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Ukraine says Malaysian airliner shot down, 295 dead: agency

The Ukies are losing the battle on the ground. So want to gain international sympathy by blowing an airliner and trying to blame it on the Novorussian defense forces.
 
Looks like those pro-Russian rebels mistook this plane for a Ukraine Transport Plane and fired a missile and shot it down.
 
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UKRAINIAN OFFICIAL:
We have recording of Phone calls between terrorists Discussing "Shoot down"
 
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Many conspiracy theories are already floating around. & the West can easily manipulate any incident to it's advantage. I wouldn't be surprised if this is all a part of the larger game plan. Then again.. feel bad for the family of those departed souls... & Malaysian Airline too. They seems be the guinea pig in this geopolitical & geo-strategic experiment!

AM only hoping this is not used as an excuse for NATO intervention .
 
Ukrainian Military are in possession of Buk missiles not the separatists .

Again, how do you know that? AFP correspondents reported seeing BUk missiles in rebel territory 48 hours prior to this incident.
 
@Hashshāshīn
StrigonThis is what I mean by delusional (read previous few posts). Why does every single thing that happens got to be "Amerika did it"?

There are plenty non-Pakistanis also saying Russia did it. Where are your hateful screams in that case? Or even better why you care so much? To us, you seem like a citizen of no where and/ or too ashamed to reveal your country.

If you are so immature to even pay a mind to people talking without any source/ evidence then you should just stay at a day care center. Maybe start over.

Since I and many other Pakistanis joined the thread we have been talking about how sad the event is and not blaming anyone without evidence but obviously you dont see those posts. Seems like you have an agenda here.
 
20.16 The Ukrainian security services have released what they say are recordings proving that Russian military intelligence ordered MH17 to be shot down.

0.15 The International Air Transport Association, the global airline body based in Geneva, is denying reports that the Malaysia Airlines flight was in restricted airspace at the time it went down.

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Based on the information currently available, it is believed that the airspace that the aircraft was traversing was not subject to restrictions.
 
Let's not jump in to conclusions, all these 3 countries, Russia (Soviets), U.S and Ukraine have a history of this barbaric act, shooting down civilian airliners and I wouldn't be surprised if any of them have done this or secretly supported it.
 
Now, different situation there, Whole world knows that Russia is supporting rebels there.
and whole world knew Kiev just dies for blaming something quiet nasty to separatist to get help from NATO after loosing its air-force at a dangerous rate.
 
AM only hoping this is not used as an excuse for NATO intervention .
Would be a foolish thing to do. If there's going to be a head on collision between NATO & Russia... it won't be just confined to them alone. Lot many countries will get sucked into this or will be forced to take sides!
 
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