Type 055 DDG News & Discussions

[Beidou2020]

Desing something similar to Americans and hear for next ten years...China stole, China stole...

Time for Chinese design and innovation to come out in massive numbers.

055 is a beast. Need 30 of them to come out of fast.

The companies designing these weapons are all state-owned enterprises (SOEs).

China's best companies in the civilian sector are private companies like Huawei, Xiaomi, Alibaba, etc.

The problem with SOEs is that they have a guaranteed backup in the government so they are less concerned about profits and innovation than private companies. Private companies have to give a quality product to survive in the market, so they tend to be more innovative in general.

China should allow private companies to make these weapons along with the SOEs and then the PLA can choose the best option.

 

[Brainsucker]

I think the problem is not from the company themselves. We have witness many advanced and cool weapons that these companies develop and show at the military exhibitions for export. They were innovative and advanced. But still PLA didn't adopted them. Instead they chose more traditional approach that has less innovation than what the companies showed in the exhibition.

For example is PLA tank. We know that they can make an unmanned machine gun that placed at the top of the turret. But still this technology is not adopted to the PLA most advanced tank, the Type 99B. They still put soldiers at risk by manned the machine gun themselves.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I think the problem is not from the company themselves. We have witness many advanced and cool weapons that these companies develop and show at the military exhibitions for export. They were innovative and advanced. But still PLA didn't adopted them. Instead they chose more traditional approach that has less innovation than what the companies showed in the exhibition.

For example is PLA tank. We know that they can make an unmanned machine gun that placed at the top of the turret. But still this technology is not adopted to the PLA most advanced tank, the Type 99B. They still put soldiers at risk by manned the machine gun themselves.

For me it's simple, if we don't aim at sophistication and excellency, our soldiers will be in great danger on battlefield and less likely they will accomplish the mission and ultimately translate that we will lose the war and likely the nation will be fck.

 

[Beast]

I think the problem is not from the company themselves. We have witness many advanced and cool weapons that these companies develop and show at the military exhibitions for export. They were innovative and advanced. But still PLA didn't adopted them. Instead they chose more traditional approach that has less innovation than what the companies showed in the exhibition.

For example is PLA tank. We know that they can make an unmanned machine gun that placed at the top of the turret. But still this technology is not adopted to the PLA most advanced tank, the Type 99B. They still put soldiers at risk by manned the machine gun themselves.

I dont think PLA wants to put their soldier at risk or not embracing innovative technology. Its becos PLA do not believe the unmanned remote gun will have a better situation awareness or response compare to manned machine gun.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

The companies designing these weapons are all state-owned enterprises (SOEs).

China's best companies in the civilian sector are private companies like Huawei, Xiaomi, Alibaba, etc.

The problem with SOEs is that they have a guaranteed backup in the government so they are less concerned about profits and innovation than private companies. Private companies have to give a quality product to survive in the market, so they tend to be more innovative in general.

China should allow private companies to make these weapons along with the SOEs and then the PLA can choose the best option.

Absolutely. We need to create a healthy competition. Will act as a motivation fo SOEs to raise their game.

But I believe China should never go for totally private sector in defence. Not for a generation at least.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Type 055 with the 155mm gun.

 

[星海军事]

The Type 055 with the 155mm gun.

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These are all 130mm H/PJ-38.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

These are all 130mm H/PJ-38.

This cannot be 130, we first spotted 130 prior to the appearance of the Type 052D.

2015年，北重集团承担了我国万吨级驱逐舰设计的新型大口径火炮身管加工任务，由于加工难度大，戎鹏强主动请缨，接过了这个烫手山芋。由于是新产品，加工使用的刀体工装，加工时的切削深度、切削速度、转速等关键参数都没有，戎鹏强几乎是从零起步，试制过程中尝试用木导键刀体加工该产品，但造成加工精度差，加工效率低，而且出现锥孔，直线度超差，样柱不通，达不到技术要求。当时技术团队一筹莫展。看着交付进度一天天临近，戎鹏强冥思苦想加工方案，最难的时候，他每天和技术人员攻关到凌晨1点，回家稍微闭一下眼，然后洗漱，吃早饭，又回到现场。经过不懈努力，戎鹏强成功对工装、刀具进行自制改造，解决了该产品精加工工序难点，同时对所用的精镗导片进行重新设计各种角度，使产品一次加工合格，同时自制刀体在加工中发挥了绝对优势，使加工的产品直线度、光洁度等主要指标得到保证，同时也提高了工作效率。

 

[Beast]

I too saw a rumour of new 155mm for PLAN few years from fyjs, claiming the advantage of sharing same army 155mm rds for shore bombardment. Not sure how credible that is....

 

[星海军事]

This cannot be 130, we first spotted 130 prior to the appearance of the Type 052D.

2015年，北重集团承担了我国万吨级驱逐舰设计的新型大口径火炮身管加工任务，由于加工难度大，戎鹏强主动请缨，接过了这个烫手山芋。由于是新产品，加工使用的刀体工装，加工时的切削深度、切削速度、转速等关键参数都没有，戎鹏强几乎是从零起步，试制过程中尝试用木导键刀体加工该产品，但造成加工精度差，加工效率低，而且出现锥孔，直线度超差，样柱不通，达不到技术要求。当时技术团队一筹莫展。看着交付进度一天天临近，戎鹏强冥思苦想加工方案，最难的时候，他每天和技术人员攻关到凌晨1点，回家稍微闭一下眼，然后洗漱，吃早饭，又回到现场。经过不懈努力，戎鹏强成功对工装、刀具进行自制改造，解决了该产品精加工工序难点，同时对所用的精镗导片进行重新设计各种角度，使产品一次加工合格，同时自制刀体在加工中发挥了绝对优势，使加工的产品直线度、光洁度等主要指标得到保证，同时也提高了工作效率。

This article was first discovered by me yesterday and I gave my comment at that time.

http://weibo.com/3216449381/E2aDQ9Okb?type=comment#_rnd1470449288523

 

[hk299792458]

The Type 055 with the 155mm gun.

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No, just H/PJ-38 130mm.

Chinese navy is converging to only 3 calibers : 30mm, 76mm and 130mm.

Henri K.

 

[cirr]

The Type 055 with the 155mm gun.

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055驱逐舰列装单130口径38型舰炮是毫无疑问的。而现在可能出现的状态唯有一点，即列装于055型驱逐舰上的单130舰炮是否会恢复减重前的状态，也就是恢复双路供弹系统和取消炮口制退器。

Possible removal of muzzle brake and restoration of dual-channel shell-feeding system in the original design.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

@UKBengali China is now simultaneously building 3 Type 055 destroyers in one single shipyard. The lead ship of this class will soon be launched. So it is likely that China can also simultaneously build 3 Type 095 SSN at the same time.

http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-2275386-1-1.html

 

[UKBengali]

@UKBengali China is now simultaneously building 3 Type 055 destroyers in one single shipyard. The lead ship of this class will soon be launched. So it is likely that China can also simultaneously build 3 Type 095 SSN at the same time.

http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-2275386-1-1.html

And these Indians think that their imported Navy would stand a chance against China next decade in the IOR.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

And these Indians think that their imported Navy would stand a chance against Chine next decade in the IOR.

The Kolkata class destroyer was initially designed to face against the Type 052C, since these two ships both belong to the early 2000s. Now the first two Kolkata just barely commissioned, but they already face a large number of the Type 052D.

When the first of the Visakhapatnam class being commissioned, it will also face a large number of the Type 055.