Twin Engined Deck Based Fighter [TEDBF] Development | Updates & Discussions.

[Raj-Hindustani]

Nope.

They are trying to follow Pakistani model of JF17.

The experiment of "Indi Genius" products had been going for over 40 years.
This is a new chapter in the famous novel, nothing more.

India does not want to buy OEM products like su 30 mki and jf 17... Both are same level of OEM tag..

 

[The Maverick]

Pakistanis model

Made to order like s Chinese take away

This is being designed tested built in India by Indians on Indian infrastructure with Indian money

Yes we may bring consultants in to advise but it's our own project not Lockheed or dassault anyone else

 

[Trango Towers]

India does not want to buy OEM products like su 30 mki and jf 17... Both are same level of OEM tag..

India doesnt understand that the wheel will always be round

 

[crankthatskunk]

India does not want to buy OEM products like su 30 mki and jf 17... Both are same level of OEM tag..

You lost it mate.

 

[wali87]

As long as it’s made in India and made by your hal, we Pakistanis are happy with its development.

New Made-In-India Fighter Cleared For Development, First Flight In 6 Years
The new fighter-jet will be designed to operate from the deck of India's two aircraft carriers INS Vikramaditya and the soon to be inducted INS Vikrant.
All India Written by Vishnu Som
Updated: June 04, 2020 03:50 pm IST

New Delhi: Buoyed by the success of trial landings of the Tejas-N fighter on board the Navy aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya, the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) has given the go ahead for the development of a twin engine made-in-India fighter jet.

NDTV has learnt that the governing body of ADA, the principal designer of the Tejas fighter, now in squadron service with the Indian Air Force, has discussed the indigenous development of the new fighter in a meeting chaired by Defence Minister Rajnath Singh and attended by the Navy and Air Force Chiefs on 22 May. Following this meeting, the Operational Requirements (ORs) for the new fighter were issued by the Integrated Headquarters of the Ministry of Defence.
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Development of the new fighter jet comes at a time when the government announced a series of structural reforms in the Defence sector under the "Atmanirbhar" or self-reliance goal which is meant to result in India dramatically cutting down on its defence imports.

Based on the Tejas fighter, the new Navy fighter is meant to supplement MiG-29s.



The prototype of the new fighter-jet, designed to operate from the deck of India's two aircraft carriers, INS Vikramaditya and the soon to be inducted INS Vikrant, is meant to fly within six years with induction of the fighter within a decade.

The fighter, plans for which were first reported on NDTV in January, is a twin-engine evolution of Tejas-N prototype which has been indigenously developed and extensively test-flown.




The Tejas-N programme culminated with a series of "arrested landings" and take-offs from INS Vikramaditya off the Goa coast where two prototypes of the jet were able to successfully land on the carrier in January by using its arrestor hook to snare steel wires spread across the deck of the ship. This allowed the fighters to decelerate from approximately 244 kmph (the landing speed) to a standstill in approximately two seconds in a distance under 90 metres, within the length of the deck of INS Vikramaditya.

The Aeronautical Development Agency has given the go-ahead for the development of the fighter jet.

Those involved in the design and development of the new Indian fighter, an advanced variant of the single-engine Tejas-N, say that they have benchmarked the performance characteristics of the jet to Boeing's F/A-18 E/F "Super Hornet", in service with the US Navy and the Marine Rafale, deployed on the French Navy aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle. They say the new jet may imbibe technologies being developed for the IAF's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) but will not be a stealth fighter in the same class.

Extensive tests on Tejas-N prototype gave designers confidence to proceed to develop larger aircraft.

At least three variations of the design of the new fighter are being studied presently and Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) tests and wind tunnel modelling will ensure the optimum shape of the fighter to match its projected operational capabilities. It's still unclear whether the new fighter will be a tail-less delta platform, similar to the IAF's LCA Tejas fighter or, for that matter, feature canards, a small forewing placed ahead of the main wing of the aircraft to aid manoeuvrability.

The new fighter, once inducted, is meant to supplement and ultimately replace the Indian Navy's fleet of MiG-29K fighters presently in service on board the INS Vikramaditya. A high-performance jet, the MiG-29K has been plagued with serviceability issues in Indian Navy service. The new indigenous fighter is designed to be more reliable. Those close to the project have told NDTV that they expect the new fighter to be able to be armed with at least six air to air missiles with an operational endurance of approximately two hours.





The project to develop a twin engine deck-based fighter (TEDBF) reflects a maturity and confidence in the development of the Tejas fighter jet upon which the new fighter will be based. On May 27, the Indian Air Force operationalised its second Tejas fighter jet squadron after first inducting the jet in 2016. Multiple variants of the Tejas based on additional capabilities are being progressively inducted. The most advanced variant of the fighter for the IAF, the Tejas Mk-2 is expected to be inducted by 2025. The new fighter being developed for the Navy is being classified as an altogether different fighter and is expected to be superior to the IAF's Tejas Mk-2 in several respects, once developed.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/new...flight-in-6-years-2240666?pfrom=home-bigstory

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[Deino]

Not sure why exactly the old thread on the Twin Engined Deck Based Fighter [TEDBF] was deleted but IMO it is worth an own thread and even more not appropriate to discuuss thsi type in the Tejas thread.

Therefore please go ahead based on the latest model just being prepared for Aero India 2021:

via

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356135867732033540

 

[Tumba]

Nice TEDBF will be more than a match for any existing fighter in Indian Inventory... yes I rate it higher than Rafale ..
Simple reason Better and More High Thrust Engines...

 

[Indos]

 

[HostileInsurgent]

Regarding the weapons which are part of CATS program

1. CATS HUNTER which is a stand off cruise missile
There are 2 variants shown
A. With a large RF seeker
B. With a IIR seeker ( behind the optical transparent screen on the nose )

There might be other variants depending on the payload types.

2. CATS ALPHA this is a airborne swarm carrier pod, while the autonomous swarm drones are named as ALPHA-S .

Multiple ALPHA-S drones are carried inside the pod in what seems like a rotatory dispenser mechanism.

The one on the left is also CATS ALPHA ( but non transparent model )

3. CATS WARRIOR loyal wingman with internal payloads , in pic SAAW is shown as one of the payloads.

 

[HostileInsurgent]

@Zapper, which one?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356105078147600384

 

[Saudang]

CATS updates are more interesting.. now its time for HAL DRDO to deliver on time. They no more have the excuse of technology denial

 

[HostileInsurgent]

@Zapper, which one?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356105078147600384

CATS updates are more interesting.. now its time for HAL DRDO to deliver on time. They no more have the excuse of technology denial

Do228 of HAL is becoming Amphibious, man this year’s aero India will be very fun!!! Sadly because of COVID-19 the spectators are not allowed this time.

Will be better if these are added also in our existing Do228 fleet.

 

[Zapper]

@Zapper, which one?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356105078147600384

These from Tata & Mahindra

@Zapper, which one?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356105078147600384

and this

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356185129207484417

 

[Nasr]

Why would india test a single engine fighter for deck landings when no country on earth has ever deployed single jet engined fighter from an aircraft carrier?

 

[Novice09]

Why would india test a single engine fighter for deck landings when no country on earth has ever deployed single jet engined fighter from an aircraft carrier?

To test various systems and sub-systems on aircraft carrier after testing them at INS Hansa (ground based facility)... after navy red flagged the naval version of LCA because of:

1. Single Engine
2. Payload and Range issue

This was done to speed up the design and development of twin engine fighter jet for Indian Navy...