UK asks Pakistani elite to sign social contract with its people

[Khalnaldo]

Pakistani tax system is designed that no one can avoid taxes, than where did you get your figures?

People of Pakistan pay taxes, when they buy house, land, deposit money or withdraw it, buy bread or water, drive or fly, even when you go to toilet you pay tax in Pakistan.

In past i have made open request... to guide me to a state which charge more tax than Pakistan.. but no one came forward, but never quit misleading the people as well.

i have no idea where you got this information from but i can say its all false.

Only 3% of pakistan population pays tax.
Almost every country on this mother earth pays more tax than pakistan.

VAT or what you call paying tax on bread is not same as paying tax on your earnings. Global system works on taxation.
Roads, Hospitals Schools everything runs on tax.
if everyone in Pakistan paid tax, the treasury would be the richest in the world....

 

[Albatross]

I wonder why they think Pakistan is so important for the world , I mean africa and dozens of others need help more than Pakistan , Uk people should rise against it as I am sure most of this aid like americans will flow into accounts of private NGO's from where it then gets distributed to their private contractors and mercenaries playing horrific blood games just to malign and weaken pakistan . Only 2,3% is spent on some welfare projects and that too to complete their photo op to show on to their public.

 

[Langda Tyaagi]

Well its not your fault for most of the Indian posters (that i encounter on Def.PK) the world only consists of one country named India.

It was nice to talk to you for the first time.

 

[PakPrinciples]

Most if not all of Britain's AID to Pakistan was used by the PPP to fund the "Benazir Income Support Programme" which is why parties like the PTI were so adamantly against it since it was used as a propaganda/political tool to buy votes without enacting necessary reforms (ex. tax collection).

Pakistan doesn't require AID if it raises it's tax to GDP ratio to around 17% to meet the yearly budget which is more than possible considering both China and India have the same tax to GDP ratio and Pakistan has a lower GINI coefficient.

AID isn't an altogether bad thing but when it doesn't get to the people and/or prevents necessary reforms to a countries economy than it does more harm than good in the long run. It would be better for the UK to use the money and invest in Pakistani businesses (ex. the energy sector) directly for profit that way it's sustainable.

 

[Pakistanisage]

in our type of culture tax is not the solution...
the solution lies in government holding all utility services such as electric,gas and water...and earning revenue by bills...That will keep utilities cheap and invest people's money back in people.

That makes absolutely no sense.

The person who does not want to pay taxes will not pay utility bill either.

If he is a Tax thief, he will steal water and electricity, as most of them do already.

In our culture, these thieves are masters of "Kunda" style of stealing Electricity.

 

[surya kiran]

@for truth

Our upcoming Fuhrer has paid $250 tax in last many years and paid no tax during exile when his factories were still operating in Pakistan.

This can be legally managed. If the money is not transferred to his personal account in Pakistan, then there technically cannot be a tax. But, if you pull out profits to a foreign entity (which can be shown to be a consultant) and that entity then pays Fuhrerji for his services in a tax free country.

This is legally possible. Any other tax person like @Armstrong can confirm if this can be done in Pakistan.

 

[Armstrong]

This can be legally managed. If the money is not transferred to his personal account in Pakistan, then there technically cannot be a tax. But, if you pull out profits to a foreign entity (which can be shown to be a consultant) and that entity then pays Fuhrerji for his services in a tax free country.

This is legally possible. Any other tax person like @Armstrong can confirm if this can be done in Pakistan.

Unfortunately I studied British Taxation System throughout & therefore I don't know much about Pakistan's Tax System - Something that I've got to remedy soon !

 

[BATMAN]

we are talking about direct taxes not indirect taxes

How can you charge direct tax to 100% Pakistanis?

I'm not sure what is in your mind!

 

[BATMAN]

i have no idea where you got this information from but i can say its all false.

Only 3% of pakistan population pays tax.
Almost every country on this mother earth pays more tax than pakistan.

VAT or what you call paying tax on bread is not same as paying tax on your earnings. Global system works on taxation.
Roads, Hospitals Schools everything runs on tax.
if everyone in Pakistan paid tax, the treasury would be the richest in the world....

Not even a beggar in Pakistan avoid tax.
I'm not sure where you have your figures from!
In Pakistan not all people have jobs, and if you do have a job in Pakistan, income tax is charged on as low income as $500/month, still feeding a family of average 5 person.
Give me a comparable example, where tax is charged on as low income as $500/month!

Rich people in Pakistan do not have any business but they earn money due to corruption / extortion... examples are Asif ALi Zardari and Altaf Hussain. Taxing corrupt money means you will patronize corruption.

Despite the fact that Pakistanis pay highest taxes in the world but they get nothing in return, all services are privately paid.. medical is private, education is private, infrastructure development is private, people are mostly self employed.

Anyway, collected tax and extorted money from Pakistan, is already being deposited in foreign banks and Pakistan shall have agreement of collecting stolen money back from those foreign states and UK is one of those.

 

[valkyr_96]

Not even a beggar in Pakistan avoid tax.
I'm not sure where you have your figures from!
In Pakistan not all people have jobs, and if you do have a job in Pakistan, income tax is charged on as low income as $500/month, still feeding a family of average 5 person.
Give me a comparable example, where tax is charged on as low income as $500/month!

Rich people in Pakistan do not have any business but they earn money due to corruption / extortion... examples are Asif ALi Zardari and Altaf Hussain. Taxing corrupt money means you will patronize corruption.

Despite the fact that Pakistanis pay highest taxes in the world but they get nothing in return, all services are privately paid.. medical is private, education is private, infrastructure development is private, people are mostly self employed.

Anyway, collected tax and extorted money from Pakistan, is already being deposited in foreign banks and Pakistan shall have agreement of collecting stolen money back from those foreign states and UK is one of those.

Agreed most people are in the tax net but questionable reported understates profits and hence the actual tax paid is little that is one way we find out that corruption

 

[Saifullah Sani]

How can you charge direct tax to 100% Pakistanis?

I'm not sure what is in your mind!

we are talking about Pakistani elite

 

[That Guy]

There has to be tax reform as well as political reform. Every politician that hasn't filed their taxes should be kicked out of office.

The Brits are absolutely right on this, if Pakistani elites don't start paying taxes and the people of Pakistan continue to stupidly support them, then Pakistan deserves all the pain it suffers.

 

[STEELMAN]

Not even a beggar in Pakistan avoid tax.
I'm not sure where you have your figures from!
In Pakistan not all people have jobs, and if you do have a job in Pakistan, income tax is charged on as low income as $500/month, still feeding a family of average 5 person.
Give me a comparable example, where tax is charged on as low income as $500/month!

Rich people in Pakistan do not have any business but they earn money due to corruption / extortion... examples are Asif ALi Zardari and Altaf Hussain. Taxing corrupt money means you will patronize corruption.

Despite the fact that Pakistanis pay highest taxes in the world but they get nothing in return, all services are privately paid.. medical is private, education is private, infrastructure development is private, people are mostly self employed.

Anyway, collected tax and extorted money from Pakistan, is already being deposited in foreign banks and Pakistan shall have agreement of collecting stolen money back from those foreign states and UK is one of those.

In India an individual earning $500/month comes in tax bracket. He will have to pay 10% of the income.

 

[agamdilawari]

Not even a beggar in Pakistan avoid tax.
I'm not sure where you have your figures from!
In Pakistan not all people have jobs, and if you do have a job in Pakistan, income tax is charged on as low income as $500/month, still feeding a family of average 5 person.
Give me a comparable example, where tax is charged on as low income as $500/month!

Rich people in Pakistan do not have any business but they earn money due to corruption / extortion... examples are Asif ALi Zardari and Altaf Hussain. Taxing corrupt money means you will patronize corruption.

Despite the fact that Pakistanis pay highest taxes in the world but they get nothing in return, all services are privately paid.. medical is private, education is private, infrastructure development is private, people are mostly self employed.

Anyway, collected tax and extorted money from Pakistan, is already being deposited in foreign banks and Pakistan shall have agreement of collecting stolen money back from those foreign states and UK is one of those.

A person earning as low as 308$/month(INR 16,500) in India has to pay 10% tax on his income in India.

 

[SBD-3]

@for truth

97% Pakistanis don't pat taxes. Our upcoming Fuhrer has paid $250 tax in last many years and paid no tax during exile when his factories were still operating in Pakistan.

According to estimates, if Pakistans black economy is added,the total GDP would be around a trillion dollars.

1- 60% of 97% are too poor to pay any taxes
2-The tax details of all the leaders are available with ECP, interestingly IK's income in 2010 was around 4 Million for tax year which shrank remarkably in subsequent years.
Election Commission of Pakistan
select the consitutency and then select any candidate to see his/her tax returns.
3- Pakistan's total economy was worth 180$ which would have shrunk by around 10% due to PKR devaluation. Furthermore, the upperside estimates (published research papers) put black economy at around 50-60%. Even if we take it at around 60% Pakistan's total economy stands around 300 Billion rather than a trillion USD