Liberal secular states don't even recognize its minorities as minorities and as such can commit atrocities against them under numerous excuses. Unlike liberalism/secularism , islamic sharia recognizes minorities as minorities and gives them due rights . That was the case with all the multicultural islamic empires for 1400 years. Even today minorities in post-colonial degraded secular muslims states enjoy far more rights than minorities of the west , china , india or russia. Its really amusing when these intolerant secular shitholes of the west dare lecture muslims on minority rights.
And Add "Yes(they need to kick them out!)" the poll will be full
Their country their law don't like it dont go there ...Catholic schools in poland are registered and working legal why should muslims schools work like a sect?
Most british muslims r natives , born & raised in Britain. Native white brits r accepting islam becoming muslims in droves.
How can u kick out natives from their native land?
Did u read the article. Its mosque , a religious place of worship. According to secularism the state has no business with the affairs of religious places. Are u saying secular = hypocrisy and intolerance? Its a fact that secularism is a intolerant hypocritical ideology and inherently anti-religion but r u ready to accept and admit this fact?
Luffy is getting salty over what quite a few muslim countries do including turkey . UK is one of the most multicultural nation on this planet . See first hand how they treat their minorities. They ever restructured their exams around Ramzan so that Muslim students are not under undue stress during exam . Compare it to how Muslim countries treat their immigrant Muslims leave alone minorities .
majority Mosque & Madrassas in majority muslim countries r independent. Historically mosques and Madrassas were also independent in islamic empires. The gov take over of Madrassas in muslim countries are a post-colonial phenomenon.
Religious places of worship in the west are also independent by law. Communist shitholes interfered into private beliefs of its citizens.
Most of the muslim world apart from a select few are secular shitholes ruled by secular dictators. SO its natural that they won't treat muslims well.
Non-muslims live lavish lives in most of the secular muslim majority shitholes.
Well I don't see how this is a bad thing, seeing from my own experiences how many madrassas have been trying to hide under the radar for years. The government is also really training its sights in particular sects i.e. the Salafis, who have been exposed on numerous programs peddling nonsense in their schools. It's not just Muslims either, read this;
Charedi Talmud Torah Tashbar: Stamford Hill Jewish school that does not teach English ordered to close | Home News | News | The Independent
I think i won't be wrong if i say u r absolutely ignorant of what salafism is. It seems islam doesn't suit your notions regarding life and it is an obstacle to full filling your desires. That's understandable but what's not understandable is why resort to supporting underhanded , unlawful tactics & lies to suppress something u hate? ....................like u r defending this neo-con anti-islamic british gov that bombs muslims in ME and lectures its muslim minorities at home abt their beliefs.
If u didn't know mosque r NOT schools.
Btw u r pretty good at using/abusing your power as a mod like u did in that religious thread (supposedly banned on PDF) on christmas that u opened. I didn't know that there r different rules for members & moderators on secular liberal PDF.
ALL schools here are beeing inspected, since all schools have to meet certain requirements.
A "muslim" school, not teaching the pupils about Christianity would be shut down.
Likewise a Christian school, not teaching pupils about Islam would be shut down.
And agitating against groups of people due to their race, religion or sexuality
can be unlawful, depending aggressiveness.
A "Madras", only teaching the Qur'an and not math, history etc would not be acceptable.
Most certainly, schools will and should be shut down if they do not follow the guidelines.
If Muslims believe in something which is against local laws,
then they need to work to have these laws changed.
If they cannot produce a convincing argument,
then they need to comply, or leave.
Mosque are NOT schools. Is it that hard to understand.
Why should muslim kids learn christianity or christians learn any religion other than christianity in school in a secular state? What business does a secular state have in dictating religion to kids? Seculars themselves scream their heart out lecturing others that a secular state allow all religious groups to practice their faith and doesn't interfere in religious institutes and places of worship. SO why this backtracking and hypocrisy when it comes to muslims? May be it has to do with the fact that secularism itself is political arm of the religion of liberalism and liberalism doesn't tolerate any religion that doesn't subscribe to liberal values. In other words liberalism is an intolerant religion that is inherently facist.
Btw when a muslim school has to teach christinaity , can it teach its people islam's view on Christianity? Or does it have to teach christinay from a catholic's or protestant's POV? Why should a secular state even dictate such a thing?
If u didn't know , sharia allows non-muslims to practice their faith in an islamic state. Muslims never gave excuses of multiculturalism to force convert non-muslims even though islamic empires for 1400 years were the biggest multicultural superstates. Muslims did justice with non-muslims something liberal western shitholes r incapable of doing with their minorities.............any minorities not just muslims.
Muslims recognized its minorities as minorities and gave them due rights unlike liberal secular states .
What business does a liberal secular state have with thoughts and beliefs of its citizens? liberals prides themselves on freedom of speech and freedom of belief?
So beliefs going against liberal values or values sanctioned by the majority is a crime now in liberal secular europe?
Every country has a right to register what is being built on its soil, mosques should be no exemption. If any mosque or any religious idea is against the country's laws or ideology, state has every right to dictate what should be taught on its soil. I don't know why we think there should be special treatment for our views everywhere.
SO every country has the right to oppress its minorities?
Who decides law of the land and who decides whether an idea goes against the law of the land? And why should any idea going against the law of the land be criminalized? if u didn't know one of the fundamental principles of making laws in hypocritical liberal secular states is that nothing can be deemed illegal unless it causes direct physical harm to individual members of the society. NO idea can be banned. They allowed blashphemy , prostitution , homosexuality etc based on that principles of individual consent and harm. Now they are debating incest and genetically modified babies.
Your ignorance baffles me. Muslims r NOT demanding special treatment. They r just demanding their basic right of practicing their faith peacefully , something secular states supposedly "guarantees". Now the right to teach your kids morality & religion is something special according u? Why do u hate muslims so much?
Ouffff.................Finally a reasonable Muslim member here. I was beginning to lose hope from some Islamist members here who seem to think the whole world and west is creating some sort of evil plan against Muslims. LMAO.
These people's delusions has no boundaries bro. You cant talk sense to them, just let them be.
At least we have some reasonable Muslim members here like you and my friend
@xenon54 . So all hope is not yet lost.
That guy in exile is a qadiyani , NOT a muslim. Just making sure u r NOT mislead.
What's an islamist?
How r these people delusional? Is that boundary set by u?
Well, when you listen to some Muslim members like that guy making such claims, you understand why many middle eastern/Muslim countries today(including his own country) are so backward. No wonder many of them will rather run away to so called 'un-Islamic evil immoral' western nations than remain in their own 'holy moral' country. lol
If the majority of people in their countries think like him, then there is little hope that region will once again rise up/catch up with the rest of the modern world.
You don't need to tell him that. I'm sure many of them already know this. But they say something different for other reasons.
What claims did i make? I stated facts.
How do u define backwardness? What's constitutes backwardness?
Interesting u mention my country. My country is secular shithole ruled by a secular tyrant backed by other secular states including Britian. No wonder its a backward shithole.
Hello Mullah boy, If you want to teach hatred against others or that homosexuals should be murdered then gtfo out of UK oh wait you are not even in UK, you're not a British citizen either, your views does not count. Last time I checked Bangladeshi government is kicking your mullahs to the kerb.
Hello qadiyani. Its amusing to know that u being a british (assuming u r raised there) lack the very basic comprehension of english. When did i even say homosexuals should be murdered in UK in that post? Are u so pathetic at comprehension or u r so desperate to defend anti-islamic bigotry that u need to put up straw-men argument? No wonder u like the tyrannical BD goverment.
really? for someone to say "yes' in this poll they have to admit they are liberal? that shows how prejudiced the OP is. Why even bother with a poll?
YES Britain has a right to protect itself from any security threat and since mosques and masjids have had a pattern of radicalizing youth into terrorists, Britain has a right and DUTY to regulate them and watch what happens their. That can only be done if they maintain records of all such locations
A hindutvadi extremist like u should not be talking abt prejudice.
If u didn't notice , most of the people defending this bigoted anti-islamic policy of neo-con british gov are self-proclaimed liberals. This thread itself vindicates the poll options.
The UK is not a muslim country, they are free to have laws that they feel best. If Muslims have a problem with it, they are encouraged to immigrate. You are not even in this country, why are you worrying so much?
An extremist is anyone who calls for the murder or persecution of anyone unjustly. What's your definition of an extremist? Anyone who doesn't believe with your Jamaati beliefs? Do you as a jamati get it?
UK is a self-declared secular liberal state that bombs muslim countries to spread secularism and democracy. They lecture muslims on freedom of religion and claim how great and civilized they are.They r signatory to all the human rights treaties they themselves promoted and r based on their values. SO yes muslims anywhere in the world should have a problem when they see their fellow british muslims r targeted by a hypocritical anti-islamic gov. Muslims worry abt each other unlike qadiyanis who worry abt their british masters.
Point out where in that post i mentioned murdering someone unjustly? Lying and putting up strawmen argument r hallmark of qadiyanis . U can't write anything without lying can u ?
