Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[Fenasi Kerim]

Which countries flag will the hevals hide behind this time.

Wouldn't it make sense just to invade the whole of hevalistan "Afrin canton" and end this game once and for good, instead of playing around with corridors and all that shit.

 

[what]

What do you accomplish by occupying a territory that is hostile to you?

Get back Tel Rifaat and then some. Strategic bombing will do the rest.

 

[KingWest]

What do you accomplish by occupying a territory that is hostile to you?

Get back Tel Rifaat and then some. Strategic bombing will do the rest.

We need this territory to have a bargaining chip against Assad after the war. What would be the best case scenario is that we team up against the YPG after IS is defeated, and that we will give the Syrian territory back to Syria on our own conditions. This will give Turkey a strong seat around the table.

 

[Mucahit]

We need this territory to have a bargaining chip against Assad after the war. What would be the best case scenario is that we team up against the YPG after IS is defeated, and that we will give the Syrian territory back to Syria on our own conditions. This will give Turkey a strong seat around the table.

Best thing to do right now is to take Tel-Rıfat and besiege Afrin city.

 

[what]

We need this territory to have a bargaining chip against Assad after the war. What would be the best case scenario is that we team up against the YPG after IS is defeated, and that we will give the Syrian territory back to Syria on our own conditions. This will give Turkey a strong seat around the table.

We do have northern Aleppo, the ES controlled area.

 

[TheMightyBender]

We do have northern Aleppo, the ES controlled area.

the more the merrier

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

What do you accomplish by occupying a territory that is hostile to you?

Get back Tel Rifaat and then some. Strategic bombing will do the rest.

Edit: Taking Tel Rifaat wont stop hevals ambitions to join the cantons or reach the sea, they will use SAA area & they will still have the HQ and make propaganda everyday that the "fosik Turkler is starving innocent villagers and donkeys".

Afrin is practically surrounded, first cut them off from SAA and connect ES to Idlib, then take Afrin.

Plus our proxies will be happy to "solve" and hostilities Middle Eastern style.

ES Northern Syria is practically a part of Turkey now the population is pro Turkey, I dont see Idlib forming its own state or surviving on its own, to small, will be interesting to see what happens if Syria gets partitioned.

 

[KingWest]

Edit: Taking Tel Rifaat wont stop hevals ambitions to join the cantons or reach the sea, they will use SAA area & they will still have the HQ and make propaganda everyday that the "fosik Turkler is starving innocent villagers and donkeys".

Afrin is practically surrounded, first cut them off from SAA and connect ES to Idlib, then take Afrin.

Plus our proxies will be happy to "solve" and hostilities Middle Eastern style.

ES Northern Syria is practically a part of Turkey now the population is pro Turkey, I dont see Idlib forming its own state or surviving on its own, to small, will be interesting to see what happens if Syria gets partitioned.

Best case is connecting the Idlib province with the area from Euphrates Shield. This way, we can support rebel groups better, and have more negotiating power after the conflict + the terror problem from Afrin will be solved.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Best case is connecting the Idlib province with the area from Euphrates Shield. This way, we can support rebel groups better, and have more negotiating power after the conflict + the terror problem from Afrin will be solved.

Do you think the area of ES will join Turkey (Like Hatay) or will it be a Northern Cyprus 2.0

What about Idlib, what do you see happening there.

 

[Glass]

We need this territory to have a bargaining chip against Assad after the war. What would be the best case scenario is that we team up against the YPG after IS is defeated, and that we will give the Syrian territory back to Syria on our own conditions. This will give Turkey a strong seat around the table.

^this. I think the russians will try to get the US,Saudi proxys out of idlib and then start negotiations in astana. Our main priority is to keep syria as a whole without the PKK there not partition.

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I think there will be 2 waves in afrin the first one is tel rifat and menagh airbase and the 2nd would be afrin.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Best case is connecting the Idlib province with the area from Euphrates Shield. This way, we can support rebel groups better, and have more negotiating power after the conflict + the terror problem from Afrin will be solved.

Won't happen until Turkey, Russia and Iran have agreed to create "zones of influence" like the allied forces did with Germany after WWII. Having sad that, right now Moscow, Ankara and Tehran are negotiating the future boundaries for those areas - without including Saudi Arabia and UAE.

 

[TheMightyBender]

https://twitter.com/x/status/877285893152927745

https://twitter.com/x/status/880105692367138817

https://twitter.com/x/status/877173794611367937

does anybody know anything about this shahed downing by Turkey?

 

[KingWest]

Do you think the area of ES will join Turkey (Like Hatay) or will it be a Northern Cyprus 2.0

What about Idlib, what do you see happening there.

I think in the short term. Turkey and Russia and Assad and Iran will work together against the YPG after the IS threat is over. This is because non of those countries can live with a Kurdish state in Syria.

In the long term, Turkey and the others will agree that Turkey gives the territory back to Syria in exchange for Assad to step down. Now, Assad will probably agree to step down under the pressure, but a close relative/friend of Assad will come in power instead. This will be a symbolic victory for Turkiye and the FSA, and Assad can live a good life in the future.

These days we can be sure that Assad will never step down otherwise, since he is clearly winning the war thanks to Russia and Iran. The US can only support the YPG till a certain point. The YPG can not "liberate" the country from Assad since they can only operate in regions with a minimum Kurdish presence.

When IS is finished, a whole other game wil start. The US and coalition will lose their credibility to wage a war in Syria, and the actors will be fighting more directly with each other. Turkey will be forced to side with Russia and Iran, because the US will keep supporting the YPG

Won't happen until Turkey, Russia and Iran have agreed to create "zones of influence" like the allied forces did with Germany after WWII. Having sad that, right now Moscow, Ankara and Tehran are negotiating the future boundaries for those areas - without including Saudi Arabia and UAE.

This will all happen natural. Like you said, Turkey Russia and Iran are already working together without the US and others. It will not happen immediately, but in the long term.

 

[Yellow-place]

Russians left Afrin.
USA shut down the GPS signals at region.
TSK gave two days two villagers to leave their home. (yesterday)

 

[Glass]

no russians still in afrin

https://twitter.com/x/status/880554079310811136