions are (just like the way BBS launders inflation as actual real GDP).

I mean take the light maps for starters, its clear Bangladesh counts way different when it comes to urbanisation:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/asia/india-nasa-satellite-night-trnd/index.html

From NASA:

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddar...-maps-open-up-possible-real-time-applications

2012, 2016 entire maps can be found there.

You can see the literal difference in urbanisation standards between India and BD, just by zooming into the area:

2012:

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2016:

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But sure BD is more urbanised than India now if you sez so, coz BBS and its best world class standards told ya so

@Gibbs @Godman @Skies @bluesky @Aung Zaya

Retard. Lol

India has more electricity consumption than BD for sure.

So BBS is lying or does not know about Dhaka population then?
BD does not have 160 million population?

What went wrong with you? Did you get dropped on your head as a baby to have turned out like this?