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Objective is not to enter Arbil though, if they really wanted that they could use the air force and speed it up. It seems like Baghdad is trying to get the KRG to back down but they're not, therefor this keeps going on and the ISF keeps going further north.

They're going to ChamChamal as well

LOL

Those idiots in the peshmerga should just stop firing if they want to keep some land.

Now that they're that far north they might as well go to Dukan lake to cut off the PUK from the KDP. As well as cut off YPG from KDP.

No friends but the mountains, even though we refuse to listen to our friends.
 
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Very good! Keep up the good work.

Some sources are saying that Kustepe is under ISF and PMU control. The distance between Kustepe and Erbil is 20km. Some sources are saying that ISF and PMU is going for Suleymaniye to.
Check your sources again. PMU/Shia militias are cooperating with Talabani's PUK Peshmerga. They are letting the Iraqi army pass towards Chamchamal. I suppose that PUK wants to cut off KDP from PUK territory. In other words: the Iraqis are using the enmity between KDP and PUK to make some major advancements. They will never dare to attack Suleymaniye neither are they going to change the federal system of Iraq which is a burden in my eyes.

It is just a matter of time until Barzani blames everything on Talabani/PUK.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdish_Civil_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1994_PUK–KDP_clashes
 
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Objective is not to enter Arbil though, if they really wanted that they could use the air force and speed it up. It seems like Baghdad is trying to get the KRG to back down but they're not, therefor this keeps going on and the ISF keeps going further north.

They're going to ChamChamal as well

LOL

Those idiots in the peshmerga should just stop firing if they want to keep some land.

Now that they're that far north they might as well go to Dukan lake to cut off the PUK from the KDP. As well as cut off YPG from KDP.

No friends but the mountains, even though we refuse to listen to our friends.
You must cut YPG and KDP for sure and take control over the Turkish border.
 
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Check your sources again. PMU/Shia militias are cooperating with Talabani's PUK Peshmerga. They are letting the Iraqi army pass towards Chamchamal. I suppose that PUK wants to cut off KDP from PUK territory. In other words: the Iraqis are using the enmity between KDP and PUK to make some major advancements. They will never dare to attack Suleymaniye neither are they going to change the federal system of Iraq which is a burden in my eyes.

It is just a matter of time until Barzani blames everything on Talabani/PUK.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdish_Civil_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1994_PUK–KDP_clashes

Militarily both Suleymaniyah and Arbil can be taken, nowhere as hard as the battles fought against IS in Mosul, Fallujah and Ramadi.

Never dare is the wrong word, Peshmerga are a joke whom are fighting battle hardened troops that faced IS on a large scale. You would be right to say though that it's unlikely to happen, they won't get orders to go into these cities, and maybe that's good. Who wants cities where everyone hates you anyway?

Suleymaniyah should not be taken, Arbil.. would be nice to remove tarzanis clan but I don't care about it either.
 
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Check your sources again. PMU/Shia militias are cooperating with Talabani's PUK Peshmerga. They are letting the Iraqi army pass towards Chamchamal. I suppose that PUK wants to cut off KDP from PUK territory. In other words: the Iraqis are using the enmity between KDP and PUK to make some major advancements. They will never dare to attack Suleymaniye neither are they going to change the federal system of Iraq which is a burden in my eyes.

It is just a matter of time until Barzani blames everything on Talabani/PUK.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdish_Civil_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1994_PUK–KDP_clashes
Why not? Its not good KDP and PUK to be separated? The offensive is not PMU let. Its initiative of the Iraqi Army and Abadi. I am not sure why are you so mad at the situation there. I have the feeling that you want us to support them till they start to agitate for Kurdistan in Turkey.

 
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You must cut YPG and KDP for sure and take control over the Turkish border.
Yes, of course, I'm not disagreeing with you on this matter. No sane Turkish person would object this plan. I'm just trying to explain that the ground realities aren't as simple as many people think.

Why not? Its not good KDP and PUK to be separated? The offensive is not PMU let. Its initiative of the Iraqi Army and Abadi. I am not sure why are you so mad at the situation there. I have the feeling that you want us to support them till they start to agitate for Kurdistan in Turkey.

The operation is led by Iranians. That's a matter of fact and I am not going to discuss this with anybody anymore. This isnt a bad thing for Turkey, in fact, right now it's the best thing that could happen to Iraq. It's just important to know this truth. It could be of relevance in the future. That's all I wanted to say, I'm not opposing the current development within Iraq. Just don't forget: 3 years ago Iraq was on the losing side and since then things have changed rapidly. The current situation of Iraq can change again. Believe it or not, thus, raising awareness is right, not wrong.

All this talk about the mighty Iraqi Army is bullshit btw. Like I said before, the existing conflict within the Kurdish community in Northern Iraq was the key element for the success of the last days. However, even Iran is not cutting its relationship with Puk regardless of the current conflict. We must support Iraq but throwing away Barzani's telephone number is simply wrong.

The simplistic approach of many Turks here is disgusting. Geopolitics is complicated. And for the first time I can see that Mr. Erdoğan has learned some lessons. He's supporting the central government of Iraq but is only restricting our relationship with KDP which is good. You never know...

PS: PUK knew about the oncoming Iraqi operation. Barzani asked them whether the central government is preparing anything - and they didn't tell the truth to KDP politicians. This was one of the reasons why the KDP Peshmerga weren't prepared. Many towns in the border region between Erbil and Suleymaniye were simply handed over by PUK to the Iraqi forces. That's why they can advance towards Chamchamal so easily. Especially this town was always disputed between PUK and KDP.

These things are important to know otherwise you can not make a proper analysis of the situation.
 
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Militarily both Suleymaniyah and Arbil can be taken, nowhere as hard as the battles fought against IS in Mosul, Fallujah and Ramadi.

Never dare is the wrong word, Peshmerga are a joke whom are fighting battle hardened troops that faced IS on a large scale. You would be right to say though that it's unlikely to happen, they won't get orders to go into these cities, and maybe that's good. Who wants cities where everyone hates you anyway?

Suleymaniyah should not be taken, Arbil.. would be nice to remove tarzanis clan but I don't care about it either.

Bro can you translate the video that Flux sent please ? I really wanna know what they are saying !
 
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Not a problem anymore either. US military trained Iraqi forces to set up bridges for the Mosul offensive, they did so autonomously.

Turkish border has to be reached, blowing up a bridge shouldn't be too big of an obstacle.

There is a new initiative led by Germany to be intermediate between Pesh and Iraqi Gov.;
that makes me believe that Pesh and PKK/YPG want to keep Sincar and most territories after 2003 .
The initiative led by Germany intends to bring Bagdat and Pesh on the table, the EU and permanent members of the UN-Security council should participate. Nothing was mentioned that the other regional countries should participate.
Quote: "Norbert Röttgen"
 
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