Two killed, 25 injured in Kashmir protests

[American Pakistani]

I don't understand: sometimes, your government officials say that Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan; and then they say it is India's internal matter.

Which one is it?

Pakistan gives middle finger to what indian officials say.

Truth is there are 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists in IOK.

Death to those 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists scum roaches...may they rot in hell...

 

[sbh02]

They mentioned Pakistan because of the cross border terrorism .
Otherwise they are not a subject in this matter.

Vajpayee and Musharraf did not define "bilateral talks" like that, and Modi and BJP claims to be following the Vajpayee mantra in Kashmir.

 

[Pandora]

India already withdrawn Army from the valley two years ago
Thanks to the stupidity of that morons in five districts .Army will again going to deploy in those areas .

They asked for it and they got it .

Trust me ,if they use their usual methods that implemented to attack poor police against the Army .It would be much worse .



And we are welcoming such extreme hell .

That is exactly the kind of attitude that will make every kashmiri curse you for generation. What you indians have done in past two month will have very long term ramifications. I must say even a pakistan based conspiracy wouldnt have hurt you ambition in kashmir as much as your stupid PM has done by killing youngs kashmiris and disabling thousands over thousands.

You know i truly believe if you had let those protesters in kashmir have their way for few day after death of burhan wani they would have gone back home but bravo for screwing up.

 

[sbh02]

This post is a challenge for Indian members such as @SrNair @Sneaker @Kathin_Singh @cerberus @mpk1988 and others who think Pakistan just wants to hurt India, and doesn't even really want to see peace in the Valley; that's absolutely not true. I challenge Indians to respond to the points made in this post, instead of blindly posting their jingoistic propaganda from the Modi camp. Please stay on point, thanks!

- The four point agenda by Musharraf was accepted by Pakistanis (by Kashmiris, by Indians, by the separatists, everyone), and the four point agenda essentially called for the "autonomy" (within the constitution of India and Pakistan) of both J&K and Azad Kashmir.

- We also credit Vajpayee for trying to earnestly reaching out to Pakistan, the separatists, the Kashmiri people; trying to resolve the Kashmir issue. We were happy there was little unrest in the Valley during that time, and the Kashmiri people in J&K were happy too. Infiltration into the Valley was also at an all time low, and no one in Pakistan cared.

- This so-called "hardline"/tough approach by Modi, massacring and butchering the mainstream Kashmiri people is unacceptable to the Pakistani people, and we want this to stop from the Indian forces. Our heart goes out the thousands of Kashmiri people who are permanently injured by pellet guns, and the dozens that are getting hit everyday.

- Finally, if Modi wants to bring in Vajpayee's approach, and claims to be following it, he actually needs to back actions with words. The Kashmiri and Pakistani people, and even everyone in India besides the Modi fanboys can see through the lies that are being repeated by the Modi government. We respect Vajpayee for what he tried to do to resolve the Kashmir issue. But the hypocrisy and bigotry of the Modi regime is there for everyone to see, and he has got nothing on Vajpayee.

 

[Kathin_Singh]

- The four point agenda by Musharraf was accepted by Pakistanis (by Kashmiris, by Indians, by the separatists, everyone), and the four point agenda essentially called for the "autonomy" (within the constitution of India and Pakistan) of both J&K and Azad Kashmir.

Brother I agree with you.This was plan and it was good plan. But your ISI and its hired gangs blew up the whole plan in Mumbai 2008.200 died on that day.Actual masterminds were never even touched bcz your agency was involved.

- We also credit Vajpayee for trying to earnestly reaching out to Pakistan, the separatists, the Kashmiri people; trying to resolve the Kashmir issue. We were happy there was little unrest in the Valley during that time, and the Kashmiri people in J&K were happy too. Infiltration into the Valley was also at an all time low, and no one in Pakistan cared.

Brother we also know how much respect you have for Vajpayee. Vajpayee came to Lahore for peace in 1998 ,you returned the favour with Kargil war.How cool was that !

Brother time has changed. We were Pariah back in 1990's.West were threatening to sanction us for so called Human Right Abuses.Our only Ally USSR was collapsed.E economy was in shambles.

Now World has tasted the real meaning of Islamic terrorism.Even USA presidential candidates are talking about throwing Muslim out of USA.There is no sympathy left for this Islamists adventure masked as freedom for Kashmir. Not even a single country commented about Kashmir apart from Pakistan.

So what Vajpayee did was the need for hour.But not anymore.

- This so-called "hardline"/tough approach by Modi, massacring and butchering the mainstream Kashmiri people is unacceptable to the Pakistani people, and we want this to stop from the Indian forces. Our heart goes out the thousands of Kashmiri people who are permanently injured by pellet guns, and the dozens that are getting hit everyday.

Brother we are also not rejoicing over deaths and eye injuries in Kashmir. We are also saddened by this unnecessary violence.

But when it comes to national security and integrity,sorry to say but sentiment has to keep aside.

- Finally, if Modi wants to bring in Vajpayee's approach, and claims to be following it, he actually needs to back actions with words. The Kashmiri and Pakistani people, and even everyone in India besides the Modi fanboys can see through the lies that are being repeated by the Modi government. We respect Vajpayee for what he tried to do to resolve the Kashmir issue. But the hypocrisy and bigotry of the Modi regime is there for everyone to see, and he has got nothing on Vajpayee.

This is not the first protest and also not the last protest. for e.g. Intifadas in Israel ,they come and go.Still no independent Palestine.

So my dear Brother , we are not in hurry now to solve Kashmir as we were in 1990s.India is the fastest growing economy and West needs us in south China sea. So India has said to Pakistan , write as many letter to UN as you want. We do not care.

 

[SrNair]

Modi's "magic" touch.

Modi has got nothing on Vajpayee, Vajpayee was a far superior leader.

Because he showed some softness to Pakistan .We dont want leaders like that ,not anymore.

That's the basic and core problem . If India is unwilling to take one step back so Pakistan will also not take one step back. Which in turn proves my point the only people that will suffer are the people of Kashmir. And it won't be long that Pakistan will start the proxy war against India . Like Pakistan used to do in 1990 era. The ground and stage is set.As local people are getting irritated by Indian occupation forces. I am sure India don't want it's economic success to halt due to this.
So better both nations resolve the issue then bleed each other.

India's economic success and journey already surpassed such hiccups and bottlenecks.
5 districts Islamist separatism backed by a nation having GDP of our Maharashtra state wont effect us.

That's the basic and core problem . If India is unwilling to take one step back so Pakistan will also not take one step back. Which in turn proves my point the only people that will suffer are the people of Kashmir. And it won't be long that Pakistan will start the proxy war against India . Like Pakistan used to do in 1990 era. The ground and stage is set.As local people are getting irritated by Indian occupation forces. I am sure India don't want it's economic success to halt due to this.
So better both nations resolve the issue then bleed each other.

Pakistan is already jammed by our mere diplomatic moves.

That is exactly the kind of attitude that will make every kashmiri curse you for generation. What you indians have done in past two month will have very long term ramifications. I must say even a pakistan based conspiracy wouldnt have hurt you ambition in kashmir as much as your stupid PM has done by killing youngs kashmiris and disabling thousands over thousands.

You know i truly believe if you had let those protesters in kashmir have their way for few day after death of burhan wani they would have gone back home but bravo for screwing up.

We watched for few days and they attacked Kashmir police severly through pelting stones then we called paramilitary ,they did same against them even killed few of them and we are begin to deploy Army ,thanks to the non sense of Kashmiris in those 5 districts.
.How can they abstain from doing their job ,after all they are getting hefty salary from across the border ?
Let them curse who cares .Those who takes arms against the nation will find their way to unmarked graveyards .Rules are same from Kashmir to Kanyakumari and Rules are Rules.

We dont show any mercy to this kind of people .After all we knows what they did to the minorities in there .
And these people are opportunists .Noone in this world trusts them .
World have seen our Armed forces committment during those great floods.
If they hates us why should they accept our selfless sacrifices during floods ?
At this time this so called Hurriyats was hiding some where under our protection .pathetic.

Vajpayee and Musharraf did not define "bilateral talks" like that, and Modi and BJP claims to be following the Vajpayee mantra in Kashmir.

I already told you ,the new GoI represents new gen citizens in this nation .They see Pakistan just as our neighbour and not going to accept in our matters.
Modi just refined Vajpayees tactics .
Vajpayee did the best in those times .
15 years ago that was the maximum capability of India as a nation .But now we are in just another level and begin to exercise our might in diplomacy ,military and economy for world peace and our self interests .
Just accept this reality.

This post is a challenge for Indian members such as @SrNair @Sneaker @Kathin_Singh @cerberus @mpk1988 and others who think Pakistan just wants to hurt India, and doesn't even really want to see peace in the Valley; that's absolutely not true. I challenge Indians to respond to the points made in this post, instead of blindly posting their jingoistic propaganda from the Modi camp. Please stay on point, thanks!

- The four point agenda by Musharraf was accepted by Pakistanis (by Kashmiris, by Indians, by the separatists, everyone), and the four point agenda essentially called for the "autonomy" (within the constitution of India and Pakistan) of both J&K and Azad Kashmir.

- We also credit Vajpayee for trying to earnestly reaching out to Pakistan, the separatists, the Kashmiri people; trying to resolve the Kashmir issue. We were happy there was little unrest in the Valley during that time, and the Kashmiri people in J&K were happy too. Infiltration into the Valley was also at an all time low, and no one in Pakistan cared.

- This so-called "hardline"/tough approach by Modi, massacring and butchering the mainstream Kashmiri people is unacceptable to the Pakistani people, and we want this to stop from the Indian forces. Our heart goes out the thousands of Kashmiri people who are permanently injured by pellet guns, and the dozens that are getting hit everyday.

- Finally, if Modi wants to bring in Vajpayee's approach, and claims to be following it, he actually needs to back actions with words. The Kashmiri and Pakistani people, and even everyone in India besides the Modi fanboys can see through the lies that are being repeated by the Modi government. We respect Vajpayee for what he tried to do to resolve the Kashmir issue. But the hypocrisy and bigotry of the Modi regime is there for everyone to see, and he has got nothing on Vajpayee.

This post is a challenge for Indian members such as @SrNair @Sneaker @Kathin_Singh @cerberus @mpk1988 and others who think Pakistan just wants to hurt India, and doesn't even really want to see peace in the Valley; that's absolutely not true. I challenge Indians to respond to the points made in this post, instead of blindly posting their jingoistic propaganda from the Modi camp. Please stay on point, thanks!

- The four point agenda by Musharraf was accepted by Pakistanis (by Kashmiris, by Indians, by the separatists, everyone), and the four point agenda essentially called for the "autonomy" (within the constitution of India and Pakistan) of both J&K and Azad Kashmir.

- We also credit Vajpayee for trying to earnestly reaching out to Pakistan, the separatists, the Kashmiri people; trying to resolve the Kashmir issue. We were happy there was little unrest in the Valley during that time, and the Kashmiri people in J&K were happy too. Infiltration into the Valley was also at an all time low, and no one in Pakistan cared.

- This so-called "hardline"/tough approach by Modi, massacring and butchering the mainstream Kashmiri people is unacceptable to the Pakistani people, and we want this to stop from the Indian forces. Our heart goes out the thousands of Kashmiri people who are permanently injured by pellet guns, and the dozens that are getting hit everyday.

- Finally, if Modi wants to bring in Vajpayee's approach, and claims to be following it, he actually needs to back actions with words. The Kashmiri and Pakistani people, and even everyone in India besides the Modi fanboys can see through the lies that are being repeated by the Modi government. We respect Vajpayee for what he tried to do to resolve the Kashmir issue. But the hypocrisy and bigotry of the Modi regime is there for everyone to see, and he has got nothing on Vajpayee.

I already told you my friend.
Vajpayee era's is already gone.He did his best during his time .And he represented an old generation that saw unpartitioned India and MMS was the last one .They had some leniency towards Kashmir
Narendra Modi and future leaders only sees independent India and they couldnt see the unpartitioned one.

World is already changed and noone in India cares about emotions and feelings of our neighbour.

 

[Sneaker]

This post is a challenge for Indian members such as @SrNair @Sneaker @Kathin_Singh @cerberus @mpk1988 and others who think Pakistan just wants to hurt India, and doesn't even really want to see peace in the Valley; that's absolutely not true. I challenge Indians to respond to the points made in this post, instead of blindly posting their jingoistic propaganda from the Modi camp. Please stay on point, thanks!

- The four point agenda by Musharraf was accepted by Pakistanis (by Kashmiris, by Indians, by the separatists, everyone), and the four point agenda essentially called for the "autonomy" (within the constitution of India and Pakistan) of both J&K and Azad Kashmir.

- We also credit Vajpayee for trying to earnestly reaching out to Pakistan, the separatists, the Kashmiri people; trying to resolve the Kashmir issue. We were happy there was little unrest in the Valley during that time, and the Kashmiri people in J&K were happy too. Infiltration into the Valley was also at an all time low, and no one in Pakistan cared.

- This so-called "hardline"/tough approach by Modi, massacring and butchering the mainstream Kashmiri people is unacceptable to the Pakistani people, and we want this to stop from the Indian forces. Our heart goes out the thousands of Kashmiri people who are permanently injured by pellet guns, and the dozens that are getting hit everyday.

- Finally, if Modi wants to bring in Vajpayee's approach, and claims to be following it, he actually needs to back actions with words. The Kashmiri and Pakistani people, and even everyone in India besides the Modi fanboys can see through the lies that are being repeated by the Modi government. We respect Vajpayee for what he tried to do to resolve the Kashmir issue. But the hypocrisy and bigotry of the Modi regime is there for everyone to see, and he has got nothing on Vajpayee.

it is pakistan which needs to back its words with action. how about starting with extradition of dawood, followed by jihadi leaders?

 

[Modagudu]

India already withdrawn Army from the valley two years ago
Thanks to the stupidity of that morons in five districts .Army will again going to deploy in those areas .

.

Army was never deployed mob control / riot situations. Will they use live rounds if needed?
Just asking

 

[Trichy]

Let them try another 1-3 decades, after that no one cares for it,

 

[Modagudu]

Let them try another 1-3 decades, after that no one cares for it,

What 1-3 decade?
Just wait for 2020 or 2022...This mess will lose its way.
All they can do is shouting and crying.

 

[sbh02]

Even your chief of RAW has said this was a completely indigenous uprising from the Kashmiri people, Pakistan only came in later:

Even J&K CM has said the reason for the turmoil in Kashmir has been the Indian governments doing, not Pakistan. In fact, most sensible Indian commentators say the same thing.

 

[Moonlight]

@django @The Sandman @Zibago

 

[django]

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@django @The Sandman @Zibago

This RSS government is only digging a bigger hole for it self, the people will never forget this, I hope we can assist them the same way RAW assist BLA.Kudos

 

[Indrajit]

This post is a challenge for Indian members such as @SrNair @Sneaker @Kathin_Singh @cerberus @mpk1988 and others who think Pakistan just wants to hurt India, and doesn't even really want to see peace in the Valley; that's absolutely not true. I challenge Indians to respond to the points made in this post, instead of blindly posting their jingoistic propaganda from the Modi camp. Please stay on point, thanks!

- The four point agenda by Musharraf was accepted by Pakistanis (by Kashmiris, by Indians, by the separatists, everyone), and the four point agenda essentially called for the "autonomy" (within the constitution of India and Pakistan) of both J&K and Azad Kashmir.

- We also credit Vajpayee for trying to earnestly reaching out to Pakistan, the separatists, the Kashmiri people; trying to resolve the Kashmir issue. We were happy there was little unrest in the Valley during that time, and the Kashmiri people in J&K were happy too. Infiltration into the Valley was also at an all time low, and no one in Pakistan cared.

- This so-called "hardline"/tough approach by Modi, massacring and butchering the mainstream Kashmiri people is unacceptable to the Pakistani people, and we want this to stop from the Indian forces. Our heart goes out the thousands of Kashmiri people who are permanently injured by pellet guns, and the dozens that are getting hit everyday.

- Finally, if Modi wants to bring in Vajpayee's approach, and claims to be following it, he actually needs to back actions with words. The Kashmiri and Pakistani people, and even everyone in India besides the Modi fanboys can see through the lies that are being repeated by the Modi government. We respect Vajpayee for what he tried to do to resolve the Kashmir issue. But the hypocrisy and bigotry of the Modi regime is there for everyone to see, and he has got nothing on Vajpayee.

Factually incorrect. The Musharraf-MMS formula (not Vajpayee) was discarded by Gen Kayani after Musharraf's exit. It was Pakistan that backed out.

 

[sbh02]

Factually incorrect. The Musharraf-MMS formula (not Vajpayee) was discarded by Gen Kayani after Musharraf's exit. It was Pakistan that backed out.

It was during MMS and Musharraf's time, but the process was started during Vajpayee and Musharraf's time. Pakistan clamped down on infiltration in the Valley.