UK Air Force Reveals 3D Model of 'Tempest' Fighter Jet, LANCA Unmanned Aircraft

[waz]

I agree - however, the Americans are at another level. They have eclipsed every other nation in aviation.

They dedicate more funds, we have just as much talent.

Check this out;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerospace_industry_in_the_United_Kingdom#1900_to_1909

 

[Agha Sher]

They dedicate more funds, we have just as much talent.

Check this out;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerospace_industry_in_the_United_Kingdom#1900_to_1909

While the UK is talented, I would argue that the talent pool of the US is way bigger, experienced and to some extent better. Their dedicated funds are astronomical and the UK/Europe has no means to match it. They do as well have the best universities and R&D facilities.

Just to give an example. While the US developed the F-22, the best Europe (including the UK) could develop was the Eurofighter. While the Eurofighter is a formidable aircraft, it is nowhere near as capable as the F-22.

In addition, the UK is in a period of cutting defence spendings. Not promising for such an expensive project.

 

[truthseeker2010]

UK Air Force Reveals 3D Model of 'Tempest' Fighter Jet, LANCA Unmanned Aircraft

• Our Bureau
  
• 01:53 PM, July 17, 2020
  
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3D Tempest Effectors (RAF)
The U.K. Royal Air Force (RAF) today revealed the 3D model of its 'Tempest' future fighter jet and details of its LANCA unmanned aircraft on its website.

Since Team Tempest was launched in 2018, we have been working to create the future of combat air. "Today, we are launching our new interactive 3D model where you can explore our vision for the future," the team tweeted today.

Tempest is the RAF's next generation combat aircraft, coming into service from 2035 to replace the Typhoon. Tempest will constantly mine and coordinate data from multiple sources, such as other aircraft, to provide information that can in turn be shared with other aircraft in a ‘combat cloud.'

The website allows visitors to zoom in, zoom out, expand and study the airframe, power source, cockpit, manufacturing process, sensors and effectors of the Tempest jet. In the interactive 3D model, dots observed on different parts of the aircraft details features of the same when clicked.

There are over 1,800 people working as part of Team Tempest. That is expected to grow to more than 2,500 by 2021. Team Tempest is made up of a group of industry partners: BAE Systems, Rolls Royce, Leonardo and MBDA.

Tempest stealth jet's engine
Tempest will bring a ‘plug and play’ approach, where software and hardware can be easily changed in and out depending on the capability and functions needed for a mission. That could be different kinds of weapons, sensors, or fuel tanks.

Tempest will provide several modes of operation, combining manned, unmanned and optionally-manned platforms, with onboard and offboard data processing and a range of pilot decisions aids when manned flight is being conducted. This is called scalable autonomy.

The jet will use advanced composite materials and additive manufacturing to produce lightweight, power dense configurations capable of operating at higher temperatures. “We're also developing world-leading electrical generation technology and intelligent integrated power management to power Tempest's advanced sensors and effects, particularly those which are laser-based. They will need much more electrical power than previous generations of aircraft,” RAF says.

LANCA aircraft
“The Tempest operator will be able to think and act two to three steps ahead of their adversary because of the advanced and highly-integrated sensors, non-kinetic effects, and communications systems. All of these systems will be highly-integrated, and designed to work seamlessly together, unlike current fighter jets that tend to be separate pieces of equipment, such as separate radar and electro-optics,” the Air Force said.

On July 16, BAE Systems said it is teaming up with Williams Advanced Engineering (WAE) to explore how battery management and cooling technologies from the motorsport industry could be exploited to deliver efficiency and performance gains in the design of future combat aircraft.

LANCA Unmanned Combat Air Adjunct System:

According to the RAF, the Lightweight Affordable Novel Combat Aircraft (LANCA) concept looks to offer increased capability, protection, survivability and information when deployed alongside combat aircraft. It could even provide an unmanned combat air ‘fleet’ in the future.

The concept also aims to deliver dramatic reductions in traditional cost and development timelines for combat air systems.
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...ter_Jet__LANCA_Unmanned_Aircraft#.XxaybVVvaUk

World's first 6th gen fighter to move from concept to development phase if i am not wrong.

 

[T-123456]

While the UK is talented, I would argue that the talent pool of the US is way bigger, experienced and to some extent better. Their dedicated funds are astronomical and the UK/Europe has no means to match it. They do as well have the best universities and R&D facilities.

Just to give an example. While the US developed the F-22, the best Europe (including the UK) could develop was the Eurofighter. While the Eurofighter is a formidable aircraft, it is nowhere near as capable as the F-22.

In addition, the UK is in a period of cutting defence spendings. Not promising for such an expensive project.

The UK has every technology it needs to develop cutting edge platforms,dont underestimate the British.

 

[UKBengali]

I highly doubt that the UK + Sweden can produce a fighter superior to the F-22 in the coming decades. The F-22 fighter and its capabilities are so secret that they have an export ban. The F-22 is a tremendously powerful fighter and will continue to be the top dog for a couple of decades.

Tempest will be far far superior to F-22 that came out in 2005.
The Tempest is slated for introduction in 2035 - a whole 30 years later.

You need to remember that the UK is the only country that can match the US in engine tech with Rolls Royce. It also has the most stealth experience after the US as it worked on the F-35 as the only level 1 partner and also built it's own stealth drone. UK radar tech is also just as good as the US with products as the SAMPSON radar(at the time the US itself said it was the best shipborne radar in the world) on the Type-45 destroyer and the AESA radar on both the Gripen and the Eurofighter.

The Tempest is the only fighter that will be able to compete with whatever the US develops, although the USA may still just have the edge due to it's better stealth experience.

 

[waz]

While the UK is talented, I would argue that the talent pool of the US is way bigger, experienced and to some extent better. Their dedicated funds are astronomical and the UK/Europe has no means to match it. They do as well have the best universities and R&D facilities.

Just to give an example. While the US developed the F-22, the best Europe (including the UK) could develop was the Eurofighter. While the Eurofighter is a formidable aircraft, it is nowhere near as capable as the F-22.

In addition, the UK is in a period of cutting defence spendings. Not promising for such an expensive project.

Yep that's where you made an error. The Typhoon is pretty much British, engine, airframe, mechanics and some electronics (others contributed). The UK could have gone down the road by itself, but cost. There's a reason that in the F-35 program, the most important country aside the US in development of the craft is the UK.
The defence cuts relate to current operational requirements, not R & D. I know this well, due to links with BAE.

 

[Agha Sher]

Tempest will be far far superior to F-22 that came out in 2005.
The Tempest is slated for introduction in 2035 - a whole 30 years later.

You need to remember that the UK is the only country that can match the US in engine tech with Rolls Royce. It also has the most stealth experience after the US as it worked on the F-35 as the only level 1 partner and also built it's own stealth drone. UK radar tech is also just as good as the US with products as the SAMPSON radar(at the time the US itself said it was the best shipborne radar in the world) on the Type-45 destroyer and the AESA radar on both the Gripen and the Eurofighter.

The Tempest is the only fighter that will be able to compete with whatever the US develops, although the USA may still just have the edge due to it's better stealth experience.

Time will tell. I highly doubt it.

Yep that's where you made an error. The Typhoon is pretty much British, engine, airframe, mechanics and some electronics (others contributed). The UK could have gone down the road by itself, but cost. There's a reason that in the F-35 program, the most important country aside the US in development of the craft is the UK.
The defence cuts relate to current operational requirements, not R & D. I know this well, due to links with BAE.

That doesn't improve your case. Anyhow, the engine is EuroJet, a European consortium. I do not know about the rest of the aircraft but I doubt that the German did not have a significant development contribution (Despite Eurofighter being based on a UK tech demonstrator).

 

[dani191]

yes they are good

 

[UKBengali]

That doesn't improve your case. Anyhow, the engine is EuroJet, a European consortium. I do not know about the rest of the aircraft but I doubt that the German did not have a significant development contribution (Despite Eurofighter being based on a UK tech demonstrator).

This goes to show you have no idea what you are talking about.

Germany just does not have the engine technology to make any significant contribution to the Eurofighter's engines.

Let me show you a list of the pecking order in engine tech:

1. USA = UK
2. France
3. Russia
4. China
5. Japan
6. Germany


Why on earth would No. 1 UK need any contribution from No. 6 Germany in engine tech???

 

[waz]

That doesn't improve your case. Anyhow, the engine is EuroJet, a European consortium. I do not know about the rest of the aircraft but I doubt that the German did not have a significant development contribution (Despite Eurofighter being based on a UK tech demonstrator).

Erm no it's not. It was completely based off the XG-40 engine from Rolls Royce, you should know that apart from the French, no one in Europe makes engines powering fighter craft.
The German input was much smaller, they're knowledge of the aeronautical industry is limited, they're experts in land vehicles.

 

[Safriz]

Typhoons are getting old and need replacing.
Good to see an ongoing project for that.

 

[Agha Sher]

This goes to show you have no idea what you are talking about.

Germany just does not have the engine technology to make any significant contribution to the Eurofighter's engines.

Let me show you a list of the pecking order in engine tech:

1. USA = UK
2. France
3. Russia
4. China
5. Japan
6. Germany


Why on earth would No. 1 UK need any contribution from No. 6 Germany in engine tech???

Now you just sound like an arrogant Britt.

The UK is not on par with the US in engine tech (RR is falling behind). While EJ200 is based on a RR tech demonstrator, other countries did contribute to its development.

 

[waz]

Typhoons are getting old and need replacing.
Good to see an ongoing project for that.

Still have plenty of time for them. Great planes, and they're arguably the third best air superiority fighter out there, after the F-22 and F-35.

 

[UKBengali]

The UK is not on par with the US in engine tech (RR is falling behind). While EJ200 is based on a RR tech demonstrator, other countries did contribute to its development.

How is RR "falling behind" when even US airlines are more than happy to buy planes with RR engines?

There are 3 top engine manufacturers in the world today in a class of their own - GE(USA), P&W(USA) and RR(UK).

And why do you persist that Germany and the others had anything but a token contribution to the Eurojet engine as the UK is light years ahead of them in engine tech? Most of what they contributed was to get an assembly line, although the Germans were given the job of the FBW system due to worksharing and it took them ages to even get that right due to their lack of experience in modern plane control systems.

Please at least do some basic research before commenting. All you need to do is "Google" and the information will be available.

 

[Agha Sher]

How is RR "falling behind" when even US airlines are more than happy to buy planes with RR engines?

There are 3 top engine manufacturers in the world today in a class of their own - GE(USA), P&W(USA) and RR(UK).

And why do you persist that Germany and the others had anything but a token contribution to the Eurojet engine as the UK is light years ahead of them in engine tech? Most of what they contributed was to get an assembly line, although the Germans were given the job of the FBW system due to worksharing and it took them ages to even get that right due to their lack of experience in modern plane control systems.

Please at least do some basic research before commenting. All you need to do is "Google" and the information will be available.

Try to commercial airline engines on Tempest and we'll see how it performs. We are talking about jet engines for fighters. (The top commercial jet engines are from GE anyways). The jet engines produced by GE & P&W are decades ahead of RR.

As an investor in Aerospace and Defence, I have done my research. Try not to be so arrogant.