Turkish Recording About the Warnings to SU-24

[The-king]

typical missunderstanding.

don´t worry we will rebuild Babylon with one language after defeating you all and creating Zion!

Hail Zion!

@waz @Slav Defence

 

[Juicer]

so by Turks logic , we should shot down Turkish Fighters when they are violating our Airspace when they are bombing PKK ...

and we should war them from 57 Km from our border ( that mean we should war them when they are in their own Air space ) ...

 

[Aslan]

You are mixing many things here, that go very separate due to the nature of their origin. Let's dissect one by one:

1) I don't think the Turks fell into a trap. I do agree it was a trap. But, I also can tell you that this was one of those situations that damn if you do, and damn if you don't. In other words, the Russians had been violating Turkey's airspace for a while. And it was becoming a daily thing. This was primarily to irritate NATO like they've been doing around Denmark, Begium, Finland and around Alaska.

But here, you had more than NATO on Russia's mind. These were instructions per Assad probably to irritate Turkey and violate their airspace to show the Russian power. If Turkey act like a servant, then Russia, Assad and Iran win. If Turkey tried to harass airspace violation flights, then Russia would bring in missiles that can pose a threat to Turkish AF inside Turkey. So Tukey had to make a call. In fact, the call made, was beyond the Russian calculation. They actually took down their jet.

Which was a clear message that if you want to fukk with us, you are looking at a serious fight. Russia got it right away and their planes have been following the 10KM buffer rules. This isn't a Russian plane down. This is Turks telling Russia, if you come in our neighborhood and tried to be the Don, it won't be without a tough fight. So lets be prepared. The message was understood very well. In fact, all other messages would've been taken with lower intensity.

2) The US Coastline issue with the Russian jets, or fly overs at the USN, are ALL peacetime activities. During Combat Ready scenario, no hostile jet enters a three hundred mile radius around the CBG. Let alone violating airspace. Anything or everything is taken out from 300 or more miles away. Standard operating procedures.

This here is a war like situation and you'll see these issues popping up. Didn't Russian Mig-29's locked onto Turkish jets a couple of months ago? And harassed them for four minutes? So all that patience had to come out in a strong message and it happened.

Will the PAF let IA's MKI troll close to Islamabad or Lahore for ten minutes?

One more point alot of people are ignoring is the Russians actually harassing the Turkish place last month, with a lock on to shoot for more then 5 minutes.

 

[TopCat]

We warned Russians from 30 mile . And they keep coming to 1 km. And two plane violated the border and we still warned them and after that both plane left our airspace. But again 1 plane violated the border 4 km . And this time our pilot fired the missile from 60 km. And missile catched plane 1 km out of our borders. Thats it.

For the last couple of days Russians are conducting operation within meter of your border.. Are you still warning them???

Dont do anything that you cant sustain. Russian did what they could sustain.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

Nice analysis.
It's off topic but i like to read what your expectations for the selection ?
All i know is Trump gonna win and he likes Putin/Russia.

Tr

Hi,

Well that would mean an execution---plain and simple----. We already know that there is a language barrier---we already know that the opponent is in an obsolete aircraft---we already know that there might be a good chance that the transmission may not go thru properly.

So---why not fly your superior aircraft next to that old dog and point at him to move out---.

@Viper0011.

If russia had already done that and was doing it again then it means it was inciting for trouble---. They set up a trap and Turkey fell right into it.

So---now the Nato Patriot missiles have been pulled out of Turkey---and Russia brings in S400 into Syria--right next door---. It is also going to bring more troops and assets---so whose failure of strategy it is---.

My call is that Turkey has miserably failed in the arena----. They wanted to keep their lilly white ar-ses nice and clean and away from trouble at a time when they should have jumped in and curbed the terrorists right from the word go----but in waiting and trying to keep their hands clean---they have ended up in a bigger mess than they ever dreamed oof.

This aircraft shooting down was a decision made in anger---in anxiety---and the reason given shows total callousness---.

How many times the russian aircraft have flown inside british coastline---or inside U S coastline---or how many times russian aircraft have buzzed U S navy ships real close---?

This event have changed the attitude of NATO towards Erdogan in particular and those countires/people who were critisizing Erdogan for his policies in Turkey will now rally behind him.So at the end of the day Erdogan didnt loose much. So this missile was fired by Erdogan and it did hit the target. I would like to remind you a very important trip of Erdogan to Moscow on Sep 24, a day before Russia declared to step in Syria. So all of this could be a cover. Turks rally behind Erdogan, NATO rally behind Erdogan and mayb just mayb Putin and Erdogan are trolling NATO. I like the guy though he is sharp.

 

[fox 2]

so by Turks logic , we should shot down Turkish Fighters when they are violating our Airspace when they are bombing PKK ...

and we should war them from 57 Km from our border ( that mean we should war them when they are in their own Air space ) ...

It's NATO rule.

For the last couple of days Russians are conducting operation within meter of your border.. Are you still warning them???

Dont do anything that you cant sustain. Russian did what they could sustain.

Yeah you said right. Russians don't bombing ISIS. They are bombing Turkmens who live next to our border. ISIS positions in 250 km east.
They violated our airpace two time and they are apologized. They said it wont be again. And then we shoot it down. Simple is that. Use your please sir.

 

[Juicer]

It's NATO rule.

Yeah you said right. Russians don't bombing ISIS. They are bombing Turkmens who live next to our border. ISIS positions in 250 km east.
They violated our airpace two time and they are apologized. They said it wont be again. And then we shoot it down. Simple is that. Use your please sir.

Do you know that NATO rule has no value for non NATO country !?

 

[Zaneesh852]

From that distance---it looks more like an execution---. SU24 has nothing that could threaten the F16----.

It was a ground attack plane, so implication were there about the intentions. Had it been the fighter aircraft, things might be very different. Remember, Turkish Jets were reportedly locked by someone a month ago but nothing happened.

 

[Beast]

It's NATO rule.

Yeah you said right. Russians don't bombing ISIS. They are bombing Turkmens who live next to our border. ISIS positions in 250 km east.
They violated our airpace two time and they are apologized. They said it wont be again. And then we shoot it down. Simple is that. Use your please sir.

The Russian are bombing Turkmen ISIS members. Today is just a start, next few weeks will annihilate all Turkmen in syria.

 

[fox 2]

Do you know that NATO rule has no value for non NATO country !?

You dumb. It's about NATO border protocols. It's not about who approaching.

The Russian are bombing Turkmen ISIS members. Today is just a start, next few weeks will annihilate all Turkmen in syria.

Yeah, russians a$$ burning like hell. Angry bear attacking everywhere. They got media, they got all fools.
Thank god you are learned that what we saying. They are not bombing ISIS. Just Turkmens.
1 bomb to ISIS for media and fool control 3 bomb the Turkmens for future desing.

 

[nik22]

It was a ground attack plane, so implication were there about the intentions. Had it been the fighter aircraft, things might be very different. Remember, Turkish Jets were reportedly locked by someone a month ago but nothing happened.

So you are saying Ground attack plane was going to bomb inside Turkey?
Turkey lost their nerves and shoot the plane. I think Russia has brought them to edge. Bombing right at their borders, harassing their pilots by getting lock (but they did not shoot. They just like to play).

And, someone saying NATO countries/people rallying behind Erdogan. It could not have been more wrong. They are just showing some solidarity, for the sake of NATO. Otherwise everyone knows it is work of mad man. No one wants to be with mad man. He is already running dubious policies with ISIS.

By Bringing S-400, advanced warships, Russia would humiliate Turkey. All that pride will be of no use. NATO - no where to be seen. Just putting some statements in the air.

 

[Juicer]

You dumb. It's about NATO border protocols. It's not about who approaching.


Yeah, russians a$$ burning like hell. Angry bear attacking everywhere. They got media, they got all fools.
Thank god you are learned that what we saying. They are not bombing ISIS. Just Turkmens.
1 bomb to ISIS for media and fool control 3 bomb the Turkmens for future desing.

you are dumb , no one has to follow this rule , .... its is just like we made an protocol and then declare that Turks fighter shouldn't get close to 100 kilometer of our border .... do you have to follow our protocol !?

I remember USA was saying that no fighter or aircraft should get close to her aircraft carrier ( according of the protocol , the minimum lenght was 9km ) .... we said that : " We don't follow your protocol" and then our aircraft was flying over their aircraft carrier in Persian Gulf ...

 

[TopCat]

You dumb. It's about NATO border protocols. It's not about who approaching.

So Syrians cant even go close to their own border only because Turkey a NATO member constantly bugging them while they were flying in their own sky. What about Syrians and Russians start bugging you when you approach your border in 58 KM? I mean NATO rules apply to you.

 

[Beast]

You dumb. It's about NATO border protocols. It's not about who approaching.


Yeah, russians a$$ burning like hell. Angry bear attacking everywhere. They got media, they got all fools.
Thank god you are learned that what we saying. They are not bombing ISIS. Just Turkmens.
1 bomb to ISIS for media and fool control 3 bomb the Turkmens for future desing.

Nobody buys your story. France is eager to have Russia help in destroying ISIS. France might even persuade by Russia to join bombing of Turkmen terrorist since that will have a complete shut down of Syria-Turkey border. Syria Kurds control other half and Assad/Russian control the remaining half border. Syria Turkmen will be wiped out soon.

There is nothing Turkey can do a thing to help your brothers than an outright invasion and confrontation with Russia/Syria army in Syria soil. The Russian/Assad are waiting for you. Dont make them wait too long

 

[fox 2]

So Syrians cant even go close to their own border only because Turkey a NATO member constantly bugging them while they were flying in their own sky. What about Syrians and Russians start bugging you when you approach your border in 58 KM? I mean NATO rules apply to you.

Why everyone so dumb ? Thats not a normal border. They shot our F-4 and we are shot their mig-23 and 1 heli. And we declerad we will treated like a enemy who approach our border in 2012..

Nobody buys your story. France is eager to have Russia help in destroying ISIS. France might even persuade by Russia to join bombing of Turkmen terrorist since that will have a complete shut down of Syria-Turkey border. Syria Kurds control other half and Assad/Russian control the remaining half border. Syria Turkmen will be wiped out soon.

There is nothing Turkey can do a thing to help your brothers than an outright invasion and confrontation with Russia/Syria army in Syria soil. The Russian/Assad are waiting for you. Dont make them wait too long

No next move is theirs. We'll see what they gonna do.