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Turkish Newspaper Yeni Akit Calls Orlando Shooting Victims ‘Perverts’

Werent they perverts? Today we are being asked to homosexuality. Its just like someone ask to accept having sex without marriage as a norm in our society. What is against our teaching and values will remain so. But killing in any case is not acceptable.
 
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There is also incest in the animal world... that doesn't make sleeping with your mother as a human OK.
If the animals do not see it as 'wrong', why should you see homosexuality as 'wrong' ? :lol:

Incest may produce genetically undesirable offsprings, but that is sex between a male and a female. With homosexuality, there can be no offsprings, so why should two men or two women boinking each other bothers you ? Am willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that if two women invite you to a three-some, homosexuality would not bother you one bit. :enjoy:
 
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Giving an Islamic newspaper example as everybody agree with that is just beyond stupidity. I suggest you to get socialise, find a boyfriend, have a date instead of spending your time on google pages by searching any kind of negativity about Turkey... And leave our views and lifestyle to us Turks which none of your business.

Oh, I have found this for you, give it a try.
http://www.kuwaitdatingsite.com/

Wanna learn my view on this? I am not a homophobic, I have gay friends, cool guys, what they are doing on the bed is their privacy, their life, their choice and no one should be killed for this. But if they start doing this in the public, it damages our values and I would stand against it. This is the same everywhere in the world, not about Islamic or Christian view. Humans have rules for some reason , shitting on the streets is wrong, right? There are WCs for this. They should respect common values and people start to respect their choices. This is how it works.



What's the defination of being westerner in your dictionary ?

you are a westerner when you have values and stand on the side of reason and science.

Werent they perverts? Today we are being asked to homosexuality. Its just like someone ask to accept having sex without marriage as a norm in our society. What is against our teaching and values will remain so. But killing in any case is not acceptable.

well in most western cultures its seen as kinda pervert to marry cousens. Even the slightest form of this incest is bound with heavy stigma. In pakistan its totally normal. Many in the west bring this up as something incetious and call it degeneration. Another thing totally normal in pakistan is to marry a girl that is still a child. Something totally alien in the west.
 
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Giving an Islamic newspaper example as everybody agree with that is just beyond stupidity. I suggest you to get socialise, find a boyfriend, have a date instead of spending your time on google pages by searching any kind of negativity about Turkey... And leave our views and lifestyle to us Turks which none of your business.

Oh, I have found this for you, give it a try.
http://www.kuwaitdatingsite.com/

Wanna learn my view on this? I am not a homophobic, I have gay friends, cool guys, what they are doing on the bed is their privacy, their life, their choice and no one should be killed for this. But if they start doing this in the public, it damages our values and I would stand against it. This is the same everywhere in the world, not about Islamic or Christian view. Humans have rules for some reason , shitting on the streets is wrong, right? There are WCs for this. They should respect common values and people start to respect their choices. This is how it works.



What's the defination of being westerner in your dictionary ?
Did you seriously try to equate homosexuality (which is a natural phenomenon) with people "shitting in the street"? :rolleyes:

well in most western cultures its seen as kinda pervert to marry cousens. Even the slightest form of this incest is bound with heavy stigma. In pakistan its totally normal. Many in the west bring this up as something incetious and call it degeneration. Another thing totally normal in pakistan is to marry a girl that is still a child. Something totally alien in the west.
Exactly! And speaking of which, would the Pakistan members who commented in this thread like it if an American/Western newspaper decides to refer to Pakistani victims of US drone strikes as "inbreds", "pedophiles", or "perverts"?

Of course they wouldn't like it. In fact, they'd consider it to be very hateful and demeaning, and rightly so.

I really don't understand why some members around here, particularly the Pakistani members, are trying to defend the bigoted behavior of this Turkish newspaper. I could only think of 2 reasons:

1. They're probably trying to suck up to the Turks, which is a big mistake, in my opinion, because this kind of institutionalized Turkish bigotry is not only harmful towards local homosexuals but is also harmful towards the many Pakistani migrants who are currently living in (or passing through) Turkey.

2. They're most likely homophobic themselves and, thereby, couldn't care less about hateful messages being spouted against the LGBT community. This is equally bad because I hope the members around here realize that their silence towards bigotry, particularly outside this forum, actually gives bigoted people in their communities all the more reason to target them as well.

Whichever way you look at it, there's really no excuse for this level of bigotry, nor is there any excuse for being apologetic towards it -- and all it does is make the Muslim-majority countries look bad in the eyes of the rest of the world, including in the eyes of emerging powers in the Far East, such as China.

Again, I must reemphasize that this isn't about the Orlando terrorist attack. This is about the level of bigotry that takes place in this part of the world (i.e. the Middle East) and how it goes largely unchallenged. Notice how none of the Turks have condemned this hateful newspaper so far. Opposing homosexuality is one thing, but making excuses for bigotry is another thing altogether.
 
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Did you seriously try to equate homosexuality (which is a natural phenomenon) with people "shitting in the street"? :rolleyes:

Nope, read my post again. I mean the acts of homosexuality shouldn't cross the line of general value levels which is a " choice ".

you are a westerner when you have values and stand on the side of reason and science.

Then you are no westerner bud.
 
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That's exactly my point, you muppet.

The Turks don't care about tackling bigotry in their own country. They celebrate it rather than condemn it.

You see, this isn't about homosexuals. This isn't about the Orlando terrorist attack.

This is about bigotry in Turkish society, and it can be in any shape or form.

Bigotry in Turkey has also affected your own people (i.e. the Pakistani people), especially the migrants. Google it.

The Turks on PDF are in denial about what's going on in their country.

Notice that not even ultra-conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia have made these kinds of despicable comments.
why are you so hyped by the death of those homos do they say the same when our people are killed?
 
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why are you so hyped by the death of those homos do they say the same when our people are killed?
As a matter of fact, they do.

The LGBT community has stood up for the rights of Muslims in Western countries more than any other socio-political group!

The idiot who attacked them in Orlando, as well as the idiots who mocked their deaths, are going to end up making the Muslims of the West lose their best social justice allies.
 
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As a matter of fact, they do.

The LGBT community has stood up for the rights of Muslims in Western countries more than any other socio-political group!

The idiot who attacked them in Orlando, as well as the idiots who mocked their deaths, are going to end up making the Muslims of the West lose their best social justice allies.
yeah where i never heard of any news like that
 
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Nope, read my post again. I mean the acts of homosexuality shouldn't cross the line of general value levels which is a " choice ".



Then you are no westerner bud.


Im because i follow the roman values.

btw psychology says that evry anti gay is a hidden homo. The stigma is burned into their soul and selfhate leads to their remarks.

I would love to look into their "hard" drive ha ha ha ha
 
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Im because i follow the roman values.

So what, everybody has values to follow. Roman values don't make you any better with your high level of racism, hatred and arrogance so you are no different than any other narrow-minded mid-age European tribes.
 
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So what, everybody has values to follow. Roman values don't make you any better with your high level of racism, hatred and arrogance so you are no different than any other narrow-minded mid-age European tribes.

I´m not racist. I´m elitist. I have highest respect for other races who reached our status as well. Like Japan, Korea or China.

I also wonder where you see hatred?
 
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I´m not racist. I´m elitist. I have highest respect for other races who reached our status as well. Like Japan, Korea or China.

I also wonder where you see hatred?

You don't like Muslims for example, you humiliate Syrians. And your description is no different than racism. You can't mock up meanings as you wish. You are an arrogant fascist racist, you are no different than Hitler or Mussolini's mindset.
 
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You don't like Muslims for example, you humiliate Syrians. And your description is no different than racism. You can't mock up meanings as you wish. You are an arrogant fascist racist, you are no different than Hitler or Mussolini's mindset.

You have a problem with a patriotic italian who places his nation above others? :)
 
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I kinda like Italians my problem is with arrogant racists who claims being civilised and above other humans.


I dont see myself above. I see us in a position where we can gain profits by exploiting the ones who are retarded. Weakness must be used.
 
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