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U.S. may sanction Pakistani officials with ties to terrorists, NSC spokesman says

By LOUIS NELSON

Updated 08/22/2017 11:50 AM EDT

President Donald Trump’s new, get-tough approach with Pakistan’s government could potentially include sanctioning Pakistani government officials with ties to terrorist organizations, National Security Council spokesman Michael Anton said Tuesday morning, part of an overall regional strategy that he said has put Pakistan “on notice” that “business as usual as it has been up to now is over.”

Trump, in nationally televised address Monday night, announced that he would deploy a yet-unspecified number of additional troops to Afghanistan, bolstering the Afghan military in its fight against the Taliban. Those troops are part of a fresh regional approach, Anton said on a conference call with reporters Tuesday, that also includes demanding more from the Pakistani government when it comes to combating terrorist groups.


“I think the important takeaway for the Pakistani government last night is that, you know, they should understand that they’re on notice from this president, from this administration,” Anton said. “The United States has been really patient with Pakistan for a really long time. We haven’t been getting a good deal from them.”

As part of the new strategy, Anton said the U.S. could conceivably impose sanctions on terrorist groups including the Haqqaninetwork, which has links to elements in the Pakistani government, as well as on any Pakistani officials “who are tied to these kinds of groups, you know, in ways that they shouldn’t be.”

That the president’s announced strategy was devoid of specifics regarding the exact number of troops set to be deployed or a timetable for that deployment was by design, multiple officials from his administration said Monday. Such decisions will be made based on “conditions on the ground,” Vice President Mike Pence told NBC’s “Today” show Tuesday morning, a departure from Obama-era strategy that the vice president said wound up “literally emboldening the enemies.”

“In the past, it’s always been time based on when we were going to get out, or based on the number of troops or based on all kinds of things. Now it’s results based, and that works,” U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said Tuesday morning on CNN’s “New Day.” “It works when the president speaks up and says this is what we’re going to do, we’re going to stomp out terrorism and he follows through with it.”


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Trump was transparent in his remarks that his inclination had been to withdraw the U.S. from its long-running conflict in Afghanistan, a war he characterized on the campaign trail as a waste of money, but “decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the Oval Office.” His willingness to further commit the U.S. to a war he so publicly opposed as a candidate was seen by some as an about-face, a notion that Anton pushed back against with reporters on Tuesday.

Trump “didn’t run as a pacifist and he didn’t run as an isolationist,” the spokesman said, nor did he “say America was going to cut and run out of every theater of war where we’re fighting.” Instead, Anton insisted, the president promised a smarter, more focused use of the U.S. military and an end to nation-building policies.

“This is consistent with the president’s campaign promises and themes from 2016. I think there’s an impulse among some to try to paint this as a departure, as a break,” Anton said of Trump’s Monday night announcement. “This idea that there’s some, you know, huge gap between what he promised and what he talked about in 2016 and what he laid out last night, I personally don’t see it. I was involved in the strategy development all throughout this process, never saw it.

The Pakistani government has been an uneasy ally of the U.S. in the years following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, cooperating with American military operations in Afghanistan while at times falling short of U.S. government expectations. The U.S. gives the Pakistani government substantial security aid, Anton noted, and in return receive, at best, “indifference to border crossing and terrorist safe havens and sanctuaries” in Pakistan’s tribal regions along the Afghan border. “In the worst case,” Anton said, the Pakistani government has been guilty of “active direct support” for terrorist groups.

While cooperation between the U.S. and Pakistan was relatively strong in the years immediately following the Sept. 11 attacks, issues of trust surrounding U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan and the discovery of terrorist Osama bin Laden in a Pakistani city that also hosts the Pakistan Military Academy have created fissures in the relationship.

Of particular worry to Pakistan has been the involvement of India, a fierce regional rival, in Afghanistan, a concern that Anton characterized as an “excuse” on the part of the Pakistanis.

“What India is doing in Afghanistan is not a threat to Pakistan. They’re not building military bases. They’re not deploying troops,” Anton said. “They’re not doing the things that would constitute encirclement, for lack of a better term, which is one of the things that the Pakistanis complain about.”

Anton said the president had benefited from an outsider’s perspective on the U.S.-Pakistan relationship, eschewing the conventional wisdom that “however much the Pakistanis double-deal you and lie to you and don’t cooperate, you have no choice but to just keep the status quo.” The NSC spokesman put the onus on the Pakistani government to repair its relationship with the U.S.

“How do we get the Pakistan to behave better? The answer is we have leverage points over Pakistan that the strategy contemplates we will use. Ultimately whether they behave better or not is completely up to them,” Anton said.

“They may calculate that it’s more important to, you know, remain allied with terrorists, it’s more important to give terrorists safe haven, it’s more important to do all the nasty things that they’ve been doing that we don’t like than it is to have a good relationship with the United States,” he continued. “If so, that’s a choice that they will make and then we will make choices based on their choice.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/22/trump-afghanistan-strategy-impact-details-241898
 
Oh shut up, Worry about your naxal terrorists tearing apart India first, idiot.

sanctions won't work this time.

They sanctioned us when we tested nuclear weapons. We survived.

You should ignore troll filth from across the border. They are junkies. They need their fix. Very similar to the op.

As for the thread. US won't sanction pakistan. It don't work as US needs Pakistan cooperation for its military in Afghanistan but it can get tough. CSF most likely will be effected.

Sanctions are heavy doubt.

Fact is that US needs a scapegoat of the extremely deteriorating situation of Afghanistan and we are that. Its apparently our fault that ANA has mass defections, infiltrations, completely failure to hold districts and are involved in corruption and infighting.
 
You should ignore troll filth from across the border. They are junkies. They need their fix. Very similar to the op.

As for the thread. US won't sanction pakistan. It don't work as US needs Pakistan cooperation for its military in Afghanistan but it can get tough. CSF most likely will be effected.

Sanctions are heavy doubt.

Fact is that US needs a scapegoat of the extremely deteriorating situation of Afghanistan and we are that. Its apparently our fault that ANA has mass defections, infiltrations, completely failure to hold districts and are involved in corruption and infighting.
So true.

Lets see what happens.

USA needs a scapegoat.
 
Attempt to isolate Pakistan will complicate the situation:Sherry
Sherry-Rehman_11.jpg


Responding to President Trump’s policy announcement on Afghanistan, PPP VP Senator Sherry Rehman on Tuesday said that it is both disturbing and disappointing to hear a repeat of Pakistan being pressured to do more to stabilise Afghanistan.

“After years of shouldering the heavy lift in Afghanistan and suffering the blowback of an earlier transformational war thirty years ago, Pakistan should not have had to hear recrimination as a non-NATO ally that has given unparalleled sacrifices, resources and national trauma to fight a joint battle against terrorism on Afghan border. There is a little mention of the cost Pakistan has incurred or the successes it continues to achieve in clearing terrorism from the region,” she stated.

“Attempt to isolate and unjustly treatment with Pakistan will only complicate the problem and lead to a dangerous sharpening of strategic fault lines,” observed Senator Rehman. “It will obviously be counterproductive for announced US goals to stabilise the region in cooperation with Afghanistan’s neighbours. Furthermore, it may redefine the notion of blowback.”

“As this new American policy beats the dead horse of Pakistani subversion in Afghanistan, it will surely be seen as unfair, and perhaps even an expedient cover for inconvenient truths: that Afghanistan has been a colossal failure of American imagination, objectives and power projection in the region,” she said.

“This policy and narrative continues to sequester Pakistan as a sole harbour for terror when its military and civilians give their lives fighting for space against violent extremism,” she emphasized. “This ostensible new policy is a reflection of the ongoing confusion in the American policy establishment on how to achieve its own constantly shifting and changing goal posts,” said Rehman

Senior PPP leader and former interior minister Senator Rehman Malik also expressed strong reservations over US President Donald Trump’ statement in which he has lambasted Pakistan.

Senator Malik said that such irresponsible threatening statement from none other than US President Donald Trump will harm our efforts and fight against terrorism. He said he, as the interior minister of Pakistan in 2012, had proposed to United States of America to formulate a common counter strategy against the common enemy -terrorists, adding that he had proposed it in a meeting with Secretary State Condoleezza Rice and later in meeting with Marc Grossman US Special Secretary to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Unfortunately US couldn’t give a common counterterrorism strategy and now to hide its own failure in Afghanistan, it was blaming Pakistan, he said.

He asked the US president that who turned Afghanistan into a war zone and a threat to the region and world’s peace, certainly Trump knew making of Taliban, Al-Qaeda and then ISIS. ‘Everyone knows that war between US and Soviet Union converted Afghanistan into a war zone and hotbed for terrorists’, he added.

Senator Rehman Malik said that now it was Pakistan’s turn to ask USA to ‘do more’ as Afghan soil was being used for terrorist acts inside Pakistan. He said that Indian agency RAW was abetting and financing terrorists in Afghanistan to operate inside Pakistan yet US was siding with India against Pakistan.

He said that Pakistan’s PM should immediately call an All Parties Conference on the recent anti-Pakistan statement of President Donald Trump to formulate the counterterrorism strategy meanwhile he added that it was time for parliament to play its role too.

He said that the present government has failed in lobbying for Pakistan in US while on the other hand Indian lobby was working effectively against Pakistan. ‘As a nation we need unity against the internal and external threats to our motherland’, he advised.
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...pakistan-will-complicate-the-situationsherry/


Pakistan responded to Donald Trump in a matter of minutes.
 
Well the government itself is involved in economic terrorism.

I think they should all be put behind bars since they have failed in combating terrorism for the past 16 years.

National action plan is in danger.


Sack the government through judicial inquiry.


#GovernmentRejected
 
Nawaz Sharee with his close ties to the most vile evil terrorist in Asia, the very own Narinder Modi, the butcherer of Gujurat.
 
It should be other way around, Pakistan and other countries should be put sanction on US officials for creation of ISIS, propping them and supplying them with arms.

Afghanistan is ripe for proxy war

Russia has hinted in the past that the United States is covertly sponsoring the Islamic State in Afghanistan. On Thursday, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson raised the bar by alleging that “foreign fighters” who were transferred by “unknown helicopters” have perpetrated a massacre of Hazara Shias in the Sar-e-Pol province in northern Afghanistan. The spokesperson said:
  • We can see attempts to stir up ethnic conflict in the country… Cases of unidentified helicopter flights to territory controlled by extremists in other northern provinces of Afghanistan are also recorded. For example, there is evidence that on August 8, four helicopters made flights from the airbase of the Afghan National Army’s 209th corps in Mazar-i-Sharif to the area captured by the militants in the Aqcha district of the Jowzjan province. It is noteworthy that witnesses of these flights began to fall off the radar of law enforcement agencies. It seems that the command of the NATO forces controlling the Afghan sky stubbornly refuses to notice these incidents.
From the above, it appears that sections of the Afghan armed forces and the NATO command (which controls Afghan air space) are hand in glove in these covert operations. No doubt, this is a very serious allegation. The attack on the Hazara Shias must be taken as a message intended for Tehran. Historically and culturally, Iran has affinities with the Hazara Shia community in Afghanistan. Possibly, the Trump administration, which has vowed to overthrow the Iranian regime, is opening a ‘second front’ by the IS against Iran from the east.
Interestingly, Russian Foreign Ministry also issued a statement on Friday on the alarming drug situation in Afghanistan. It pointed out that:
  • A sharp increase in drug production is expected in Afghanistan this year and one-third of the country’s population is now involved in cultivation of opium poppy.
  • The geography of the Afghan drug trafficking has expanded and now reaches African continent.
  • Tonnes of chemicals for processing narcotics are illegally imported into Afghanistan – with Italy, France and Netherlands “among main suppliers”.
  • The US and NATO are either unwilling or incapable of curbing the illegal activity.
Russia and Iran cannot turn a blind eye to the hostile activities by the US (and NATO) in their backyard, transforming the anti-Taliban war into a proxy war. They cannot but view the Afghan conflict through the prism of their deepening tensions with the US.
What are Russia’s options? The Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said at a meeting with the top brass in Moscow on August 18 that the Afghan conflict poses a threat to Central Asia’s stability. He said that Russia plans to hold joint military exercises later this year with Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. Russia has military bases in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

Again, Ambassador Zamir Kabulov, Russian presidential envoy to Afghanistan, said recently that if the Afghan government and the US are unable to counter the IS threat, Russia will resort to military force. Kabulov disclosed that Russia has raised in the UN Security Council the air dropping of supplies for the IS fighters in at least three provinces in northern Afghanistan by unidentified aircraft.
Of course, it is inconceivable that Russia will put “boots on the ground” in Afghanistan. But if the IS breaches the borders of the Central Asian states, it becomes the “red line”, Russia will hit back.


Russia is reinforcing its bases in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Significantly, in a joint military exercise with Tajikistan in July, Russia tested its Iskander-M short-range ballistic missiles, one of the most advanced weapons in the Russian arsenal, with a range of 500 kilometers and a payload of 700 kg. Iskander is equipped with terminal guidance systems with the capability to overcome missile defences. Iskander’s accuracy could be better than 10 meters. (Russia has deployed the deadly weapon to Syria.)
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http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/08/20/afghanistan-is-ripe-for-proxy-war/
 
US is getting isolated in Asia, due to Trump policy one by one US will lose all its allies. First Turkey ..... China and Russia is taking full advantage of this situation .
 
Attempt to isolate Pakistan will complicate the situation:Sherry
Sherry-Rehman_11.jpg


Responding to President Trump’s policy announcement on Afghanistan, PPP VP Senator Sherry Rehman on Tuesday said that it is both disturbing and disappointing to hear a repeat of Pakistan being pressured to do more to stabilise Afghanistan.
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...pakistan-will-complicate-the-situationsherry/


Pakistan responded to Donald Trump in a matter of minutes.

Problem with this type of scripted response is that it lacks sharpness and specific facts about
  • US propping terror using TTP, ISIS, BLA proxies (just name a few)
  • CIA running drug business in Afghanistan
  • US allowing india to operate terror operation using Afghanistan
 
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I was watching a Pakistani talkshow where the ISPR general did say that both the CENTCOM visitors and the American senators were offered to choose time and location of their choice to go instantly &verify American allegations of Pakistan running safe heavens and training facilities. (a statement in latest Power play show in ARY).

not sure why Americans didn't take up that offer . it is a very bold offer (or a claim in case someone chooses to deny it).
they should take the offer just in case its a bluff. Pakistanis cant just erase the traces of a camp or hideout in a short time. so even if ISPR is lying .. the USA can take it

I think ISPR has a very good opportunity at its hand.. it should invite CNN and FOX news correspondents in Pakistan and offer them to take them instantly to any place via helicopter if they can get the details from American Administration about alleged training centers or safe heavens anywhere in Pakistan's settled areas or along the tribal belt.
our Media is very bold and independent and is willing to put this claim and argument to rest.

Americans claim about Quetta shura and other safe heavens inside the settled areas of Pakistan (in addition to tribal areas). just share the locations with them and they can raid those places and provide live feed.
the least we can expect is that those alleged camps/ safe heavens will be abandoned and their occupants will flee and we can continue the exercise , never giving them a place to rest.

that aside, Americans have been deploying drones for over a decade in the tribal areas and I wonder why they have missed those so called safe heavens

if they are only targeting marriage ceremonies and normal trial people (just like they do time and again inside Afghanistan out of habit or constant mistakes) then there is a problem with drones operators .. not with Pakistan
 
I was watching a Pakistani talkshow where the ISPR general did say that both the CENTCOM visitors and the American senators were offered to choose time and location of their choice to go instantly &verify American allegations of Pakistan running safe heavens and training facilities. (a statement in latest Power play show in ARY).

not sure why Americans didn't take up that offer . it is a very bold offer (or a claim in case someone chooses to deny it).
they should take the offer just in case its a bluff. Pakistanis cant just erase the traces of a camp or hideout in a short time. so even if ISPR is lying .. the USA can take it

I think ISPR has a very good opportunity at its hand.. it should invite CNN and FOX news correspondents in

Utterly pointless and not worthy effort BECAUSE US intention is to use lie, propaganda and rhetoric to browbeat Pakistan into submission. US goal is not eliminating terrorism BUT using terror and propaganda against Pakistan to stall Pakistan becoming critical point for OBR and Eurasian integration. No amount of proofs and good deeds by Pakistan will be matter. So, anyone trying to satisfy US, is just helping US advance its browbeating plan.
 
Utterly pointless and not worthy effort BECAUSE US intention is to use lie, propaganda and rhetoric to browbeat Pakistan into submission. US goal is not eliminating terrorism BUT using terror and propaganda against Pakistan to stall Pakistan becoming critical point for OBR and Eurasian integration. No amount of proofs and good deeds by Pakistan will be matter. So, anyone trying to satisfy US, is just helping US advance its browbeating plan.
I am not talking about satisfying, I am talking about communicating Pakistani position effectively . its a propaganda war then so be it. we also convey for the sake of argument and for others to hear and at least it can be used in the arguments.
 
Inshallah you will survive this time too. You have Imran khan now. Tilismi kuwwat of allah, exonomic support of china and moral and political swag of Imran khan.. who can beat them... good luck from me
Atleast it's better than taking sweets from Nangey pandit and ring bells in front of statue and ask for solutions and say" Haye Yeh kia hogaya" lol.
 
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