Type 052D DDG News & Discussions

[tanlixiang28776]

On the Subject between Chinese and Indian destroyer construction. I'm not going to argue which is better as any one can look up technical details for themselves and see what they like.

Instead I will point out the indisputable timeframes of the construction projects.

During 2003 China already had finished construction of the 2 type 052C destroyers.

India starts construction of the Kolkata class destroyer.

Today China has 6 type 052C destroyers in service and 4 type 052D destroyers in service or construction.4 more are on order as well. Type 055 construction is speculated to begin this year. In the past 3 years alone China has launched 6 destroyers. This is a rate of 2 per year.

India has yet to commission the Kolkata class destroyer and is speculated to finish in 2014. With its record that is no certainty.

China's rate of production is still expanding at a huge rate.

 

[Beast]

On the Subject between Chinese and Indian destroyer construction. I'm not going to argue which is better as any one can look up technical details for themselves and see what they like.

Instead I will point out the indisputable timeframes of the construction projects.

During 2003 China already had finished construction of the 2 type 052C destroyers.

India starts construction of the Kolkata class destroyer.

Today China has 6 type 052C destroyers in service and 4 type 052D destroyers in service or construction. Type 055 construction is speculated to begin this year. In the past 3 years alone China has launched 6 destroyers. This is a rate of 2 per year.

India has yet to commission the Kolkata class destroyer and is speculated to finish in 2014. With its record that is no certainty.

China's rate of production is still expanding at a huge rate.

The speculation of INS Kolkata to finish in 2014 is rubbish. It is still in the crap shape photo which I posted earlier. No way it will make it to commission in 2014. The Indian always too ambition and bought so many different countries subsystem in which they have no technology to integrate them. Until now, they still have no idea how they are going to complete the destroyer. The hull will just left there to rot.

They just make up a false commission date to delay any backlash from the public. Their attitude is "Wait and see how"..

 

[cnleio]

The akizuki class is closer to a frigate compared to a destroyer. 32 cell vls certainly does not put it on par with actual destroyers. The only part that comes close is the 127 main gun that Koreans and Japanese navy's like to put on everything apparently.\

Wouldn't put too much trust on radars that small

on a 5000 ton ship

compared these monsters on a 7000-8000 ton ship

In Capability the akizuki is somewhere between the 054 class frigate and 052C class destroyer which makes sense as that's where its tonnage puts it at.

Well if China warship to compare with Japan akizuki class, it must be future 054B class frigate (small phased array radar frigate).

Future 054B class frigate CG

 

[tanlixiang28776]

lol we know chinese capability to make speculated J-31,16,xx, etc... look who is calling me troll... Idiots always start dick measurements... the thread is about 52D DDG... see how how many hair c--t talking about Kolkata class...

Hilarious as those two you mentioned have photographic and video evidence backing them up. The only capability we have is that we make stuff and you talk about making stuff

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Well if China warship to compare with Japan akizuki class, it must be future 054B class frigate (small phased array radar frigate).

Future 054B class frigate CG

That's why the CD forum is going downhill, the quality of their newbie posters is now astonishingly bad.

They are arguing how Akizuki is superior to the Type 052D, these mofos can't even distinguish the difference between the small/big AESA radar and the units of MW/KW/shp.

 

[saumyasupratik]

Well if China warship to compare with Japan akizuki class, it must be future 054B class frigate (small phased array radar frigate).

Future 054B class frigate CG

Are you sure these frigates in the range of 5000 tonnes with a length of 134-144m would be able to fit the long range search radar in the class of SMART-L. Even the French with their dedicated FREMM FREDA can't fit the S-1850M even though their hull is approximately 10m longer than the Type 54A on which I suppose the Type 54B would be based on or is it a new hull?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

The speculation of INS Kolkata to finish in 2014 is rubbish. It is still in the crap shape photo which I posted earlier. No way it will make it to commission in 2014. The Indian always too ambition and bought so many different countries subsystem in which they have no technology to integrate them. Until now, they still have no idea how they are going to complete the destroyer. The hull will just left there to rot.

They just make up a false commission date to delay any backlash from the public. Their attitude is "Wait and see how"..

Now ur just trolling.INS kolkata has already completed sea trials.2014 date was pushed back from 2013 due to a small problem detected in trilas.INS kochi to undergo sea trials late this yr.Its not that we don't have other destroyers.And our new shivalik class 6200 frigates are destroyer class.

 

[Beast]

Now ur just trolling.INS kolkata has already completed sea trials.2014 date was pushed back from 2013 due to a small problem detected in trilas.INS kochi to undergo sea trials late this yr.Its not that we don't have other destroyers.And our new shivalik class 6200 frigates are destroyer class.

Troll is from you. Where is the photo of the sea trial? Indian just like to lie

Beside Kolkata class destroyer, all other INS lack long range air defense for your carrier. Your CARRIER out at sea will be sitting duck against any air threat.

 

[Oldman1]

Basically the weak point will be the hull. As it using many new system on a small hull. The weakest point will be ASW as it can carry only one chopper.

I will rate them equal, Japan warship has many strong defense system but they lack offensive weapon. Their most powerful anti-ship missile armed is only Harpoon III which max range will be 180km. No LACM.

While PLAN warship will have no such worry. Even the Type052C armed with Eight C-602 crusie missile with 400km range to attack warship or land targets.

Japan is planning to get their hands on cruise missiles once they revised the Article 9.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

For a country like India not to announce something like commissioning a destroyer is ridiculous when they publish stuff like this

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/266357-iaf-chief-accepts-2nd-indian-c-17-today.html

You publish the smallest stuff and can't publish something like that lol?

 

[Beast]

Japan is planning to get their hands on cruise missiles once they revised the Article 9.

American will stop it. If Japan anyhow revise this article. It will bring South Korea, Russia and china to united against her. American despite is ally of Japan, she is also wary of her past. Putting Japan under her control and make her dependent is always US strategy. If you let Japan revise the article, soon she will go another step and make nuclear bomb.

If that is the case, US excuse of unlawful nuclear armed like NK and Iran will not be justify. This is something US would not want to see. US still has a massive forces in Okinawa. This force while guarding against China. Is also reminder to Japan leader to obey US military command.

 

[Beast]

For a country like India not to announce something like commissioning a destroyer is ridiculous when they publish stuff like this

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/266357-iaf-chief-accepts-2nd-indian-c-17-today.html

You publish the smallest stuff and can't publish something like that lol?

Precisely, indian just love to lie and brag. Totally shameless. They is no such thing of INS Kolkata on sea trial. It's still in shambled shape in shipyard. Those indian troll are making a fool of themselves.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Troll is from you. Where is the photo of the sea trial? Indian just like to lie

Beside Kolkata class destroyer, all other INS lack long range air defense for your carrier. Your CARRIER out at sea will be sitting duck against any air threat.

Barak 8 is coming with kolkata and viraat will be retired soon.Kolkata and vikrmaditya are joining fleet within a difference of months.And IN fleet is hardly defenceless,shtil-1 and barak-1 are excellent sams.Fleet defence will be provided by barak-8 and barak-8 ER.
Photo of sea trial was not released,but this is news i got from friends in IDF and blogs...the reason induction was delayed was a minor problem in sea trials.Ur talking as if PLAN s-300 rif copy is something epic,that system has low engagement angle meaning it can't really engage sea skimmers effectively,and while it has a huge range against aircraft its range is paltry 30-40km at best against incoming cruise missiles.

 

[Beast]

Barak 8 is coming with kolkata and viraat will be retired soon.Kolkata and vikrmaditya are joining fleet within a difference of months.And IN fleet is hardly defenceless,shtil-1 and barak-1 are excellent sams.Fleet defence will be provided by barak-8 and barak-8 ER.
Photo of sea trial was not released,but this is news i got from friends in IDF and blogs...the reason induction was delayed was a minor problem in sea trials.Ur talking as if PLAN s-300 rif copy is something epic,that system has low engagement angle meaning it can't really engage sea skimmers effectively,and while it has a huge range against aircraft its range is paltry 30-40km at best against incoming cruise missiles.

Those Indian from those blog and forum lie to you. Don't you realised it? If there is sea trial, the photo will splashed all over Internet. You have been taken for a ride. I pity you

What barak 8 or what? It will always be a fantasy.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Those Indian from those blog and forum lie to you. Don't you realised it? If there is sea trial, the photo will splashed all over Internet. You have been taken for a ride. I pity you

Let us wait and see 2014 is my call.What will u bet on it?