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Hersey iyi güzelde madem kasetler gercek degil neden basbakan Youtube ve Facebook'u kapatmak istiyor, niye tamda kasetler ciktigi zaman?
Demekki kasetlerde birsey varki yayilmasini önlemeye calisiyor.
Türkiyenin en büyük sorunu zaten bir kac istisnalar disinda hic adam gibi politikacisinin olmamasi, seninde dedigin gibi bu gitse yerine kim gelecek, al birini vur ötekine.Bir yandan bunları yaparken, diğer yandan halkın özgürlüklerini kısıtlıyorlar. Yok kaset doğru veya yanlış bile olsa, çözüm youtube'u kapatmak mı. o yüzden kimse ak kaşık değil arkadaş. Kimisi yasaklıyor, kimisi darbe yapıyor, kimisi hükümeti, devletle karıştırıyor vs.
Dude things are more complicated than you might think.
There are ministers sons and AKP politians among the arrested people.
If police was politicized, akp's corruption scandal wouldn't have been discovered. The police is just doing it's job. Or you could be right that the police chief ordering those searches was politicized by Gulen. Everything is possible..But is @Leader true in saying police in Tukey is politicized? It thats the case, then this just a charade, not a proper investigation. I m sorry I m not aware of whats going on in Turkey.
From the outside, it looks AKP has done a fantastic job at reviving Turkey in the last decade. Before that, it wasn't very different from what Pakistan is now under corrupt and inept leadership.
I have nothing to add to usernameless post, he explained it good.But is @Leader true in saying police in Tukey is politicized? It thats the case, then this just a charade, not a proper investigation. I m sorry I m not aware of whats going on in Turkey.
From the outside, it looks AKP has done a fantastic job at reviving Turkey in the last decade. Before that, it wasn't very different from what Pakistan is now under corrupt and inept leadership.
how do you know that the replacements are all akp guys?@usernameless you fail to mention that around 1000 police officers all around Turkey were replaced and that these new policemen refuse to execute warrants. So yes the police is politicized and so is the judicary.
how do you know that the replacements are all akp guys?
do they undergo a check on their political status before they are assigned their post??
how do you know that the replacements are all akp guys?
do they undergo a check on their political status before they are assigned their post??
how do you know that the replacements are all akp guys?
do they undergo a check on their political status before they are assigned their post??
my opinion is that the akp could have done this purging before starting the conflict against Gulen's movement way back when the corruption issue was not public. why should they purge folks if there wasn't a problem? they could have purged the top positions long before to make sure that there was no possible single leak, and the media at that time surely would have noticed such a possible too. Erdogan is a former ally of Gulen, he could have known that, but probably didn;t expect it. Thanks to the recent developments you can see that Gulen indeed is influential, perhaps too much. in that case i can justify the purgings, because there is a reason to do so, so this movement will get curbed for good, not only for the good of a party, but for Turkey in general. or are you saying that Erdogan waited all the time for Gulen to make his move, so that Erdogan finally had a 'valid' reason to do these purges after the damage was actually already done? When the Akp is gone, another party would like to see like-minded people at top positions too, that's only natural when you have power, but at least i don't want to see a shady movement influencing stuff without us common people knowing about it. i can understand when you guys think i am delusional and whatnot, but don't you guys see that besides akp there is another threat, perhaps an even bigger one than the akp? again, Erdogan and co must be punished when needed, but we also shouldn't close our eyes to the rest. None of them is rosy as they claim to be.