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U.S. Threatens Egypt With Sanctions Over Russian Arms Deal

Well s-400 threaten f-35 so hence turkey get sanctioned.
It seams Su-35 also threaten patriot so Egypt also get sanctioned if proceed with the deal.

I wonder why US seems so threatened with these old Russian designs .

There is also an the issue you get a lot of intelligence if you do air to air combat with different planes.

In the 60th , Israel managed to get a Mig21 , that was than considered the top Soviet fighter. The information from real air training duels with this Mig21 changed the whole air combat tactics.

It was discovered that the Mig21 was excellent at maneuvers at low speed but was slow to turn in high speed. Israeli pilots where instructed to engage them at high speed.


you can read about it here :

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Munir Redfa's MiG-21, the subject of Operation Diamond, at the Israeli Air Force Museum in Hatzerim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Diamond
 
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America should not threaten Egypt Simply based on what’s buried under the Giza plateau.

America will need Egypt’s help to fully utilize the gate.

no problem for the US
The US easly can find a new lovely dictator in Egypt instead of SISI to work for American-Israeli interests
the US and S.Arabia supported SISI to make military coup in Egypt

btw in 2018 The US gave $1 billion military aid to Egypt
 
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US will sanction Egypt too if they buys JF-17. Cos its not america or NATO.

Is that your speculation or is this part of an agreement between Egypt and the West?

JF-17 is a Russian-Chinese-Pakistani co-production, buying it will have same or even worse consequences! what do you think is the reason Pakistan keeps failing to sell it to anyone other than the Burmese?

Bharat will be a front-line defense against China in not so distant a future thus it will be allowed to do anything or buy anything until then
loss of profits

The expected Chinese engine for the JF-17 will soon be available, so the Russian factor will be eliminated.

Also as part of the trade deal/war with the US, China can really push back on any sanctions on its arms deals. Arms sales can be a significant part of China’s economic diversification. It’s not that easy they would allow the US to undermine their business prospects with out resistance.

Furthermore, European sub-systems on the JF-17 will allow Western companies to get a share of the action, so its win win.

Egypt shouldn’t only be seen in the context of its relations vis a vi Israel, but Egypt as a friendly nation on an at times unstable African continent. The JF-17 should been seen As a sustainable platform for supporting Egyptian COIN missions and defending against threats in places like Libya. Air to ground mostly, with the need for dominance in air to air against other African Air forces. That is the way Nigeria will use them, and this is the way Egypt should be thought of if they acquire the JF-17.
 
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Egyptian F-16s cant fire AMRAAMs infact US has sold none to Egypt. Now US doesnt want Egypt to buy SU-35s. Seems like US is speaking for its pony Israel so it remains the dominant air power in the region. On the other hand Egypt is so naive, it is busy opposing Turkey at every possible opportunity it gets. Such a tyranny of times when u cant figure out the difference between your enemies and friends!

This is what I was arguing about in the other thread about Middle East politics and short sightedness
 
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America should not threaten Egypt Simply based on what’s buried under the Giza plateau.

America will need Egypt’s help to fully utilize the gate.

Love the Stargate reference, that was a great tv show.
 
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Would Pakistan seriously sell it’s Jf17 to Ethiopia if they wanted it. They to will need airforce to counter it’s threat from the Nile ?
 
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Well s-400 threaten f-35 so hence turkey get sanctioned.
It seams Su-35 also threaten patriot so Egypt also get sanctioned if proceed with the deal.

I wonder why US seems so threatened with these old Russian designs .
Egypt is buying mig 35

Well s-400 threaten f-35 so hence turkey get sanctioned.
It seams Su-35 also threaten patriot so Egypt also get sanctioned if proceed with the deal.

I wonder why US seems so threatened with these old Russian designs .
Egypt is buying mig 35

Considering the Egyptians need 50 planes, and will get sanctioned if they buy Russian, it would seem logical for Pakistan to remind the Egyptians that the Block 3 will soon be available. Also for $40 million per plane, the JF-17 can be acquired with all the bell and whistles and customized with European sub-systems to match the Rafales the Egyptians already operate, akin to the Gripen, but without the risk of Sanctions.
America is killing it's own industry by creating a forceful monopoly
 
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Because India does not need USA more than USA needs India. India hardly has any strategic weapons from USA and except for semiconductor, does not need USA at all. USA needs to sell weapons to India to reduce its trade deficit with India. If USA sanctions India, then USA will be harming its own trade balance.


Egypt does not have food. It has 10 crore population but produces food enough for only 3 crore. this means it has to import food for 70% of its population. Last time Muhammad Morsi had risen to Egypt's power but USA & GCC immediately cut foreign aid and investment to Egypt, causing severe foreign exchange reduction and difficulty in importing food. This food threat was the main reason why Morsi was overthrown and Sisi was placed as leader. So, Egypt will behave like a slave of GCC who control its finances and act according to the will of GCC's plan. Getting imported food is the priority of Egypt and everything else is secondary.


The extent of sanctions will depend on GCC countries. USA can't sanction the economy of any country without approval of GCC. GCC has to approve any dollar sanctions as according to petrodollar, dollar is also the currency of GCC countries and hence GCC has to approve of any sanctions. So, unless GCC agrees to put sanctions on Egyptian economy, USA can't sanction Egypt beyond sanctioning its military. For example, GCC did not approve of sanctions on Venezuela and hence Venezuela is not subject to economic sanctions like Iran. USA has only prohibited companies who are within USA to deal with Venezuela but there is no multilayered sanctions like Iran and non USA companies can still trade with Venezuela.



mighty india should build toilets for the mighty indian people first....
 
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Basically, anything that can challenge Israel's military superiority isn't allowed. And if Egypt doesn't heed their call, Uncle Sam will call the Gulf Arabs to suspend all financial aid to Egypt. Egypt has tough choices to make here.
 
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Egypt firstly ordered 20 F-35s in 2018 the deal approved by Trump but stopped then via other US officials.

Then as US cannot provide Egypt with F-35 then the later signed a deal with Russia for 24 SU-35.

Fair enough.
 
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Egypt firstly ordered 20 F-35s in 2018 the deal approved by Trump but stopped then via other US officials.

Then as US cannot provide Egypt with F-35 then the later signed a deal with Russia for 24 SU-35.

Fair enough.

Egypt should get F 35’s imho
 
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