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Ukraine says Malaysian airliner shot down, 295 dead: agency

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How do you know that? they just took down a su25 and a military jet which are much more difficult targets with counter measures. This could have been a rebel mistaking it for something else.

they don't fly at 33,000 ft , they fly much lower than that ...
 
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Murder of 295 passengers was attempt to bring situation in eastern Ukraine in broader sense, to get legitimacy for EU/NATO/Ukraine joint operation against people of eastern Ukraine.

We should remember that "a wounded dog ever bits in short" because some one couldn't digest loss of Crimea.
 
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Why would they do that? Most of the media in the west seems to be pointing fingers at Russia. Then again.. it would be naive to come to that sort of conclusion this early.

First they divert the aircraft into a conflict zone and then you get reports of two fighter jets escorting the aircraft.
I don't know of the second report is true but if both are factually correct statements . then this looks very bad
 
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@Strigon This is what I mean by delusional (read previous few posts). Why does every single thing that happens got to be "Amerika did it"?
 
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they don't fly at 33,000 ft , they fly much lower than that ...

If someone can take out a su25 which has auto countermeasures and which is much more agile and faster than one can take out a lumbering passanger plane. Height is your only issue here it seems. Buk has an effective range of 62000 ft.
 
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Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said the jet may have been downed near the city of Shaktarsk in the volatile Donetsk region.

“We do not exclude that the plane was shot down and confirm that the Ukraine Armed Forces did not fire at any targets in the sky,” Poroshenko said in a statement.

Pro-Russian activists fighting the Ukrainian government said the jetliner had been shot down by a Ukrainian jet.

“Witnesses watching the flight of the Boeing 777 passenger plane saw it being attacked by a battle plane of the Ukrainian forces,” the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic (LPR) said in a statement.

“After that the passenger plane split in two in the air and fell on the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic,” it said.

PressTV - Malaysia passenger plane ‘shot down’ over Ukraine, 295 dead

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This is clearly a message to the Kuala Lumpur War tribunal which is going to impeach Israel for their war crimes! You remember the KLWT found Bush and Blair guilty for war crimes and crimes against humanity. This is the second malaysian Civil aircraft shot down by the NATO forces. In may they did military exercices in Thailand and this time in Ukraine! These criminal bunch should be impeached too.

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.....It is heart breaking!!....... Is it COINCIDENT that plane is a Malaysian Plane??........Or is this SPECIFICALLY AIMED toward Malaysia???.........The ONLY country who had a INTERNATIONAL war crime TRIBUNAL COURT about WAR CRIMES committed by BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFIELD .........And found them GUILTY of committing war crimes??........... Just some thing to thing about??........ Two Malaysian plane in such a short time??......... In such a questionable circonstences!!!.........Our deep condolences to the family for this HEART BREAKING NEWS..........May they rest in PEACE!

Facts: Months ago a court in Malasia declared Israel guilty for crimes against humanity. There's the second plain of Malasia airlines lost in a short time. Coincidence?
 
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If someone can take out a su25 which has auto countermeasures and which is much more agile and faster than one can take out a lumbering passanger plane. Height is your only issue here it seems. Buk has an effective range of 62000 ft.

Ukrainian Military are in possession of Buk missiles not the separatists .
 
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First they divert the aircraft into a conflict zone and then you get reports of two fighter jets escorting the aircraft.
I don't know of the second report is true but if both are factually correct statements . then this looks very bad
Many conspiracy theories are already floating around. & the West can easily manipulate any incident to it's advantage. I wouldn't be surprised if this is all a part of the larger game plan. Then again.. feel bad for the family of those departed souls... & Malaysian Airline too. They seems be the guinea pig in this geopolitical & geo-strategic experiment!
 
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