Ultra Far Right Nationalism on the rise in Europe and Russia

[Kambojaric]

Interesting story.
Hitler, Napoleon, Teutons, Swedes, Poles, Lithuania and many more on the little things - attacking Russia from the West.
Russia reflects aggression.
So why Russia has become an active aggressor?
This is map of Africa. I don't see any Russian colonies. May be you do?

Because Russia had ample space towards its south and east to expand into whilst the western powers were landlocked. Russias genocides of the Adyghe and Abkhaz and the way it brutally evicted and transported millions of Poles, Tartars, Romanians are well known.

 

[Desert Fox]

Interesting story.
Hitler, Napoleon, Teutons, Swedes, Poles, Lithuania and many more on the little things - attacking Russia from the West.
Russia reflects aggression.
So why Russia has become an active aggressor?
This is map of Africa. I don't see any Russian colonies. May be you do?

I will present to you historically proven facts.

1). As @flamer84 mentioned, Tsarist Russia was an ally of England, the enemy of France, and thus Napoleon's enemy. There was no way of invading England since it sat across the channel, but Russia shares a land border with Europe so there was a greater chance of Napoleons army clashing with the Imperial Russian Army.

2). In 1919-1920, Bolshevik Communist Red Army under Leon Trotsky (real name Lev Bronstein) and Joseph Stalin attempted to invade and annex the newly independent state of Poland in order to assist the Red Revolution in Germany. This was 13-14 years before Hitler even came into power in Germany.

3). Thirdly, Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union was a preemptive one. Before Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa, Stalin's Red Army invaded and forcefully annexed Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Moldova (taken from Rumania by force), and attempted to invade and annex Finland through similar means but failed to do so. Also, Stalin overtly supported the overthrow of the pro-German Yugoslavian gov.t, and this was the final nail in the coffin which prompted Hitler to invade the Soviet Union because that was the only language Stalin understood. It is also important to mention that before Hitler launched Barbarossa, Molotov presented the Germans with a list of demands from Stalin for installment of Soviet military bases and installations in Eastern Europe. Hitler outright refused to allow such Soviet presence.

Stalin used the Red Army to great advantage during the final months/days of WW2. Red Army steamrolled into every Eastern European country and forcefully annexed these nations into the Soviet Union. That is active aggression.

But such naked aggression is no longer a viable choice today and would only internationally isolate the aggressor nation.

The Zionist controlled West is passive aggressive, they use economic aggression to destroy nations. They buy out political elites/leaderships and steal the resources of Nations, as has been done in Eastern European countries. The national resources of these lands have been bought at fire sale prices at the expense of the common people.

 

[vostok]

Because Russia had ample space towards its south and east to expand into whilst the western powers were landlocked. Russias genocides of the Adyghe and Abkhaz and the way it brutally evicted and transported millions of Poles, Tartars, Romanians are well known.

Transported, not evicted, nations during the war - by the way, as the Japanese in the United States. Only the Crimean Tatars and Chechens - because 90% of them are actively collaborated with the Nazis.
There was no genocide. They did not want to live in peace and robbed Russian city. And in the end, and refused to take Russian citizenship and emigrated to Turkey. Tell me, the Aborigines of Australia or Fmerican Indians had a chance to emigrate? No. They were killed like weeds.

 

[doremon]

ultra far right nationalism on rise in europe.duh so is islamic radicalists.....

 

[vostok]

I will present to you historically proven facts.

1). As @flamer84 mentioned, Tsarist Russia was an ally of England, the enemy of France, and thus Napoleon's enemy. There was no way of invading England since it sat across the channel, but Russia shares a land border with Europe so there was a greater chance of Napoleons army clashing with the Imperial Russian Army.

2). In 1919-1920, Bolshevik Communist Red Army under Leon Trotsky (real name Lev Bronstein) and Joseph Stalin attempted to invade and annex the newly independent state of Poland in order to assist the Red Revolution in Germany. This was 13-14 years before Hitler even came into power in Germany.

3). Thirdly, Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union was a preemptive one. Before Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa, Stalin's Red Army invaded and forcefully annexed Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Moldova (taken from Rumania by force), and attempted to invade and annex Finland through similar means but failed to do so. Also, Stalin overtly supported the overthrow of the pro-German Yugoslavian gov.t, and this was the final nail in the coffin which prompted Hitler to invade the Soviet Union because that was the only language Stalin understood. It is also important to mention that before Hitler launched Barbarossa, Molotov presented the Germans with a list of demands from Stalin for installment of Soviet military bases and installations in Eastern Europe. Hitler outright refused to allow such Soviet presence.

Stalin used the Red Army to great advantage during the final months/days of WW2. Red Army steamrolled into every Eastern European country and forcefully annexed these nations into the Soviet Union. That is active aggression.

But such naked aggression is no longer a viable choice today and would only internationally isolate the aggressor nation.

The Zionist controlled West is passive aggressive, they use economic aggression to destroy nations. They buy out political elites/leaderships and steal the resources of Nations, as has been done in Eastern European countries. The national resources of these lands have been bought at fire sale prices at the expense of the common people.

1) From the fact that France has won all of Europe, by your logic - it 's just the was duty to conquer Russia ? Why not live in peace, how many times offered Russian Tsar ?
Because the Europeans - the aggressors . They could not live peacefully. Although since then , as Russia defeated Napoleon and Hitler , the French and the Germans were far less bellicose . The snake has lost the sting .
2 ) Russian Empire - was an internationally recognized state . The Allies had no right to recognize the breakaway provinces as independent states .
Poland had attacked first in the South- West of Russia trying to restore its borders ages 17-18 , far beyond the boundaries of settlement of the Polish people .
3) There are no plans of aggression , Stalin had not. All this came up later Goebbels and his students from the CIA and the teachers of the Mi -6 to justify aggression against Russia .
Baltic states, Moldova - illegally alienated land from the Russian Empire . Stalin had all the rights to them . They were not annexed - they have been incorporated in all international laws.
The Red Army defeated the aggressor and contributed to the rise power in the liberated countries of the Left parties . And only then , these parties themselves asked the Red Army to stay.
The Cold War began West, not the Soviet Union. If this is not done - the Red Army would have gone home.

 

[DejanSRB]

Also, Stalin overtly supported the overthrow of the pro-German Yugoslavian gov.t,

Nope,mate,it was a England who support coap against our pro German forces.In 25 March 1941,our knez Pavle accept Hitler offer to join Axis forces,two days after British agents pay to our anti German leaders who have great speech ability to organize a coap against Hitler.

Knez Pavle was only one who received such a welcome in Berlin.No other head of the state did no attend the parade in his honor organized in Berlin.

Look at this

Knez Pavle u zvanicnoj poseti Berlinu 1. juna 1939. - YouTube

Unfortunately Hitler was furious,and he say "Serbs betray me,they will pay the price"
Result-OPERATION RETRIBUTION Operation Retribution (1941) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then Croatian chauvinst lapdogs come and start to killing Serbs.

 

[flamer84]

1) From the fact that France has won all of Europe, by your logic - it 's just the was duty to conquer Russia ? Why not live in peace, how many times offered Russian Tsar ?
Because the Europeans - the aggressors . They could not live peacefully. Although since then , as Russia defeated Napoleon and Hitler , the French and the Germans were far less bellicose . The snake has lost the sting .
2 ) Russian Empire - was an internationally recognized state . The Allies had no right to recognize the breakaway provinces as independent states .
Poland had attacked first in the South- West of Russia trying to restore its borders ages 17-18 , far beyond the boundaries of settlement of the Polish people .
3) There are no plans of aggression , Stalin had not. All this came up later Goebbels and his students from the CIA and the teachers of the Mi -6 to justify aggression against Russia .
Baltic states, Moldova - illegally alienated land from the Russian Empire . Stalin had all the rights to them . They were not annexed - they have been incorporated in all international laws.
The Red Army defeated the aggressor and contributed to the rise power in the liberated countries of the Left parties . And only then , these parties themselves asked the Red Army to stay.
The Cold War began West, not the Soviet Union. If this is not done - the Red Army would have gone home.

1.Napoleon had instituded a blockade against England as his fleet was defeated at Trafalgar preventing him to outright invade England.Tsarist Russia didn't cooperate with that blockade and remained an ally of England,that's why it got invaded ,how retarded can you be as not to understand simple things? You were actually helping the anglo saxons that you despise so much.

2.Russian Empire was as much of a state like the Austro-Hungarian Empire,in fact it was actually a prison of nations.People wanted their independence,it was their right as separate nations not to live under russian boot.

3.There were plans of agression,every document of the time points to this.On top of that ,before WW2 Russia ilegally attacked Finland,attacked Poland with Germany?

Moldova,Russian land? You retarded fool,even today after 50 years of mass deportation,forced russification ,romanians still count over 65% of the population,in the 1940's they were close to 80%.Show me the international law that gave you the right to invade you illiterate communist piece of sh&t.

Rise of communist parties...in Romania in 1945 the communists didn't have more than 1000 members your barbarian army brought jewish commisars from Moscow like Ana Pauker and forced into leadership positions,you've imprisoned/killed all romanian politicians who were against communism and purged the state of anti communists to install your lackeys.

You're to stupid even for a communist propagandist,you have no facts ,only your cheap propaganda,God what i ewill to do to you if i would ever get may hands on you....maybe i'll get lucky one day....

The Iron Guard was right when they were burning alive communist ***** like you...That's what you deserve.

 

[vostok]

Nope,mate,it was a England who support coap against our pro German forces.In 25 March 1941,our knez Pavle accept Hitler offer to join Axis forces,two days after British agents pay to our anti German leaders who have great speech ability to organize a coap against Hitler.

Knez Pavle was only one who received such a welcome in Berlin.No other head of the state did no attend the parade in his honor organized in Berlin.

Look at this

Knez Pavle u zvanicnoj poseti Berlinu 1. juna 1939. - YouTube

Unfortunately Hitler was furious,and he say "Serbs betray me,they will pay the price"
Result-OPERATION RETRIBUTION Operation Retribution (1941) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then Croatian chauvinst lapdogs come and start to killing Serbs.

I do not understand - you regret that Hitler had fought against the Serbs???
Serbs - probably the closest in blood and language to Russian. Because of you, we were at wars with Ottomans, and for the sake of you we got involved in First World War . For your sake, Stalin maintained a unified Yugoslavia and not allowed to make the Anglo-Saxons with the southern Slavs in the 50's years that the Anglo-Saxons did in the 90s.

 

[Jaanbaz]

I am interested to hear the view of pro right wing groups here. How will they deal with millions of immigrants in Europe? Do they mean to carry out a Hitler style final solution or what? Or Mass expulsion of any brown looking folk on the streets of Europe?

 

[flamer84]

I am interested to hear the view of pro right wing groups here. How will they deal with millions of immigrants in Europe? Do they mean to carry out a Hitler style final solution or what? Or Mass expulsion of any brown looking folk on the streets of Europe?

Hmm,i don't know if there really are members of pro right wing groups in here. @Desert Fox is a sympathiser but from what i know he is pakistani.
From what i know that is their policy,"if it ain't white,it ain't right" and that's why they'll never have the majority.
Most people,like me,would want a stop of outside european immigration,expulsion of illegal immigrants,no welfare for immigrants (you've came to work not be supported) a tough stance against who don't integrate but for other immigrants,first gen,second and so on who are citizens i don't wan't anything to happen to them.They're citizens just like us,as long as they work nobody should dare to ask for their removal just because they're not white.Even if they don't work,cut welfare,just as you will do to a white european to stop encouraging people to live on the state.

 

[Sun Piwa]

Napoleon attacked Russia because tsarist Russia was a staunch ally of England,the anglo-saxons that you despise so much.

Hitler attacked Russia because bolshevism was a threat to the european way of life,he actually tried to protect traditional Europe with this act but you won't hear this in "modern history lesson"

In both cases(Hitler and Napleon) Russia was actually a pawn to destroy the enemies that really threathened angl-saxon hegemony.You played your part well unfortunately.



That's because you guys colonised half of Asia.

So you use Hitler when it's good for you, against Russia it's a nice guy, against the JEWS it's a monster.

I can say also Hitler attacked the JEWS because they are crooks & wars mongers.

You're just a liar

Terrorist JEW USA create Al Qaeda & chechens to destabilize Russia in Chechenia, Dagestan. Like they create nationalists in Ukrania, Bielorussia, Georgia...

Russia never use jihadist to attack JEW USA

(GOOGLE) CIA Financing of Chechen and Other Caucasus Regional Terrorists

CIA Financing of Chechen and Other Caucasus Regional Terrorists | Veterans Today

 

[flamer84]

So you use Hitler when it's good for you, against Russia it's a nice guy, against the JEWS it's a monster.

I can say also Hitler attacked the JEWS because they are crooks & wars mongers.

You're just a liar

Terrorist JEW USA create Al Qaeda & chechens to destabilize Russia in Chechenia, Dagestan. Like they create nationalists in Ukrania, Bielorussia, Georgia...

Russia never use jihadist to attack JEW USA

(GOOGLE) CIA Financing of Chechen and Other Caucasus Regional Terrorists

CIA Financing of Chechen and Other Caucasus Regional Terrorists | Veterans Today

You do realise that if you don't like the jews to much,and i'm not their biggest fan,there are better ways to deal with them then gassing 6 millions from the toddlers to the elderly,don't you?Now,if you proceed in doing that all your best intentions go down the toilette and you'll be branded for what you are...a mass murderer.

I didn't said he was a nice guy,but he did fight against a dirty ideology which threathened the civilised way of life:bolshevism.Anyway ,bolshevism made much more victims then national socialism but it doesn't have the same bad reputation and that's a historical mistake which should be corrected,communism should be outlawed and its followers thrown in prison.

 

[DejanSRB]

I do not understand - you regret that Hitler had fought against the Serbs???
Serbs - probably the closest in blood and language to Russian. Because of you, we were at wars with Ottomans, and for the sake of you we got involved in First World War . For your sake, Stalin maintained a unified Yugoslavia and not allowed to make the Anglo-Saxons with the southern Slavs in the 50's years that the Anglo-Saxons did in the 90s.

Nope,i regret that we Serbs(after two Balkan wars,after WW1,when we lose 30 % of our population)goes in war with most powerful country in Europe at that time.We could remain neutral,but no we choose to fight and we lose more then one million people again,and insted of make a Serbian country again after WW2.We make Yugoslavia,with butchers Croatis and others and we freed them of guilt.Did you hear about Tito-Stalin split in '48?

 

[vostok]

It is better to die, but honestly, than live like a rat. In addition, the Germans would not have given to be neutral Yugoslavia - because of geographical position.
Russian lost in the WW2 17 millions and lost more people and Great Impire in the WW1 / Revolution / Civil War. But they were fighting for a right cause, and I do not regret the deads - they died as heroes and are now in heavens.
If the Russian were the aggressors, Stalin would simply dismissed Tito and put an obedient man - as used to do the Westerners.

 

[cyphercide]

The uniforms were designed with inputs from Hugo Boss. It always pays to keep a designer in the mix of things.

Wow! This is quite the blast from the past. As it turns out, It seems to be incorrect to state, as I did earlier, that Hugo Boss had any say in the design of uniforms. They were merely the official tailors for the regime and nothing more. The error is regretted.

The connection between Hugo Boss and the Nazis has been peddled so often, and with so many variations, that the true story is almost completely obscured.

Brand’s outburst this week provides a perfect opportunity to set the record straight.

The first myth to torpedo is that Hugo Boss designed the smart black uniforms for the dreaded SS.

Although it is tempting to suppose that the evil glamour of these outfits must have been the product of a fashion designer, there is no truth to it at all.

In fact, the uniforms evolved from earlier Prussian styles. The designs continued to evolve with modifications from the foundation of the SS in 1925 to its disintegration two decades later.

The infamous black uniform itself came into being in 1932 and is said to have been designed by an artist and senior SS officer called Karl Diebitsch, who worked with a graphic designer called Walter Heck.

Neither man worked for Hugo Boss. Perhaps Brand meant that Boss simply manufactured them. In which case he’s right.

Shameful truth about Hugo Boss's links to the Nazis revealed: As Russell Brand is thrown out of a party for accusing fashion designer of helping Hitler | Mail Online

By 1938, the firm was producing army uniforms, and eventually it manufactured for the Waffen SS too - though it did not, apparently, design the SS uniform.

BBC News - Hugo Boss apology for Nazi past as book is published