Type 052D DDG News & Discussions

[Aepsilons]

For peaceful research purpose.

Being loud is good to generate more discussion as long as we don't use the insulting manner and the repetitive spams.

Being loud is un-Confucian. This is not the Japanese Way.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

If they had perfected information age, all of their warships wouldn't got sunk during WWII. Do you know why all of them got sunk? I tell you why. They made a mistake, building a lot of heavy, huge ship, in large quantity but none of them equipped with radar like the one the British equipped US ship. That is an area of information war that they didn't understand back then. Also if they understand information war now, they would have form a cyberwarfare force. So that tell me they don't really understand how to fight in the information age yet.

They want the PLAN to fight accordingly to their rule; in one on one samurai style of duel.

During the WWII, they also wanted the US to send its battleships to fight in a close range combat with their Yamato and Musashi. However, the USN had sent zero battleship, but responded them with the aircraft carrier battlegroups.

 

[Aepsilons]

They want the PLAN to fight accordingly to their rule; in one on one samurai style of duel.

During the WWII, they also wanted the USN to send its battleships to fight in a close range combat with their Yamato and Musashi. However, the US had sent zero battleship, but responded them with the aircraft carrier battlegroups.

ROFLMAO. What? Oh dear God in Heaven...!

 

[neytirilover]

Thanks for correct me. You argued that US and China concept is similar, so AEGIS-alike design of China destroyers for what? while US used it for AB ( Anti Ballistic ) max. 3

You have a pretty bad understanding about the development history of AN/SPY-1 Series PESA, which was originally intended for high performance long-distance ship to air engagement support, also enabling the USN to deal with saturated attack threats posed by the USSR. On this regard, Chinese AESAs are designed for the same purpose.

On top of that, the capability of ballistic missile interception, regardless of which stage it being targeting for, was added once the purposely designed SM-3 series missile was operational. The AN/SPY-1 series radar antenna can be used with new baseline software upgrades to support the missile by providing target information, this was only possible because the antenna aperture of AN/SPY-1 was so large that it allows ample antenna gain and detection range, as well as the capability of high main-lobe performance at high angle-off-axis. This is also precisely the part where Type 346A/348 is on par of or have surpassed AN/SPY-1, since their comparable aperture and the more advanced AESA array. MF-STAR has a significantly smaller aperture size.

In fact, the capability of Arleigh Burke of BM interception was largely based on the existing capability of AN/SPY-1D, the performance of which is at most comparable to Type 346A, plus the enhanced interception capability of the SM-3 missile. The gap between Type 346A and anti-BM is not the radar itself, but the software behind it (which is most likely not a big problem considering a series of successful anti-ICBM and anti-Satellite experiments), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, the missile system. If you laugh at Type 346A radar for not being able to do BM interception, you are laughing at the wrong component of the system. You should be laughing at HQ-9. However, HQ-26 is already under development in full throttle.

Generally speaking, while MF-STAR might have 10 miles of advantage in detection range of sea skimming AShMs, it does not compare to Type 346A as of potential anti-BM capability and deterring of AShM launching platforms . Also, keep in mind that we mounted Type-346 radar on top of CV-16, which, well, you know, renders the advantage of MF-STAR in terms of mounting height moot.

 

[cnleio]

When u to build >30x 052D in there, it's not easy to say destroy them all ... trust me ! and a super-sonic anti-ship missile not a big deal, now many countries can buid them ... at the end it's still the quantity decide the war.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Being loud is un-Confucian. This is not the Japanese Way.

Japan is not quiet either.

 

[Harisudan]

This is no coincidence. As usual, the retired warships from the JMSDF should be sealed, not scuttled, but this time they chose a retired one with the similar tonnage to the Type 052D. It is obviously aimed at China.

But Japan still doesn't understand the fundamental concept of the modern systematic warfare, the Type 052D will not fight alone, but she will fight coordinatingly with PLAN's other warships and submarines, even with other PLA factions such as the PLAAF and second artillery corps.

Japan's naval strategic warfare still remains rigid like 75 years ago, no wonder the USN can easily sink their entire overrated navy with very little expense.

Guys, Don't live in a delusion.. Japanese did wht is best for their country.. They saw the increasing maritime presence of its prime adversary in its own backyard, and realised that an effective supersonice Antiship Missile will be the answer for that.. Japanese knows how to fight and how to plan strategic moves, they are not cowards..
No country in this would have survived a twin Nuclear attack and still come back stronger and faster than ever before except Japan..
If you think Japan don't know Modern systematic warfare than you should sleep over and come back and re read your comments..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

ROFLMAO. What? Oh dear God in Heaven...!

You seem to be a bit upset, and we know that the Yamato and Musashi were a painful history for the Japanese navy.

Guys, Don't live in a delusion.. Japanese did wht is best for their country.. They saw the increasing maritime presence of its prime adversary in its own backyard, and realised that an effective supersonice Antiship Missile will be the answer for that.. Japanese knows how to fight and how to plan strategic moves, they are not cowards..
No country in this would have survived a twin Nuclear attack and still come back stronger and faster than ever before except Japan..
If you think Japan don't know Modern systematic warfare than you should sleep over and come back and re read your comments..

Japan overall is not very versatile, so they cannot have everything to play the modern systematic warfare alone.

 

[Harisudan]

You seem to be a bit upset, and we know that the Yamato and Musashi were a painful history for the Japanese navy.



Japan overall is not very versatile, so they cannot have everything to play the modern systematic warfare alone.

If you take into consideration of Japanese assets strictly, then yes, there are gaps, but a war with japan will definitely involve assets of the United states in Japan and hence these gaps will be filled.. Also japan is ahead of China in terms of Net centric warfare, with the likes of GPS connected Aegis equipped Destroyers.. So that will also play an important role.. Not everything can be achieved by Numerical superiority..

 

[Viva_Viet]

Good, US give JP a shield (SK), US also give JP a sword ( F 35, Aegis destroyet etc). Times for the Samurai to slay the Dragon

 

[Beidou2020]

Good, US give JP a shield (SK), US also give JP a sword ( F 35, Aegis destroyet etc). Times for the Samurai to slay the Dragon

Vietnam is the ant

 

[Viva_Viet]

Vietnam is the ant

We are the gaunt wolf watching the house dogs fight

 

[xunzi]

If you take into consideration of Japanese assets strictly, then yes, there are gaps, but a war with japan will definitely involve assets of the United states in Japan and hence these gaps will be filled.. Also japan is ahead of China in terms of Net centric warfare, with the likes of GPS connected Aegis equipped Destroyers.. So that will also play an important role.. Not everything can be achieved by Numerical superiority..

Japan is no match for us. Japan + USA will be a stalemate in the end. You, I, and everybody knows that already. Let not even dispute that.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

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The Shirane Class Destroyer of the JMSDF

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You served nobly, honorably, great warrior of the Japanese Empire !

Now the great warrior will end up in a sacrificial death, so that's the way that your country treats your own great warriors?

So everybody is expendable for your empire, right?

 

[Place Of Space]

Shameless Japanese, they are occupied by the American troops but wnat to sink this, sink that. Japan is a joke.