UAE, Pakistan and Mirage 2000-9s

[The Eagle]

@Oscar Sir, you are missed.... Your valued feedback is requested here.

 

[Basel]

I can feel there is an anti- China force in Pakistan, hide in the deep. The people are very pro China, but some of the government officers hard to say. I'm a big fans of General Musharaf, always.

people have their opinions but some international forces silently using their puppets to create fear that CPEC is not in favor of Pakistan, also using corrupt people to make it true that CPEC don't get implemented properly and got failed, military is pushing to make CPEC reality in it's true essence.

 

[Khafee]

How much was Indian M2k upgrade contract worth?

You still got it Bro, you still go it

The cost of the upgrade is INR 10,947 crore under which all 48 Mirage 2000 fighters in the IAF arsenal are to be refurbished. When the deal was signed in 2011, IAF had 51 Mirage 2000 in service but at least four have crashed since then.
Updated: April 24, 2015
http://www.news18.com/news/india/ia...age-2000-fighters-land-in-gwalior-983863.html

 

[ziaulislam]

lot of J10c fans here, it seem PAF is not interested. For J10, the best window had past. Can anyone tell me why the J10 order by Musharaff was cancelled? It's like a mystery in China.

PPPP era admin didnt thought defense to be a major priority
later PML N era we were in trouble via IMF, now we are open but PAF thinks why not a newer gen AC instead of J-10
besides all weapon of j-10 can be carried by jf-17
so focusill be on rapid induction of jf-17 and f-16 only if they come easy

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar Sir, you are missed.... Your valued feedback is requested here.

Im intentionally keeping away from stuff I don't see as a plausible avenue

 

[帅的一匹]

people have their opinions but some international forces silently using their puppets to create fear that CPEC is not in favor of Pakistan, also using corrupt people to make it true that CPEC don't get implemented properly and got failed, military is pushing to make CPEC reality in it's true essence.

Bro can you tell me , who kill Benazir Bhutto? Actually Chinese is very intersted in Pakistan domestic affairs, they just shy to ask it because they want keep good relationship of all parties in Pakistan.

 

[Basel]

lot of J10c fans here, it seem PAF is not interested. For J10, the best window had past. Can anyone tell me why the J10 order by Musharaff was cancelled? It's like a mystery in China.

Don't know exactly but the version offered was not better then F-16 block 52+, because latest J-10B was not offered then but customized J10-A. That is why there is still window for J-10 C/D is open if China offered them with better engines. If PAF wants to replace it's Deltas with Deltas then J-10 C/D is better choice then obsolete model of M2K9s.

Bro can you tell me , who kill Benazir Bhutto? Actually Chinese is very intersted in Pakistan domestic affairs, they just shy to ask it because they want keep good relationship of all parties in Pakistan.

Blamed on TTP but can't confirm dear.

 

[Centurion2016]

I will probably get banned

BUT WHY DO YOUR people keep looking to buy secondhand used fighters.

I cant think of any air force in the world that has acquired or attempted to acquire so many used second hand fighters deemed obsolete or no longer relevant to modern war

in the 1990s PAF acquired old mirage 5 and kept them going even up to day

recently you have now started to look at early model F16s

Now uae mirage2000/9 you seem to be front of the line.

Have you ever considered why the likes of Jordan or UAE are looking to replace them ?

 

[aliyusuf]

Bro can you tell me , who kill Benazir Bhutto? Actually Chinese is very intersted in Pakistan domestic affairs, they just shy to ask it because they want keep good relationship of all parties in Pakistan.

There is nothing official and definite ... just theories and narratives put forward by the status quo to hide the actual truth.

So all most of us can provide is our own (individual) take on what had happened. So with that premise I will try to put forward what I think happened (without any intention to derail the thread).

It was put into motion by external forces responsible for the bringing the current status quo elite to the forefront. The last 8 years is a testimony to the systematic dismantling / erosion of the country's institutions and governance machinery. But above all the rampant growth of corruption at almost levels of the society.

These forces utilized an influential and highly placed few to bring this about. The goal was to usher in a series of regimes of yes men who would do their bidding to derail Pakistan so much economically and politically that it would become pliant enough to stir it along the lines that would fit in perfectly to the bigger scheme of things these forces had planned for the future.

Not that Benazir was a saint or anything, but she had caliber and the intellectual wherewithal to stand up to their schemes vis-à-vis Pakistan . At first she seemed to be playing ball with these forces for a while but after maneuvering her return to the country, she started to give voice to her own agenda. This caused these forces to have her eliminated and the Musharraf regime put a lid on the ensuing investigations and washed away the crime scene.

You can draw your own conclusions.

This is my own opinion on the matter and others can disagree.
Since this is off topic I will try not to respond to any further posts on the issue.

Hope you understand.

 

[Raider 21]

Bro can you tell me , who kill Benazir Bhutto? Actually Chinese is very intersted in Pakistan domestic affairs, they just shy to ask it because they want keep good relationship of all parties in Pakistan.

It was the French.....

 

[PK_Patriot]

Bro can you tell me , who kill Benazir Bhutto? Actually Chinese is very intersted in Pakistan domestic affairs, they just shy to ask it because they want keep good relationship of all parties in Pakistan.

First rule to find "who killed" is to check who was beneficial.

1. One was Zardari who become President out of no where and head of PPP .
2. Taliban who took over half part of KPK province in Zardari's era.
3. General Kayani who became COAS and got 3 years of extension after due retirement.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

A bit out dated plane , like F16 A/B models
If it comes , (if) would likely serve may be as a supplimental craft / support or patrol duties etc

Might make some impact when flying in groups with Thunder but certainly a bit outdated now

But provided the plane is maintained well and is armed with perhaps slighlightly newer weapons may serve a purpose but again we could be flying brand new planes

One benefit I do see is perhaps , we can just retire the oldest planes in our inventory while inducting this (Mid age fighter jet which can fly another 11 years)

Retiring planes that have age of 27 years and get planes that are perhaps 10 years old seems like a neutral investment

• Good Stop Gap solution

 

[Centurion2016]

A bit out dated plane , like F16 A/B models
If it comes , (if) would likely serve may be as a supplimental craft / support or patrol duties etc

Might make some impact when flying in groups with Thunder but certainly a bit outdated now

But provided the plane is maintained well and is armed with perhaps slighlightly newer weapons may serve a purpose but again we could be flying brand new planes

One benefit I do see is perhaps , we can just retire the oldest planes in our inventory while inducting this (Mid age fighter jet which can fly another 11 years)

Retiring planes that have age of 25 years and get planes that are perhaps 10 years old seems like a neutral investment

F16A/B & Thunders block 1 & 2 are on paper specs inferior to the UAE Mirage2000/9

The Mirage2000/9 carrys a helmet mounted display which is only available as the JHMC on block 52 in PAF

The mirage2000/9 has far reliable engine with far less down time than the Russian rd93

The UAE fighter carrys the mica bvr which has bigger NEZ and is much harder to jam the the amraamc5 and chinease SD10

The only PAF fighter than can match or exceed the UAE mirages are the 18 block 52IN PAF

 

[khanasifm]

F16A/B & Thunders block 1 & 2 are on paper specs inferior to the UAE Mirage2000/9

The Mirage2000/9 carrys a helmet mounted display which is only available as the JHMC on block 52 in PAF

The mirage2000/9 has far reliable engine with far less down time than the Russian rd93

The UAE fighter carrys the mica bvr which has bigger NEZ and is much harder to jam the the amraamc5 and chinease SD10

The only PAF fighter than can match or exceed the UAE mirages are the 18 block 52IN PAF

With due respect to every one

This is my problem with a number of participants on this forum if you are stating info please state what is your source lots of incorrect statement posted like fact by folks who has ever worked in the industry nor experience of an Air Force

Just because someone is aviation Info reader donot make one an authority to make statement like facts

Perfect example Like above, F16mlu have same avionics and same capability as blk52 except structural and engine, gross weight Cft etc

I am making this this statement base on .... ...



With due respect

 

[Centurion2016]

With due respect to every one

This is my problem with a number of participants on this forum if you are stating info please state what is your source lots of incorrect statement posted like fact by folks who has ever worked in the industry nor experience of an Air Force

Just because someone is aviation Info reader donot make one an authority to make statement like facts

Perfect example Like above, F16mlu have same avionics and same capability as blk52 except structural and engine, gross weight Cft etc

I am making this this statement base on .... ...



With due respect

with due respect

F16MLU is different to block 52 IN 3 CRUCIAL ASPECTS

Engine on Block 52 is more powerful
Different airframe designed for multi role capabilities not dog fighting
Completely different radar ie V68(9) V V66 on the MLU F16

A MLU gives an older F16 marginally improved BVR performance BUT IT IS FAR INFERIOR to a block 52


PLEASE SEE

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article9.html