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Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

F-35 vs S-400; If Turkey had to choose one, which one should it choose?

  • F-35

  • S-400


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Btw, USA won’t reimburse a penny. Remember this post

The US paid $600 million penalty to Turkey over Boeing E7-T AEWC delay

This time the US will pay billions of dollars to Turkey ...
Turkey is not customer , Turkey is a global partner of F-35 program since 1999


btw Turkey will be happy not to pay $10 billion for American control useless F35
without F-35 Turkey can survive until 2030 , better to spend $10 billion for TF-X Fighter Jet project and buying extra more 4 battaries S400 Air Defense System


Turkey's stealth UCAV projects almost will do same role of F35
MIUS and GOKSUNGUR UCAVs armed with SOM stealth Cruise Missile for SEAD-DEAD role
 
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USA didn’t pay Turkey 600 mil but Boeing did for delay in 2013. USG is not Boeing and Boeing not usg. I know it’s hard for you to differentiate considering state of affairs in Turkey.
F35 is govt+Lockheed Martin program on our end plus real allies so expect NO PENNY.

Good, don't forget to send us our invested money back.

US is afraid that Turkey will test F-35's with S-400, which could eventually bust it's capabilities... that would ofc ruin everything.
Israel is not a partner but has more freedom than countries that are involved.

Turkish companies gained a lot of experience, TFX is our future.
We are not afraid because you won’t get it. And if your govt was smart enough they would stick to F35, get patriots and eurosam. Instead you will get S400(if!) zero trust, ruined economy. As for TFX, Turkey is experiencing “brain drain” your best and brightest leaving every sector of economy, mark my second prediction -NO TFX next 10+ years
 
USA didn’t pay Turkey 600 mil but Boeing did for delay in 2013. USG is not Boeing and Boeing not usg. I know it’s hard for you to differentiate considering state of affairs in Turkey.
F35 is govt+Lockheed Martin program on our end plus real allies so expect NO PENNY.

I know that Boeing paid penalty to Turkey

and LM or Government or both that doesnt matter ,,,,,,,,,, USA will pay penalty to Turkey for F-35s
 
I know that Boeing paid penalty to Turkey

and LM or Government or both that doesnt matter ,,,,,,,,,, USA will pay penalty to Turkey for F-35s
Use your common sense. We gave you 2 weeks to pull out from Russian ADS. No talk on reimbursement on the table. Then we’ll hammer you with sanctions.
Who is in the right mind will give you reimbursement if you come under sanctions:lol:?
 
Use your common sense. We gave you 2 weeks to pull out from Russian ADS. No talk on reimbursement on the table. Then we’ll hammer you with sanctions.
Who is in the right mind will give you reimbursement if you come under sanctions:lol:?

that means Turkish Armed Forces will start taking Manbij , Ayn Al Arab , Tel Abyad , Rasulayn from the US backed Pkk/Ypg terrorists

and bye bye your dream ..... stupid Americans are dreaming about stoping the Turks with sanctions

in 1974 Turkey was 100 times weaker than today but Turkey did military operation in Cyprus
today nobody can stop the Turks


btw our national security and teritorial integrity million times more important than money


and all American soldiers , equipments including AN/TPY2 Radar will be kicked out of Turkey
Turks did it in 1975 and Turks can do it again
 
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that means Turkish Armed Forces will start taking Manbij , Ayn Al Arab , Tel Abyad , Rasulayn from the US backed Pkk/Ypg terrorists

and bye bye your dream ..... stupid Americans are dreaming about stoping the Turks with sanctions

in 1974 Turkey was 100 times weaker than today but Turkey did military operation in Cyprus
today nobody can stop the Turks


btw our national security and teritorial integrity million times more important than money
For 100500 times you taking manbij. By now you should know that as long our boots in eastern Euphrates you won’t do jack shit no matter how much you care about national security. Russians, Iranians and Syrian learned the hard way not to mess with us. you had no gut to challenge HTS, they were escorting your convoys to observation posts, such a shame, you won’t challenge sdf even without our presence. We keep pumping them with weapons, training and recently they started reconstruction in Raqqa, Manbij, Tabqa and other locations.
And Kiyam force? All wiped out.
What I write here is the reality but you keep going back to your past searching for answers. Your invasion to Cyprus received tacit approval from Washington that’s why you walked away with bullshit arms embargo which was lifted in 1978 and had no major impact on Turkey. We took into account that Greeks were attacking Turkish minority hence your actions were justified. In Syria there’re no Turks. Don’t start with Turkoman nonsense if that’s the case you should attack Russia. Russians keep bombing your brethren and Erdogan allows them to resupply Khmeimim by keeping Bosporus straits open.
 
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@MMM-E You're arguing with fake person. Probably a Kurd or Arab who is supporting the pkk. His friends are in the grave and his nerves are broken. His ban has expired and this fake flag will be re-banned soon.
 
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it doesn't end with S400 did Erdogan not say Turkish are going to work with Russia over S500?

Yes. Quoting below:.

"Turkey will not turn back from its deal to purchase S-400 missile defense systems from Russia," President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said on Wednesday, adding that Ankara may subsequently look into buying S-500 systems. "We concluded the S-400 issue, signed a deal with the Russians, and will start co-production. Later, we may work on S-500s," Erdoğan added. In an interview with Kanal 24, Erdoğan said that the U.S. should not try to "discipline" Turkey through trade measures. If it does, he emphasized, Turkey has its own measures prepared. One of the measures the president alluded to was the U.S.' intention to exclude Turkey from the generalized system of preferences (GSP). "It's done. There will never be a point of turning back. This would not be ethical, it would be immoral. " Erdoğan said.
Source :. https://www.dailysabah.com/defense/2019/03/08/s-400-deal-done-joint-s-500-production-on-agenda
 
For 100500 times you taking manbij. By now you should know that as long our boots in eastern Euphrates you won’t do jack shit no matter how much you care about national security. Russians, Iranians and Syrian learned the hard way not to mess with us. you had no gut to challenge HTS, they were escorting your convoys to observation posts, such a shame, you won’t challenge sdf even without our presence. We keep pumping them with weapons, training and recently they started reconstruction in Raqqa, Manbij, Tabqa and other locations.
And Kiyam force? All wiped out.
What I write here is the reality but you keep going back to your past searching for answers. Your invasion to Cyprus received tacit approval from Washington that’s why you walked away with bullshit arms embargo which was lifted in 1978 and had no major impact on Turkey. We took into account that Greeks were attacking Turkish minority hence your actions were justified. In Syria there’re no Turks. Don’t start with Turkoman nonsense if that’s the case you should attack Russia. Russians keep bombing your brethren and Erdogan allows them to resupply Khmeimim by keeping Bosporus straits open.

Turkish army should use proxies to send your troops back to home in bodybags.
 
Why don’t you be creative and say like a mantra something like this
-we will close incirlik
-we will close the straits
-we will arrest another pastor
-and my favorite of all times-we will invade Manbij.
All 4 for 100500 times:partay:

You can sic your proxies to attack us, sure. But remember this conflict is not a one way street, we can also use our proxies and send your boys in body bags. Tenfold.


@cabatli_53
 
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