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My dear friend, Iran helped Pakistan during the Indo-Pakistani war.

Thats why I personally have a soft-spot for the Shah of Iran ! I'm sorry if that offends you as an Iranian...he did some bad things to you guys but he was always a very good friend of Pakistan & for that I respect him.
 
Thats why I personally have a soft-spot for the Shah of Iran ! I'm sorry if that offends you as an Iranian...he did some bad things to you guys but he was always a very good friend of Pakistan & for that I respect him.

I can understand that. And If I have to choose between the Shah or the current regime I will also choose for him without a doubt.
 
Iran was a modern country in Shah's time...

"Islamic" regime have failed big time.
 
Iran was a modern country in Shah's time...

"Islamic" regime have failed big time.

But this regime is a good lesson for the Iranian people. Now we are certain that never again the Iranians will fall for the lies of the Ayatollahs.
 
I agree, if our leaders at the time had vision and balls we could have maybe got some from Pakistan.
Yes, it makes sense that Pakitan can give nuke to any muslim country for its more affiliation with muslim world, but USA or any other country possessing so can't rely on muslim world...

It's in good favor that many muslim country should have the same, the way we muslims are targeted on the planet...

But as long as they must not be used to threat a muslim country to other muslim country in any way... :(
 
Thats why I personally have a soft-spot for the Shah of Iran ! I'm sorry if that offends you as an Iranian...he did some bad things to you guys but he was always a very good friend of Pakistan & for that I respect him.

yes, like we also got many politician who has been bad to our own country and people... :(
 
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cozy as well as thankless, if you ask one irani that how pakistan helped iran in its nuclear endeavour, they will simply ignore it, curse AQ khan to be a liar, and esp considering how they violated our borders to come and kill innocent pakistanis, how their boder forces are trigger happy in our border etc

pakistan earned bad reputation in the world for nothing for helping so called 'islamic countries'
Exactly, i'm tired of this 'muslim brotherhood' bull$hit, it constantly hurts Pakistan's interests, its people and it always ends up getting back stabbed. These tough times have made us recognize who our real friends and real enemies are, (p.s i dont hold any grudges towards anyone, i love Turkey and Iran both :cheers:)
 
Exactly, i'm tired of this 'muslim brotherhood' bull$hit, it constantly hurts Pakistan's interests, its people and it always ends up getting back stabbed. These tough times have made us recognize who our real friends and real enemies are, (p.s i dont hold any grudges towards anyone, i love Turkey and Iran both :cheers:)

2days muslim world is race based that a major problem
 
You have no idea about whats going in Turkey.

Everybody was going good, go back to your section.
 
Only if Legionaire promises to do a bhangra dance on Punjabi music broadcasted live on TV whilst hes buttt naked ! :D

On a serious note - We've bitten by the Muslim Brotherhood in this context & we've got a big boil on our arse to show for it ! This time around we're never going to pass on this technology if we're dead sure that the other country won't sell us out like the Iranians & the Libyans did ! But if there is one country I can trust not to do it, its probably Turkey !

Dostlar beni hatir lasin (is that how it goes :undecided: ?)



Libya–Pakistan relations



Libya-Pakistan relations refers to the bilateral and diplomatic relations between Libya and Pakistan. The relationship has been friendly throughout its history. Both countries share religious and cultural links, particularly their Islamic heritage.

Bhutto's ties with Colonel Gaddafi

The early 1970s were the first time the Pakistani populace began to notice Muammar Gaddafi. Gaddafi gave a speech at the Organisation of the Islamic Conference meeting, where he declared support for Pakistan to pursue development of nuclear weapons, an issue which had been made a hot-topic by the United States. When he came to Pakistan to attend the second Islamic Summit Conference in 1974, he stated, "Pakistan is the fort of Islam."

Because of Gaddafi's support for Pakistan's nuclear detterence program, he became a popular figure within the country. Gaddafi cricket stadium in Lahore, the largest in the country, was named after him. However, after success of Operation Fair Play — code-name for the coup d'état conducted at midnight on July 4, 1977 by the Pakistan Army led by Chief of Army Staff General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq against the democratic civilian government of then-Pakistan Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, the ties periodically strained. In 1978, Pakistan's ISI immediately cut its ties with Libya.


Post Bhutto era

After the removal of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, the ties with Pakistan severed. General Zia hated and distrusted Colonel Gaddafi, therefore he immediately cut all the military aid to Libya. Libya hosted and trained militants and dissidents of Al-Zulfiqar which was established by Bhutto's children. However the plan was thwarted by the ISI when it had discovered and placed a mole in the Libyan embassy.

The ties were restored by Benazir Bhutto when she became country's first female Prime minister after she secured the mandate during the 1988 parliamentary elections. The ties continued until Benazir Bhutto was removed from power after amid corruption charges. The new coming Prime minister Navaz Sharif was sworned as the Prime minister after the parliamentary elections, 1990, and the new Prime minister soon paid a state visit to Libya. In 1991, Sharif visit and met with Gaddafi. Gaddafi traditionally opposed Sharif's Western conservatism, and during the meeting, Gaddafi demanded Sharif to sell him a nuclear bomb as Gaddafi suspected that Pakistan had developed years later. Sharif refused Gaddafi's demand and urged him to continue the economical relations with Pakistan. Gaddafi insulted the Prime minister and labeled him as "Corrupt politician", which dismayed and insulted the Prime minister. The Prime minister's delegation members and journalists were initially shocked and troubled with Gaddafi's attitude. Therefore, Sharif cancelled the talks and immediately returning to Pakistan and soon expelled Libyan Ambassador.

In 2001, Pakistan via ISI, passed intelligence about the Gulf States and the nuclear ambitions of Iran and Libya, whose programs Pakistani scientists had helped to build. Pakistan began providing details of Libyan nuclear programme to Israel's Mossad. These evidence were made public by the United States but concealed the names of sources.

The Bilateral Relationship

Pakistan received economic assistance from Libya in the 1970s, aiding in the country's recovery after the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. More recently, Libya has provided assistance to Pakistan to fight against floods, infections, disease, and other natural calamities in Pakistan.
In 1976, The Libyan Central Bank provided a loan of US $50 million to the Habib Bank of Pakistan as a form of aid. In the same year, an economic and cultural agreement was also signed, in which a combined shipping company was established.
There are around 30,000 Pakistanis who are residents of Libya. In 2009, the Pakistani government pledged to send 50,000 skilled workers to Libya by the end of the year under a Memorandum of Understanding signed between the two countries during a visit of the President of Pakistan to Libya.
 
In my opinion only 2 countries in the Muslim world are eligible for having Nukes.

- Saudi Arabia

-Turkey
 
I have heard this like 55565 times, it's weird that our Pakistani brothers tend only to remember the little they gave and totally forget the substantial assistance they got and still getting from Muslim countries. They even blame them for their shortcomings. Throughout history, countries used to exchange knowledge and help eachother, but when it comes to Pakistan it becomes so special and even a sacrifice for Muslim Ummah, given that what Muslims got from non Muslim, Eastern and Western countries, from tech, training and equipment exceed what Muslims helped each other with, put all together. Pakistani Nuclear program was financed by mainly by KSA, and when Pakistan was under sanctions, they didn't find any assistance but from Arab and some Muslim countries, and the irony is that they still get it as we are speaking and still ignored. Yah, what a brotherhood!:disagree:
 
I have heard this like 55565 times, it's weird that our Pakistani brothers tent only to remember the little they gave and totally forget the substantial assistance they got and still getting from Muslim countries. They even blame them for their shortcomings. Throughout history, countries used to exchange knowledge and help eachother, but when it comes to Pakistan it becomes so special and even a sacrifice for Muslim Ummah, given that what Muslims got from non Muslim, Eastern and Western countries, from tech, training and equipment exceed what Muslims helped each other with, put all together. Pakistani Nuclear program was financed by mainly by KSA, and when Pakistan was under sanctions, they didn't find any assistance but from Arab and some Muslim countries, and irony is that they still get it as are speaking and still ignored. Yah, what a brotherhood!:disagree:

KSA did help alot we gota give it when its due , KSA and Turkey helped one of the most in the floods aswell , KSA gave alottttt of money to help , we provided some money and alot of resources , trains , like so many trucks and even after floods , KSA helps alot most of the times but its unseen and other gulf countries but i dont know specifically , but also Pakistan helps whatever it can most of the time aswell . Everyone is trying to help with what it has.
 
The NATO nuclear weapon sharing is useless for turkey as use of these war heads need US permission. The west still sees u as a muslim country which u are (even though secular Turks here may disagree). Do turks here really believe that they can use their NATO controlled weapons in a confrontation with Israel? Turkey must gain a defacto nuclear weapons capability like JAPAN under the guise of civilian nuclear programme.
 

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