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U.S. aircraft carriers hold joint drills after ASEAN lambastes Beijing over South China Sea

055 has more VLS, larger VLS, better AESA radar than Arleigh Burke. It is armed with longer ranged antiship missiles and equal range anti air missiles. The US is the one that has to counter the 055.

Seawolf can't operate freely with anti-sub aircraft and frigates overhead nor can they actively ping for submerged diesel electrics like the 041 sub. Otherwise they risk detection and losing one of 2 is devastating.

Nimitz can't compete with ground based planes. Carrier based planes are always shorter ranged and less maneuverable than equal sized land planes due to the need for reinforced landing gear.

2 carrier battle groups is like... 2 carriers, 10-12 destroyers, 2-3 subs.

PLAN also has 2 carriers, but 32 destroyers with AESA radar, another 10 destroyers with traditional radar, 60+ subs, 300 aircraft owned by the Navy alone, 36 frigates and 50+ corvettes.

more or larger VLS pick 1. Better AESA? Doubtful. Still no real counter to the US CBG. Chinese ships are of lower quality & even lower training compared to the USN. No one on planet earth think the PLAN have a snowball chance in hell going up against the USN.

Look mate this where your nationalism are going to ended getting you killed. The CCP higher up even realizes they can't win if the US Navy start sending their carrier even with homefield advantages.
 
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more or larger VLS pick 1. Better AESA? Doubtful. Still no real counter to the US CBG. Chinese ships are of lower quality & even lower training compared to the USN. No one on planet earth think the PLAN have a snowball chance in hell going up against the USN.

since you've made up your mind, maybe Indonesia can be the global superpower, while US is overlord of the galaxy.

I don't have to convince you, the proof is in the pudding: nobody can remove China's SCS airbases.
 
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LOL LRASMS cannot even get past our CIWS.

Chinese type 730 CIWS which are inferior even to Indonesian millennium CIWS.

Behold what a real CIWS looks like:


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Electronic time module programmed at muzzle

152 cylindrical tungsten alloy sub projectiles (3.3 gr. each)

Lethal cone of fragments for increased hit probability

Adjustable stand-off distances

Designed against air targets
 
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Chinese type 730 CIWS which are inferior even to Indonesian millennium CIWS.
Once a liar always a liar is so true, can you tell readers how your "Italy MADE with Indonesian painting millennium CIWS superior to Chinese 730 CIWS? im all ear, liar:dirol:
Oh please explain why Indonesian navy purchasing the "Inferior Chinese 730CIWS" other than your "Indonesian paint job Italian made millennium CIWS as well? Im all ear once again:haha:
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Chinese type 730 CIWS which are inferior even to Indonesian millennium CIWS.

Behold what a real CIWS looks like:


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Electronic time module programmed at muzzle

152 cylindrical tungsten alloy sub projectiles (3.3 gr. each)

Lethal cone of fragments for increased hit probability

Adjustable stand-off distances

Designed against air targets
LOL keep licking the white man's boots. We kill them instead and put their heads on sticks. That's why they are afraid to enter the South China Sea and do their exercises in the Philippines Sea!
 
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Once a liar always a liar is so true, can you tell readers how your "Italy MADE with Indonesian painting millennium CIWS superior to Chinese 730 CIWS? im all ear, liar:dirol:
Oh please explain why Indonesian navy purchasing the "Inferior Chinese 730CIWS" other than your "Indonesian paint job Italian made millennium CIWS as well? Im all ear once again:haha:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indo...ther-kapitan-pattimura-class-corvette.446036/
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Ever noticed that 730 are only being used in an old ship like Kapten Pattimura while Millennium CIWS are on the newer SIGMA/ Ahmad Yani class & The upcoming Iver. There's your answer. Even your best gun are not even fit to grace our new ship.
 
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LOL keep licking the white man's boots. We kill them instead and put their heads on sticks. That's why they are afraid to enter the South China Sea and do their exercises in the Philippines Sea!
I'm just stating the facts mate.
 
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Usa could smash China anytime it needs too.
Chinease equipment is cheal.copys of Russian hardware cannot hold s candle to usa

You had su30 russian, mig21 Russian, spyder Israeli, and chopper Russian. All went down the drain date 27th Feb, took few minutes of PAF. I wonder how many minutes will it take of an hour for China to rock bhart mata to smithereens.
 
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Ever noticed that 730 are only being used in an old ship like Kapten Pattimura while Millennium CIWS are on the newer SIGMA/ Ahmad Yani class & The upcoming Iver. There's your answer. Even your best gun are not even fit to grace our new ship.

Yawn, thanks for letting me know you're running out of argument, if Indonesian navy leadership are as ignorant as you, your country future sure looks bleak, please don't bother to reply me, i don't feel comfortable chatting with a lowlife liar, thankyou
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http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2009/10/type-730-chinas-ciws.html
 
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We dont k ow cause CCP os refusing to release numbers.

What is Ccp and PLA hiding?
If we tell you the truth, you'd not agree. So it's better we just leave it.
Nothing can change the color of an Indian. Not even bleach.

Yawn, thanks for letting me know you're running out of argument, if Indonesian navy leadership are as ignorant as you, your country future sure looks bleak, please don't bother to reply me, i don't feel comfortable chatting with a lowlife liar, thankyou
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And he Claim he's more Chinese than @Daniel808. All his post in this thread confirms he doesn't even have a drop of blood of Chinese. @Daniel808 was right about him.
@Brainsucker
 
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Yawn, thanks for letting me know you're running out of argument, if Indonesian navy leadership are as ignorant as you, your country future sure looks bleak, please don't bother to reply me, i don't feel comfortable chatting with a lowlife liar, thankyou
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Just ignore that low life troller bro @grey boy 2 He is not our level

Even when China's third aircraft carrier completed next year.
China's 3 Carrier Battle Group Combat Air Wing will be Bigger than any Air force in South China Sea claimant.
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I will make that thread, when I have free time

If we tell you the truth, you'd not agree. So it's better we just leave it.
Nothing can change the color of an Indian. Not even bleach.


And he Claim he's more Chinese than @Daniel808. All his post in this thread confirms he doesn't even have a drop of blood of Chinese. @Daniel808 was right about him.
@Brainsucker

Hahahaha
That still made me laughing right now :enjoy:What a pathetic, he is definetly want to be one of us but realize that cannot be happen :lol: So he become butthurt with all Chinese

Envy
 
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Yawn, thanks for letting me know you're running out of argument, if Indonesian navy leadership are as ignorant as you, your country future sure looks bleak, please don't bother to reply me, i don't feel comfortable chatting with a lowlife liar, thankyou
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"More DAKKA!!!" -Chinese leadership apparently.

So you saying just because it shoot faster it's better. LMAO Goes to show you how backward Chinese military strategist are in comparison to the western world.
 
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"More DAKKA!!!" -Chinese leadership apparently.

So you saying just because it shoot faster it's better. LMAO Goes to show you how backward Chinese military strategist are in comparison to the western world.
Is there something you don't understand from my previous post? ok, let me repeat again
DON'T ever quote me anymore, i HATE dealing with "LIAR" got it?
 
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