U.S. warns Turkey over offshore drilling near Cyprus

[Nein]

Then you ain't see anything yet for anti turkey threads, we are very refrained already, we don't prod Turkey if not being poked again and again. why the hell should we care about turkey, all our attention is on our east, not the west.


Uighurs are Chinese, there are 100 million overseas Chinese around the world and if China talks about them as Chinese citizens China will upset every single country on the planet. of course we'll never do something that stupid.

Nationality wise they are Chinese. Ethnically they are not Chinese.

Ethnic Chinese are basically the Han.

We post the government statements and news here, of course you can have your personal opinion that Xinjiang is invaded land and I can have mine that Turkey should give half of the land to Kurdistan.

Turkey can advocate Xinjiang's independence in UN and China can do the same about Kurdistan in UNSC, let's see how will they end up like. At least Xinjiang is peaceful and stable, I wouldn't say the same about Turkish occupied Kurdistan.

Turkish occupied Kurdistan hahahaha there was never a Kurdistan. Only geographical terms nothing else.

So called land inhabited by the Kurds was ruled by various empires and kingdoms. Also the land inhabited by the Kurds were ruled by various Turkish beyliks.

Ottomans allowed the Kurds to come to modern day Turkey to form a buffer zone against the Safavid Empire.

Read up some history.

 

[beijingwalker]

Nationality wise they are Chinese. Ethnically they are not Chinese.

Ethnic Chinese are basically the Han.

That's true in every country, does Turkey have just one ethnicity? Is it ok for other countries interfere with Turkey's internal affairs claiming that they have their people living in Turkey?

Turkish occupied Kurdistan hahahaha there was never a Kurdistan. Only geographical terms nothing else.

So called land inhabited by the Kurds was ruled by various empires and kingdoms. Also the land inhabited by the Kurds were ruled by various Turkish beyliks.

Ottomans allowed the Kurds to come to modern day Turkey to form a buffer zone against the Safavid Empire.

Read up some history.

Since some of you guys believe Xinjiang is a invaded land, of course others can believe Turkey is a invaded land, Turks were not from today's Turkey in the history anyway.

 

[damm1t]

We post the government statements and news here, of course you can have your personal opinion that Xinjiang is invaded land and I can have mine that Turkey should give half of the land to Kurdistan.

Turkey can advocate Xinjiang's independence in UN and China can do the same about Kurdistan in UNSC, let's see how will they end up like. At least Xinjiang is peaceful and stable, I wouldn't say the same about Turkish occupied Kurdistan.

Turkey never ever said East Turkistan to be independent or supports it to be. We just want the etcnic Uyghurs live in peace without pressure on them. East Turkistan is an autonom state, but in Turkey we don't have a region named "Kurdistan" or smt. It's a land of Turks almost for 1000 years. Unlike China, Turkey gives equal rights to its citizens and make no pressure. Kurdish citizens have vote/to be voted right. They have a political party. There were Kurdish generals, ministers and even PM and President ( Turgut Özal ) in this country. They live in peave in Eastern Turkey. PKK doesn't represent Kurdish citizens of Turkey. Recently there are huge rallies and protests in Kurdish populated cities against PKK/HDP. This is the fact.

 

[beijingwalker]

Turkey never ever said East Turkistan to be independent or supports it to be.

You just said Xinjiang is invaded lands minutes ago.

 

[damm1t]

Since some of you guys believe Xinjiang is a invaded land, of course others can believe Turkey is a invaded land, Turks were not from today's Turkey in the history anyway.

You called Turkic people Chinese. So I explained that how possible they could be called Chinese.

 

[beijingwalker]

East Turkistan is an autonom state, but in Turkey we don't have a region named "Kurdistan" or smt. .

In China we don't have a place called eastern turkistan

 

[damm1t]

You just said Xinjiang is invaded lands minutes ago.

Saying invaded and supporting for indepence are different things.

In China we don't have a place called eastern turkistan

you can rename it as you want. But in the world there is an east Turkistan

 

[beijingwalker]

Saying invaded and supporting for indepence are different things.

So I can say the same about the lands where your minorities live, fair enough.

you can rename it as you want. But in the world there is an east Turkistan

you can rename it as you want. But in the world there is Kurdistan.

 

[Nein]

That's true in every country, does Turkey have just one ethnicity? Is it ok for other countries interfere with Turkey's internal affairs claiming that they have their people living in Turkey?



Since some of you guys believe Xinjiang is a invaded land, of course others can believe Turkey is a invaded land, Turks were not from today's Turkey in the history anyway.

Turks took Anatolia from the Eastern Roman Empire so please give me a historical reference that the Turks took Kurdish land when anatolia was mainly ruled by the Eastern Roman Empire aka the Byzantine Empire. And in Eastern Turkey you had Arabs and Armenians ruling various parts of the region.

Turks took land ruled by another Empire.

Anatolia today is now called Turkey which comes from the Latin word, Turchia which means land of the Turks.

So keep on repeating myths that the Seljuk Turks invaded the Kurds when in reality they invaded the Eastern Roman Empire.

By the way the Byzantines have themselves to blame for this the original Seljuk target for conquest was Egypt as they were at war with the Fatimid Caliphate but the Byzantines attacked the Seljuk Turks first as they believed their growing power was threatening the empire itself.

 

[beijingwalker]

Turks took Anatolia from the Eastern Roman Empire so please give me a historical reference that the Turks took Kurdish land when anatolia was mainly ruled by the Eastern Roman Empire aka the Byzantine Empire. And in Eastern Turkey you had Arabs and Armenians ruling various parts of the region.

Turks took land ruled by another Empire.

Anatolia today is now called Turkey which comes from the Latin word, Turchia which means land of the Turks.

So keep on repeating myths that the Seljuk Turks invaded the Kurds when in reality they invaded the Eastern Roman Empire.

By the way the Byzantines have themselves to blame for this the original Seljuk target for conquest was Egypt as they were at war with the Fatimid Caliphate but the Byzantines attacked the Seljuk Turks first as they believed their growing power was threatening the empire itself.

Xinjiang first became part of China long before Turks were even formed as a people, so history can be told from different perspectives, you call Xinjiang invaded land, Turks were invaders indeed.

 

[Nein]

Xinjiang first became part of China long before Turks were even formed as a people, so history can be told from different perspectives, you call Xinjiang invaded land, Turks were invaders indeed.

Xinjiang was inhabited by the Tocharians who were not Chinese themselves. You took over the land just like everybody else.

Chinese have not ruled xinjiang for a long time until the qing dynasty came and took over.

You were invaders too easy to call the Turks as invaders when they werent the only ones to invade and conquer.

 

[Ansu fati]

Uighurs are Chinese, there are 100 million overseas Chinese around the world and if China talks about them as Chinese citizens China will upset every single country on the planet. of course we'll never do something that stupid.

Yea they are chinese citizens but they are central asian turkic people by ethnicity
NATIONALITY≠ETHNICITY

 

[925boy]

Truth will come out, Biden said 1 billion Uighurs were held just yesterday. You guys can post, why I can't? what were you complaining about?

Even though Biden said "a billion Uighurs", that was not his point, and we all know what his point is, including you.

 

[beijingwalker]

Xinjiang was inhabited by the Tocharians who were not Chinese themselves. You took over the land just like everybody else.

That part of China had conquerers come and go constantly throughout the history, China first rule todays Xinjiang over 2000 years ago, since then this region always has closely connected with China and we had all local history document of it lasting for thousands of years already, if for you turks if you like to know your early history, you have to get the information from those old Chinese documents.If you call China invaders, Turkey will be more so.

Yea they are chinese citizens but they are central asian turkic people by ethnicity
NATIONALITY≠ETHNICITY

I said they are Chinese, and they are. as long as you don't argue that, I'll be fine, I never said they are Han Chinese, Chinese include 56 ethnic groups. And they are taken care by China and within Chinese jurisdiction so whatever China does there is Chinese internal business.

Even though Biden said "a billion Uighurs", that was not his point, and we all know what his point is, including you.

His point is lying through his teeth, we of course always know that, it's not first time the did that, Tibet, Falungong, Christian... the list goes on.

 

[Itachi]

weren't you recently warned by @WebMaster

You were also recently warned by @WebMaster

Do you not learn from your mistakes?

Yup they were all warned. Beast is banned again too lol

It really makes you think if they even know what a warning is or if they think they don't have to follow forum rules.