Ukrainian Arms Industry

[Superboy]

I quote:

"This should be a boon to the domestic defense industry, which has, thus far, had to export almost 100 percent of its products, even though 53 percent of Ukrainian military hardware was over 25 years old, and only 1.2 percent of the military’s equipment was newer than 10 years (business.ua, April 21)."

Ukraine to Develop Defense Industry Without Russia | The Jamestown Foundation

That's pretty bad. No armor piercing bullets like Russian 7N22 that can counter Russian Ratnik armor which by the way is Class 6 protection compared to American Interceptor body armor which is Class 3 I think.

No jet engine. No plane. No tank. No ship. No sub. No helicopter. Best they have is BTR-4 APC.

 

[C130]

can this ratnik armor stop a bullet to the face???

 

[Superboy]

can this ratnik armor stop a bullet to the face???

Such an injury is not fatal.

 

[Penguin]

I quote:

"This should be a boon to the domestic defense industry, which has, thus far, had to export almost 100 percent of its products, even though 53 percent of Ukrainian military hardware was over 25 years old, and only 1.2 percent of the military’s equipment was newer than 10 years (business.ua, April 21)."

Ukraine to Develop Defense Industry Without Russia | The Jamestown Foundation

That's pretty bad. No armor piercing bullets like Russian 7N22 that can counter Russian Ratnik armor which by the way is Class 6 protection compared to American Interceptor body armor which is Class 3 I think.

No jet engine. No plane. No tank. No ship. No sub. No helicopter. Best they have is BTR-4 APC.

WHere did China get gas turbines. Where did Pakistan get MBTs. Where did China get its Zubr's? Iran's AN-140 etc.
Check Sipri > arms transfer database > arms exports Ukraine 2000 on.

 

[Superboy]

WHere did China get gas turbines. Where did Pakistan get MBTs. Where did China get its Zubr's? Iran's AN-140 etc.
Check Sipri > arms transfer database > arms exports Ukraine 2000 on.

Those were developed by Russians, not by Ukrainians. Ukrainians can't build them. Ukrainians sold some used ones from the Soviet days for some cheap bucks.

 

[Special Delivery]

Pakistanis bought hundreds of tanks from Ukraine in the 90s.

 

[Superboy]

Pakistanis bought hundreds of tanks from Ukraine in the 90s.

T-80UD. Very good tank. Ukrainians can't build any tank because T-80 developed by Russians.

 

[Special Delivery]

I'm pretty sure they can build tanks (T-84) they just don't have the infrastructure or funds to mass produce.

 

[Superboy]

I'm pretty sure they can build tanks (T-84) they just don't have the infrastructure or funds to mass produce.

Now they can't. They can't make electronics like optics and computers and laser devices and high power diesel engines. Those were imported from Russia. T-84 Oplot M the best Ukrainian built tank. Very advanced. Like Leclerc.

 

[Special Delivery]

Amazing tank for its time. I thought KMDB's capabilities were more robust as they claim they can build a lot of shit.

 

[Superboy]

Amazing tank for its time. I thought KMDB's capabilities were more robust as they claim they can build a lot of shit.

I haven't seen any T-84 Oplot M in battle this year. I don't think any of them works without importing stuffs from Russia.

 

[Beast]

WHere did China get gas turbines. Where did Pakistan get MBTs. Where did China get its Zubr's? Iran's AN-140 etc.
Check Sipri > arms transfer database > arms exports Ukraine 2000 on.

Gas turbine engine for tank are crapped. They eat fuel like no tomorrow. The Chinese VT-4 tank with Chinese made 1300hp disel engine solved the pakistan army problem.

 

[Penguin]

Those were developed by Russians, not by Ukrainians. Ukrainians can't build them. Ukrainians sold some used ones from the Soviet days for some cheap bucks.

Really? So, how come the FIRST Russian made GTu's are from 2007? Perhaps because "In soviet time Nikolaev based Zorya Mashproject used to specialize on building naval turbines for the soviet Navy."?
Russian Navy to get Russia’s first naval gas turbines - English pravda.ru

"The T-84 is the latest Ukrainian development of the T-80 series, designed by KMDB in Kharkiv. A main design objective was to make Ukraine's arms industry independent of Russia's, after resulting difficulties in fulfilling a contract to supply T-80UD tanks to Pakistan"
T-84 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gas turbine engine for tank are crapped. They eat fuel like no tomorrow. The Chinese VT-4 tank with Chinese made 1300hp disel engine solved the pakistan army problem.

Forget Gtu's for tanks. What do you think the new Chinese major surface ships use.....

052B
Propulsion - 2 x Zorya-Mashproekt DN80 gas-turbines
2 x MTU Friedrichshafen 12V 1163TB83 diesels
052C
2 DN80 / 2 QC-280 gas turbines each generating 24 MW / 28 MW and
2 MTU Friedrichshafen 12V 1163TB83 diesels each generating 5 MW
052D
Two QC-280 gas turbine engines, each generates 28MW of power and two MTU 20V 956TB92 diesel engines, each generates 6 MW of power.

 

[Superboy]

Ukraine used to be the biggest ship builder in the USSR, no? Now Ukraine cannot build a single ship

 

[Penguin]

Zubr for Greece: four ships. Three vessels were commissioned in 2001: the Kefalonia (L180) was purchased used from the Russian Navy and upgraded, the Ithaki (L181) which was completed in Ukraine, and the Zakynthos (L183) which was built in Russia. A fourth vessel, the Kerkyra (L182), was launched in June 2004 at St. Petersburg yard and was commissioned in January 2005. I.e. ALSO BUILT IN UKRAINE.
Zubr-class LCAC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia