U.S. bans American companies from selling to Chinese phone maker ZTE

[Viva_Viet]

You mean you beat the US as it was throwing agent orange, casually sending your millions of your people to a better place, i.e. heaven or hell, than Vietnam, and burning your forest? Man you guys really gave the US a beating; they didn’t even expect it to be that easy.


Is that what you want to see? Then I don’t feel bad for you guys anymore, no one will. When China plunders resources in Vietnam and leaving you guys with no future, you can blame yourselves. But why do you guys need a future when you can just suck up to the US, who killed millions of your people?

blah blah...I just wanna see how u guys tell your student when US slaughtered PLA easily in TW conflict and how come usless PLA can help CN win Trump now while slaughtering PLA is too easy for US troop ??

No single US troop die while PLA were slaughtered completely and surrender TW to US and Cn teacher @TaiShang still try to fool his student that CN is winning over US now

 

[Viet]

Now you fucking troll @Viet should show us your German daddy has 100+ technologies and your American daddy has 1000+ technologies with such level! Otherwise, you just go home and suck your daddies' dicks.

Can’t you stop obscene language and stay on topic? The pictures you posted look impressive but nobody outside China knows if all of things made in China are real or not.

There are report about German frigate having technical issue, news on problems with F35 US fighter jet, but never news nor reports of problems with Chinese frigate or fighter as if Chinese are the most perfect error-free people on earth.

How do we know those things are real? Do you allow Vietnamese to visit the factories?

 

[Kai Liu]

How do we know those things are real? Do you allow Vietnamese to visit the factories?

Sorry, poor Vietnamese are not allowed. Only your masters could.

 

[UserUnknown2025]

blah blah...I just wanna see how u guys tell your student when US slaughtered PLA easily in TW conflict and how come usless PLA can help CN win Trump now while slaughtering PLA is too easy for US troop ??

No single US troop die while PLA were slaughtered completely and surrender TW to US and Cn teacher @TaiShang still try to fool his student that CN is winning over US now

I wanna see how YOU will tell your kids how Vietnam got wrecked by China and had most of its resources taken away.

 

[Jlaw]

What do u tell to your student when US slaughtered Vietnamese and raped your women during the war?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

Viet will tell their students Viet girls love them long time

arguing with Viva_Viet is like competing in special olympic

 

[jhungary]

Why are they using American chips in the first place?

ZTE uses American Chips (IC, SOC), patented technology (Wifi, Bluetooth) and most important of all, android operating system...You can replace IC and SOC, both are readily available from China, other patent tech too, a bit harder but doable. OS on their mobile phone on the other hand, is extremely hard to replace. There are a few OS in this world, 2 of them account for 95% of usage, that's android and iOS, both of which licenses in America.

 

[somsak]

ZTE uses American Chips (IC, SOC), patented technology (Wifi, Bluetooth) and most important of all, android operating system...You can replace IC and SOC, both are readily available from China, other patent tech too, a bit harder but doable. OS on their mobile phone on the other hand, is extremely hard to replace. There are a few OS in this world, 2 of them account for 95% of usage, that's android and iOS, both of which licenses in America.

Thank you jhungary for bringing back the conversation to the topic. Are these Wi-Fi chips, Radio chips all American company?

Android OS is Amazing. To write an OS is easy job. To write an amazing OS is a bit difficult but doable. To win a market share for an OS is extremely difficult.

 

[艹艹艹]

Americans are beginning to feel less confident. They are beginning to fear that China will overtake them.

 

[Jlaw]

Americans are beginning to feel less confident. They are beginning to fear that China will overtake them.

It's not about that. America is stopping the advancement of China now before it's too late. I think it's a good move by them.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It's not about that. America is stopping the advancement of China now before it's too late. I think it's a good move by them.

ZTE is extremely pro-US, since most Chinese companies are developing their own chips, while they decided to keep relying on the American chips.

Now let ZTE going broke, we need more patriotic firms like Huawei, and the demise ZTE will be forever served as a valuable for the Chinese corporations.

 

[艹艹艹]

It's not about that. America is stopping the advancement of China now before it's too late. I think it's a good move by them.

在这方面的确落后于人家，这是必须得承认的

 

[Jlaw]

ZTE is extremely pro-US, since most Chinese companies are developing their chips, while they decided to keep relying on the American chips.

Now let ZTE going broke, we need more patriotic firms like Huawei, and the demise ZTE will be forever served as a valuable for the Chinese corporations.

Should they go bankrupt than it's a good thing. Another pro America Chinese company is TCL

 

[艹艹艹]

ZTE is extremely pro-US, since most Chinese companies are developing their chips, while they decided to keep relying on the American chips.

Now let ZTE going broke, we need more patriotic firms like Huawei, and the demise ZTE will be forever served as a valuable for the Chinese corporations.

no

Another pro America Chinese company is TCL

no
不懂不要瞎胡扯

 

[Jlaw]

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不懂不要瞎胡扯

你需要面对現實

 

[jhungary]

Thank you jhungary for bringing back the conversation to the topic. Are these Wi-Fi chips, Radio chips all American company?

Android OS is Amazing. To write an OS is easy job. To write an amazing OS is a bit difficult but doable. To win a market share for an OS is extremely difficult.

Well, the IC and SOC are American (I think ZTE were using Qualcomm chips) so they are going to be off their phone for 7 year, this can be easily replaced with Kirin Chips.

Wifi, Bluetooth is technology patented by American company. WiFi is managed by Wi-Fi Alliance based in Austin Texas (Although the technology itself is an Australian invention) and Bluetooth is managed by Bluetooth SIC which is based on Kirkland Washington. To use both service, you will have to gain a license from both company, which is now banned by the US. I don't know whether Chinese have similar service that did not need to license from WiFi Alliance and Bluetooth SIC, I think it's a bit tricky, but circumcising a license is doable.

There may have other technology involved, but not as big as the Wifi and Bluetooth. But the major thing is the OS, if that law applies to free licensing agreement (Android is a free open source license managed by Apache License) then ZTE phone would have to replace its Android system, which is the biggest deal of all.