Two front war | Which nation will ally with India against SinoPak ?

[Jade]

Nukes are irrelevant when both China and India have "No First Use" policies. Since neither side can nuke first, there is no way they could come into play.

And even if the above were not the case, India's total nuclear arsenal is only about 1 megaton in total, made up of mostly 20 kt fission devices. No thermonuclear weapons.

Whereas even ONE single Chinese thermonuclear weapon is around 4 megatons. One single Chinese nuke has 4 times the explosive power of India's entire arsenal.

During the Cold War, China was prepared to fight and survive a nuclear war with both the USA and Russia, with the casualties estimated in the hundreds of millions.

After that, what threat is India's nuclear arsenal which is only 1 megaton in total, and with the Agni V not even inducted yet?

Though I'm very glad to see that Indians have resorted to the "we have nukes" argument, which is something they are always accusing the Pakistani members of doing.

"No First Use" policies are for wars with non nuke powers and not with nuke powers. Second, any two front war with Pakistan and China will be a question of survival for India, and hence nukes will certainly come into play. Third, the size of the bomb matters least because of the diminishing marginal returns. To bring China to knees, India may not require more than 10 30 KTon bombs to bomb Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou. This is enough to take China to stone ages. Fourth and last, in case of a war, China has much more to loose than India, hence China will be more restraint and India belligerent

 

[Aka123]

You don't speak about realistic scenarios. Your posts are all troll, with things which you only dream.

You guys start shivering even in the name of Russia and USA. How can you even think of competing them. Lol!!

 

[graphican]

Russia should've been a choice in the poll. America is also one distant possibility.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The way to fight India is not militarily, but economically and socially. In fact, any overt military threat works to India's advantage because it unites the country against external threats.

We are winning that game. We have an $8.3 trillion economy with manufacturing/exports/imports all soaring at the moment, with the Chinese Yuan reaching record highs against the US dollar.

Whereas India has growth falling to 4.4% as well as a collapsing Rupee. And manufacturing is even shrinking in India.

Our currency reserves alone are double the GDP of India.

The good news for India is that neither Pakistan nor China possesses the means or skill to pull this off.

Could the US and the UK do it if they were so inclined? You better believe it!

Look at recent events.

The US Federal reserve "hinted" that they would stop their easy-money policy, and immediately afterwards the Indian Rupee collapsed.

It's the American Empire that holds the cards over India and they are the ones pulling the rug out from under their feet. And the worst part is that it's not even intentional, the US Federal reserve destroyed the Rupee without a second thought and simply did not care or notice.

 

[kaykay]

"No First Use" policies are for wars with non nuke powers and not with nuke powers. Second, any two front war with Pakistan and China will be a question of survival for India, and hence nukes will certainly come into play. Third, the size of the bomb matters least because of the diminishing marginal returns. To bring China to knees, India may not require more than 10 30 KTon bombs to bomb Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou. This is enough to take China to stone ages. Fourth and last, in case of a war, China has much more to loose than India, hence China will be more restraint and India belligerent

Mate I have read that old(2008) report which says that India has 1 MT in total but that was when we had 50-60 weapons(according to the same report) and same report says that India has 200 kt warheads too. That means India could have made many warheads yeilding 200KT etc in these 4-5 years. So his analysis is utter BS and flawed as always.

 

[Developereo]

It's the American Empire that holds the cards over India

The economic might is only one part of it. China may, at some point, wield enough economic clout to affect India's economy significantly like the US does.

However, China lacks the second, and most essential aspect, of this strategy, which is attitude control through media brainwashing. Only American and British media dominates the globe, and India is especially vulnerable given the penetration of global media there.

 

[Aka123]

Thread full of Chinese wet dreams, who can only boast big in PDF.

 

[danger007]

So you guys thinking... attacking a big country is so simple and no other countries will worried and interfere because china is involved?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Look how china invaded more of your territory and you guys did nothing. Theres a video even on Live Leak where you see Chinese Soldiers intruding Indian Territory and all you're doing is telling them to go back nicely or holding them from moving a few feet further in your territory, Too scared to do anything. If an army comes into your territory the first thing you do is shoot the sh.it out of them to tell them not to fu.ck with you. But what did you do? Just sat there and watched. All you do is Talk the Talk but never actually walk the walk.

Any Indians want to reply to the post above? @Aka123?

We all saw the video of PLA soldiers pushing their way into Indian territory without resistance.

Chinese soldiers can push deep into Indian territory and India can't do anything about it, as they have proven over and over again. We can go deep into Indian territory and stay there for weeks without the slightest resistance.

India can open fire on the Bangladesh border and the Pakistan border, regardless of whether the targets are soldiers, civilians or even cattle traders.

But when the PLA comes in, India just backs down and agrees to all our demands.

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India

 

[SOHEIL]

Iran will ally with India, they are friends forever with historical ties. @SOHEIL

No idea !!!

 

[Infinity]

Was Pakistan Helped in 1971 by their then allies US & China .....................Did they help Pakistan by attacking India.........Why should we go on War with China??.....................If we go on War with Pakistan, Do you Expect China to attack India??

 

[scorpionx]

@Barakah:

1.Whom do you blame for the recurring intrusions in ladakh?

2.Do you think "shoot at site" the Chinese there is the wisest option we have?

 

[Aka123]

Any Indians want to reply to the post above? @Aka123?

We all saw the video of PLA soldiers pushing their way into Indian territory without resistance.

Chinese soldiers can push deep into Indian territory and India can't do anything about it, as they have proven over and over again. We can go deep into Indian territory and stay there for weeks without the slightest resistance.

India can open fire on the Bangladesh border and the Pakistan border, regardless of whether the targets are soldiers, civilians or even cattle traders.

But when the PLA comes in, India just backs down and agrees to all our demands.

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India

Don't troll, even you know the reality what China can do in reality and what China cannot.

Yeah China can conquor India 1000 times in your dreams.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

No idea !!!

Did you know that India cut off buying any Iranian oil in the month of July?

India bought zero barrels of Iranian oil in July, they got the extra supply from Iraq and Saudi Arabia instead. Your competitors.

Whereas China buys more than 50% of Iranian oil every month. We buy more Iranian oil than the rest of your customers combined.

So why would Iran possibly send soldiers to fight against China + Pakistan, on behalf of India?

 

[Fireurimagination]

Hold back China - Finish off Pakistan - Then Finish off China

Simple, no help needed, piece of cake