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Turkey’s Growing Military Expeditionary Posture

So long as Turkey is part of the NATO alliance and has "close" relationship with the zionist west, there is no Muslim (imcluding fellow Muslim Turkish brothers) that should support this country's govt and it's foreign policies.
I agree. Turkey is showing military maturity now, But like you're saying, Turkey being part of NATO increases the chance that Turkey will either fall for a "trap", or get used as NATO/US's proxy... or become collateral in the competition with Russia(not literal collateral).
 
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Turkey wants to revive the Ottoman empire.

No. We never think of revive the Ottoman Empire. For example, we are not interested in Greece at all. Although Greece thinks so. Because there is nothing that country can add to us. On the contrary, she consumes the resources of western european countries, our geopolitical competitors. :)

For this reason, it is not among our plans to dominate countries such as the Ottomans. Ensure the security of trade routes, our allies reign in critical places, these are more than enough for us.
 
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Fact is Turkey does not take on any country that has powerful military. The only countries Turkey has military presence in are Cyprus, Syria, Libya, Somalia, which are among the smallest and weakest in the world.
 
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You could say the same for America. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, N Korea, etc etc.
Fact is Turkey does not take on any country that has powerful military. The only countries Turkey has military presence in are Cyprus, Syria, Libya, Somalia, which are among the smallest and weakest in the world.
 
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And, today the Turkish land-based EW system, ASELSAN KORAL, has given a "hard time" to the most advanced European long range (>300km) radar systems of the Italian destroyers stationed off the Libyan coast!! It's just a "small" warning...

 
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The US attacked Germany and Japan and Italy in WW2 which were world powers at the time. Turkey never attacks a world power.

What a dumb comment nobody fights a strong empire or nation head on because they dont want to weaken themselves or lose.

Its easier to pick on weak nations while weakening strong countries within or slowly is prefered.

Nobody likes head on fights especially today. The rules of engagement has changed due to two world wars. Everybody does not want a repeat of that carnage that consumed most of the world and got millions killed in the process.
 
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Turkey has a long way to go and is rather late in the game having spent so any decades from 1960s to 2000 just buying equipment

The progress is also painstakingly slow

However there is positives, the electronic warfare section and development in missile technology and also UAV has been the highlights and this is reflected in the exports, naval development is also going well

ASELSAN, ROKETSAN, TAI and STM are clearly the biggest boys in the game

The government needs to invest more in these companies allow them to challenge overseas

by the end of this decade Turkey should surpass the likes of Spain and Italy
When you start so late you have to go through all the steps and the initial stages are the longest. Also we didnt start in 2000, your just seeing the fruits now. Most of those companies set up after 1974 American military sanctions. Its always better late than never.
 
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If Turkey's government really wants legitimacy in the Muslim World, then it would disassociate itself from NATO and the zionist west. The Middle Eastern sheikhdoms
I agree. Turkey is showing military maturity now, But like you're saying, Turkey being part of NATO increases the chance that Turkey will either fall for a "trap", or get used as NATO/US's proxy... or become collateral in the competition with Russia(not literal collateral).

Japan, Australia, India, South Korea and Middle Eastern Shekhdoms are all puppet states dictated to by zionist america, britain and france. Turkey, if it truly wants to fight the good fight and be Muslim, has to cut off its umbilical cord from NATO, america, britain, france and the rest of the west. Otherwise Turkey will inevitably be doing the zionist bidding, like it or not, that is the bitter Truth!!
 
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If Turkey's government really wants legitimacy in the Muslim World, then it would disassociate itself from NATO and the zionist west. The Middle Eastern sheikhdoms


Japan, Australia, India, South Korea and Middle Eastern Shekhdoms are all puppet states dictated to by zionist america, britain and france. Turkey, if it truly wants to fight the good fight and be Muslim, has to cut off its umbilical cord from NATO, america, britain, france and the rest of the west. Otherwise Turkey will inevitably be doing the zionist bidding, like it or not, that is the bitter Truth!!
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When you start so late you have to go through all the steps and the initial stages are the longest. Also we didnt start in 2000, your just seeing the fruits now. Most of those companies set up after 1974 American military sanctions. Its always better late than never.
1970–1980
1970s have been the period in which solid initiatives were put into force so as to establish a national defence industry. As a result of the national reaction to the arms embargo against Turkey, Armed Forces Foundation were established. Although these Foundations formed enterprises such as Aselsan, Havelsan, Aspilsan thanks to the donations, it was soon realized that the actual need for a defence industry as required by the contemporary age could not be met through the Foundations.

1980-1985
In the 1980s, state initiative was undertaken to realize the modernization of the Turkish Armed Forces and the establishment of a national defence industry based on contemporary technology was set as the primary goal.

The first step in this direction was taken by the establishment of defence equipment Directorate as a state enterprise. However, the shortcomings stemming from its state-bound status prevented the success and all the properties of that enterprise were transferred to the Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) which was established in 1985 under the Law No: 3238



Today's Turkish defense industry
One of the main tasks of the SSM is to re-organize and integrate the existing national industry so as to satisfy defence industry requirements, encourage new enterprises and channel them according to the integration and requirements, seek possibilities for foreign capital and technology contribution, guide enterprises and make plans for state participation in this respect.

Over the last 21 years since its establishment, and as a result of dedicated efforts, the Undersecretariat for Defence Industries has made real achievements in the creation of a modern national defence infrastructure in Turkey, with highly successful results in certain vital areas. Key defence industrial institutions have been established to meet the requirements of the Turkish Armed Forces through local sources, each of which fill an important gap in their scope of activity.

Additionally, some important capabilities have been obtained in the framework of the projects and industrialization activities. Briefly these are as follows:

  • Technology infrastructure
  • Export infrastructure
  • Strengthening side sectors
  • Restructuring industry and
  • Expertise
Turkish defense industries are now able to manufacture authentic products and have a wide research and development programme in which main supporter is TÜBİTAK .

As a result of SSM projects now Turkey have existence of a defense industry. There are very sufficient sub-system producers, firms in Teknokent, small and medium-sized enterprises, research institutions and universities. This was further boosted by its growing exports of weaponry.

The latest U.N. figures show Turkey, China and the Czech Republic joining the list of the world's top exporters of small arms, which is led by the United States

;););)
 
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