FutureMe
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Nov 10, 2014
- Messages
- 533
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
I remember seeing a 3.2kN missile turbofan. With the new vision it is more like a given.
Turkish Engine Programs
- Thread starter Aegis DDG
- Start date
I remember seeing a 3.2kN missile turbofan. With the new vision it is more like a given.
-SINAN-
BANNED
- Joined
- Feb 22, 2013
- Messages
- 16,746
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
You are talking about this one...i believe 3.1kn TurboFan will be made by KaleAero.
And this time table is for 10 years.... i wonder how the time table for 20 years looks like.
FutureMe
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Nov 10, 2014
- Messages
- 533
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
I reckon it should include a turbofan for a twin engine fighter or a major step in that direction. Considering how ATAK sales will be affected by engine availability. I can imagine that the new roadmap will target a position for Turkey at the end of the two decades ahead comparable to how France is now in all departments of aviation.
xxxKULxxx
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2013
- Messages
- 4,504
- Reaction score
- 30
- Country
- Location
Here is new TEI logo... Well, i didn't like it... I love simple & modern logos...
Source: Page 7 Publication Name: TEI Post Sayi 127
Opppss... Sorry... New logo is this one.... And i loved it, very good...
Source: Page 9
Source: Page 7 Publication Name: TEI Post Sayi 127
Opppss... Sorry... New logo is this one.... And i loved it, very good...
Source: Page 9
Kamil_baku
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Mar 16, 2014
- Messages
- 2,648
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
UKRAINE-TURKEY: NEW STAGE OF COOPERATION
Ukrainian and Turkish defense industry launch new joint projects, particularly in the aerospace, aircraft and armored areas. The relevant agreements reached in the framework of the visit the delegation of Ukraine headed by Deputy National Security Council Secretary Oleg Hladkovskym, Deputy Director General of the State Concern "Ukroboronprom" Sergei Pinkasom and Deputy Director General of Foreign Economic Activity Group Denis Hurakom to Turkey on April 8-9, 2015.
Now enterprises rocket and space and defense industries Ukraine will take part in the creation of the Turkish national missile system. In particular the Turkish side was proposed to issue a single project framework contract, which define enterprise "Ukroboronprom" and the State Space Agency of Ukraine, which will attract to the project. Subsequently, all technical and organizational aspects governed by additional agreements.
Ukraine and Turkey have agreed on the joint development and production of turbojet engines and other aircraft, so it resulted in a joint venture "ZMKB" Progress "them. Academician O.H.Ivchenka "with« Turkish Engine Industries ». Ukrainian enterprises armored operators can join the program create a national Turkish dance "Altay" jointly develop, produce and upgrade armored vehicles and other equipment with Turkish companies.
In addition, the Ukrainian defense industry companies have offered to contribute to the development and manufacture of radar, communications and navigation. The meeting was the Memorandum of Understanding signed by the delegations of the two countries. Recall that on July 4, 2014 "Ukroboronprom" led Roman Romanov. As a result of six months of its deep concern began cooperation with defense enterprises NATO countries. During the period from July to December 2014 in the list of international partners group added 20 new countries.
Ukrainian and Turkish defense industry launch new joint projects, particularly in the aerospace, aircraft and armored areas. The relevant agreements reached in the framework of the visit the delegation of Ukraine headed by Deputy National Security Council Secretary Oleg Hladkovskym, Deputy Director General of the State Concern "Ukroboronprom" Sergei Pinkasom and Deputy Director General of Foreign Economic Activity Group Denis Hurakom to Turkey on April 8-9, 2015.
Now enterprises rocket and space and defense industries Ukraine will take part in the creation of the Turkish national missile system. In particular the Turkish side was proposed to issue a single project framework contract, which define enterprise "Ukroboronprom" and the State Space Agency of Ukraine, which will attract to the project. Subsequently, all technical and organizational aspects governed by additional agreements.
Ukraine and Turkey have agreed on the joint development and production of turbojet engines and other aircraft, so it resulted in a joint venture "ZMKB" Progress "them. Academician O.H.Ivchenka "with« Turkish Engine Industries ». Ukrainian enterprises armored operators can join the program create a national Turkish dance "Altay" jointly develop, produce and upgrade armored vehicles and other equipment with Turkish companies.
In addition, the Ukrainian defense industry companies have offered to contribute to the development and manufacture of radar, communications and navigation. The meeting was the Memorandum of Understanding signed by the delegations of the two countries. Recall that on July 4, 2014 "Ukroboronprom" led Roman Romanov. As a result of six months of its deep concern began cooperation with defense enterprises NATO countries. During the period from July to December 2014 in the list of international partners group added 20 new countries.
monitor
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2007
- Messages
- 8,570
- Reaction score
- 7
- Country
- Location
Turks Seek Indigenous Engine Technology
By Burak Ege Bekdil3:09 p.m. EDT April 18, 2015
14TWEET 5LINKEDINCOMMENTEMAILMORE
ANKARA — Most Turkish programs in recent years have gone with the priority tag of "indigenous."
Yet all of the indigenous programs, whether naval, ground or air, lacked an indigenous engine. Turkey is now trying to earn the technology to build one.
"Locally developed engines inevitably will be an important part of Turkish procurement strategy in the years ahead," one senior procurement official said. "The idea is to buy know-how [from foreign firms] and localize it over the course of time. We aim at 100 percent Turkish engines for future platforms of all sorts."
Another procurement official specializing in engine programs said a recent study found that Turkey could earn fully indigenous engine technology in the next five to 10 years if it fully implements a proposed roadmap.
"Perhaps we should have launched this effort years ago. Better late than never," the official said. "Each day without a solid national engine program would expose indigenous platform programs to the risk of further delays."
Parallel efforts by one state-controlled and two privately owned companies to build indigenous engines are underway.
Tusas Turkish Engine Industries (TEI), a government-controlled engine maker, has devised a 20-year roadmap for the design, development and manufacture of a local aircraft engine, company officials said. TEI hopes its indigenous engine will power the TF-X, the indigenous Turkish fighter jet to be developed.
In March, TUMOSAN, a privately owned Turkish engine maker, signed a €190 million (US $203 million) contract with the government to design and develop an indigenous engine for the Altay, a new-generation tank the country has been developing.
TUMOSAN's Power Group Development program signed the contract with the country's procurement office, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM). In August, Turkey's top procurement panel, the Defense Industry Executive Committee, tasked SSM with opening contract negotiations with TUMOSAN.
The program involves the indigenous design, development, prototype production, testing and qualification of an engine for the Altay.
Under the plan, TUMOSAN also will design and develop a transmission for the Turkish tank and produce critical parts for its engine, including the diesel pump, electronic control unit and injector.
TUMOSAN said it aims to conclude the program within 54 months and "with maximum possible local content." It said it will obtain foreign know-how when necessary. TUMOSAN hopes that it will also develop variants of the planned engine for other land and naval platforms.
TUMOSAN, founded in 1975, is a diesel engine and tractor manufacturer. It produces 75,000 diesel engines annually.
The deal came as Turkey's procurement authorities were preparing to launch a multibillion-dollar competition for 1,000 Altays. The race for the serial production will involve an initial batch of 250 tanks to be followed by three orders, each comprising 250 more tanks.
"This [program] will end Turkey's dependency on engines for military vehicles," said Kurtulus Ogun, TUMOSAN's general manager.
Ending dependency on imported engines for locally built platforms is the emerging Turkish ambition.
Kale, a privately owned Turkish defense company, has said it completed the design phase of an engine it is developing for the SOM turbo-jet cruise missiles. Kale has pledged to deliver the first engine for the SOM in April 2016.
"Turkey imports each SOM engine at $150,000 to $200,000," Kale's chief technician Osman Okyay said. "Our program will end engine imports for the SOM. We will then start exporting the engine."
SOM is a next-generation high-precision cruise missile that can be launched from land, sea and air platforms. It was developed by TUBITAK SAGE, a state-run defense research and development institute. SOM was showcased in 2011 after five years of development work. It has a range of 180 to 200 kilometers.
Okyay said that upon President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's orders, Kale will develop an engine for SOM with a range of up to 1,000 kilometers. Kale's work will make the basis for the indigenous engine Turkey hopes to develop for the TF-X.
Kale is engine-maker Pratt & Whitney's Turkish partner. Last June, the two companies inaugurated a $75 million plant in Turkey for the production of critical engine parts for the F-35. Pratt & Whitney has a 51 percent share in the joint venture while the Turkish company holds the remaining 49 percent.
Email: bbekdil@defensenews.com
By Burak Ege Bekdil3:09 p.m. EDT April 18, 2015
14TWEET 5LINKEDINCOMMENTEMAILMORE
ANKARA — Most Turkish programs in recent years have gone with the priority tag of "indigenous."
Yet all of the indigenous programs, whether naval, ground or air, lacked an indigenous engine. Turkey is now trying to earn the technology to build one.
"Locally developed engines inevitably will be an important part of Turkish procurement strategy in the years ahead," one senior procurement official said. "The idea is to buy know-how [from foreign firms] and localize it over the course of time. We aim at 100 percent Turkish engines for future platforms of all sorts."
Another procurement official specializing in engine programs said a recent study found that Turkey could earn fully indigenous engine technology in the next five to 10 years if it fully implements a proposed roadmap.
"Perhaps we should have launched this effort years ago. Better late than never," the official said. "Each day without a solid national engine program would expose indigenous platform programs to the risk of further delays."
Parallel efforts by one state-controlled and two privately owned companies to build indigenous engines are underway.
Tusas Turkish Engine Industries (TEI), a government-controlled engine maker, has devised a 20-year roadmap for the design, development and manufacture of a local aircraft engine, company officials said. TEI hopes its indigenous engine will power the TF-X, the indigenous Turkish fighter jet to be developed.
In March, TUMOSAN, a privately owned Turkish engine maker, signed a €190 million (US $203 million) contract with the government to design and develop an indigenous engine for the Altay, a new-generation tank the country has been developing.
TUMOSAN's Power Group Development program signed the contract with the country's procurement office, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM). In August, Turkey's top procurement panel, the Defense Industry Executive Committee, tasked SSM with opening contract negotiations with TUMOSAN.
The program involves the indigenous design, development, prototype production, testing and qualification of an engine for the Altay.
Under the plan, TUMOSAN also will design and develop a transmission for the Turkish tank and produce critical parts for its engine, including the diesel pump, electronic control unit and injector.
TUMOSAN said it aims to conclude the program within 54 months and "with maximum possible local content." It said it will obtain foreign know-how when necessary. TUMOSAN hopes that it will also develop variants of the planned engine for other land and naval platforms.
TUMOSAN, founded in 1975, is a diesel engine and tractor manufacturer. It produces 75,000 diesel engines annually.
The deal came as Turkey's procurement authorities were preparing to launch a multibillion-dollar competition for 1,000 Altays. The race for the serial production will involve an initial batch of 250 tanks to be followed by three orders, each comprising 250 more tanks.
"This [program] will end Turkey's dependency on engines for military vehicles," said Kurtulus Ogun, TUMOSAN's general manager.
Ending dependency on imported engines for locally built platforms is the emerging Turkish ambition.
Kale, a privately owned Turkish defense company, has said it completed the design phase of an engine it is developing for the SOM turbo-jet cruise missiles. Kale has pledged to deliver the first engine for the SOM in April 2016.
"Turkey imports each SOM engine at $150,000 to $200,000," Kale's chief technician Osman Okyay said. "Our program will end engine imports for the SOM. We will then start exporting the engine."
SOM is a next-generation high-precision cruise missile that can be launched from land, sea and air platforms. It was developed by TUBITAK SAGE, a state-run defense research and development institute. SOM was showcased in 2011 after five years of development work. It has a range of 180 to 200 kilometers.
Okyay said that upon President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's orders, Kale will develop an engine for SOM with a range of up to 1,000 kilometers. Kale's work will make the basis for the indigenous engine Turkey hopes to develop for the TF-X.
Kale is engine-maker Pratt & Whitney's Turkish partner. Last June, the two companies inaugurated a $75 million plant in Turkey for the production of critical engine parts for the F-35. Pratt & Whitney has a 51 percent share in the joint venture while the Turkish company holds the remaining 49 percent.
Email: bbekdil@defensenews.com
FutureMe
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Nov 10, 2014
- Messages
- 533
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
I have been saying this all along, just lacking the official position to realise it.
monitor
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2007
- Messages
- 8,570
- Reaction score
- 7
- Country
- Location
TheGrim
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 27, 2015
- Messages
- 330
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
So can it be that our Republic is slowly switching from the Chinese deal to a joint production venture with the Ukranians concerning a national missile defense shield? I hope that this is the case. Ukrainian scientists and engineers have troves of knowledge that we can learn from.
Casus Belli
PDF THINK TANK: ANALYST
- Joined
- Jun 2, 2013
- Messages
- 393
- Reaction score
- 11
- Country
- Location
xxxKULxxx
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2013
- Messages
- 4,504
- Reaction score
- 30
- Country
- Location
Kamil_baku
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Mar 16, 2014
- Messages
- 2,648
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
xxxKULxxx
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2013
- Messages
- 4,504
- Reaction score
- 30
- Country
- Location
Similar threads
