Turkish Unmanned Vehicle Programs

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It is hearhbreakin if you read the numbers.

Anka total weight is 1600kg with a payload of 200 kg. 1/8 ratio on payload/weight.

Elbit hermes 900 total weight is 1150 kg with a payload of 350 kg. Almost 1/3 ratio.

Difference is huge.

Dont get me wrong, i love everything anout anka.

Probably Hermes 900's operating altitude or endurance is reduced when it has a 350kg payload. Anka can carry 200kg payload with the specified endurance and altitude. When you compare them directly with the same payload, altitude and endurance Hermes will likely be better but not that much better.

 

[Secular Doctor]

Probably Hermes 900's operating altitude or endurance is reduced when it has a 350kg payload. Anka can carry 200kg payload with the specified endurance and altitude. When you compare them directly with the same payload, altitude and endurance Hermes will likely be better but not that much better.

Elbit hermes 900

Endurance up to 36 hours
Service Ceiling 30,000 ft

Tai anka

• Servis irtifası: 30,000ft (ASL)
• Havada Kalış Süresi: 24 saat

Hermes is better at that area too.

 

[cabatli_53]

Elbit hermes 900

Endurance up to 36 hours
Service Ceiling 30,000 ft

Tai anka

• Servis irtifası: 30,000ft (ASL)
• Havada Kalış Süresi: 24 saat

Hermes is better at that area too.

Bro, Latest known performance of Anka-B with 200kg payload (300T + SAR radar)
-30500ft altitude
-27h endurance

 

[Secular Doctor]

Bro, Latest known performance of Anka-B with 200kg payload (300T + SAR radar)
-30500ft altitude
-27h endurance

Yeah i remember those numbers. Still i posted from the tai website which i belive we can call them as official statistics.

 

[cabatli_53]

Yeah i remember those numbers. Still i posted from the tai website which i belive we can call them as official statistics.

If We consider CATS+SATCOM payload on Anka-S weight less than 200kg + more powerful domestic engine (170hp) having superior altitude performance/fuel consumption, It means Anka-S can climb higher altitude, staying longer on air.

Domestic engine/German equivalent comparison

-Generating 20hp more power
Turkish engine: 170hp
German engine: 150hp

-Power/Weight ratio is better than German equivalent
Turkish engine:170hp/170kg
German engine:150hp/165kg

-Less fuel consumable than German equivalent
Turkish engine fuel consump: max 210 gr/kWh
German engine fuel consump: max 215 gr/kWh

-Critical altitude for power
German engine: 11500ft
Turkish engine: 20000ft

 

[SOHEIL]

Elbit hermes 900

Endurance up to 36 hours
Service Ceiling 30,000 ft

Tai anka

• Servis irtifası: 30,000ft (ASL)
• Havada Kalış Süresi: 24 saat

Hermes is better at that area too.

Experience causes the difference !

 

[Bismarck]

It is hearhbreakin if you read the numbers.

Anka total weight is 1600kg with a payload of 200 kg. 1/8 ratio on payload/weight.

Elbit hermes 900 total weight is 1150 kg with a payload of 350 kg. Almost 1/3 ratio.

Difference is huge.

Dont get me wrong, i love everything anout anka.

Anka engine: 135 hp
Hermes engine: 115hp

 

[Oguzhan]

So,what about the flight time.We know that most of the weight is fuel.Can hermes make it 20 hours ?

 

[Bismarck]

If We consider CATS+SATCOM payload on Anka-S weight less than 200kg + more powerful domestic engine (170hp) having superior altitude performance/fuel consumption, It means Anka-S can climb higher altitude, staying longer on air.

Domestic engine/German equivalent comparison

-Generating 20hp more power
Turkish engine: 170hp
German engine: 150hp

-Power/Weight ratio is better than German equivalent
Turkish engine:170hp/170kg
German engine:150hp/165kg

-Less fuel consumable than German equivalent
Turkish engine fuel consump: max 210 gr/kWh
German engine fuel consump: max 215 gr/kWh

-Critical altitude for power
German engine: 11500ft
Turkish engine: 20000ft

When will the engine be operational?

So,what about the flight time.We know that most of the weight is fuel.Can hermes make it 20 hours ?

35h.

 

[Oguzhan]

When will the engine be operational?



35h.

Then we have a problem here. Yea with cats and satcam. Maybe they can fly with a couple one carry cats and the other satcom.So both of them can carry some ammunition.

 

[Bismarck]

Then we have a problem here. Yea with cats and satcam. Maybe they can fly with a couple one carry cats and the other satcom.So both of them can carry some ammunition.

CATS will reduce weight by 50kg.

 

[Hexciter]

CATS will reduce weight by 50kg.

60 kg

 

[Oguzhan]

60kg makes 2 Mam-l

 

[Hexciter]

60kg makes 2 Mam-l

US Army's Gray Eagle which is very close to Anka carries 4 Hellfire missiles which are about 50 kg each

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1C_Gray_Eagle

 

[era_shield]

Elbit hermes 900

Endurance up to 36 hours
Service Ceiling 30,000 ft

Tai anka

• Servis irtifası: 30,000ft (ASL)
• Havada Kalış Süresi: 24 saat

Hermes is better at that area too.

I know what the specs are. It doesn't mean it can do 36 hours at 30k ft while simultaneously carrying 350kg.