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http://www.dw.com/en/turkeys-erdogan-warns-germany-ahead-of-armenian-genocide-vote/a-19296898

Turkish President Erdogan has warned Germany of consequences if it passes an Armenian genocide resolution. Berlin and Ankara's deep cultural, economic, political and military ties could sour at a critical time.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned Germany on Tuesday against labeling the mass death of Armenians during World War I as "genocide," a sensitive move that could damage relations at a critical juncture.

German lawmakers are expected to pass the resolution on Thursday, with Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives and their coalition partner, the Social Democrats, as well as the Greens backing the measure.

Before heading on a trip to Africa on Tuesday, Erdogan told reporters the resolution's passage would "naturally damage future diplomatic, economic, business, political and military relations between the two countries - and we are both also NATO countries."

Erdogan also initiated a call with Merkel on Tuesday, Turkish state-run Anatolia Agency reported.

As the successor state to the Ottoman Empire, Turkey officially denies that the events that started in 1915 amounted to genocide and has lashed out at countries that have officially recognized the term.

When France formally called the displacements and killings genocide in 2011, Turkey temporarily recalled its ambassador; it did the same thing to Austria last year. It has threatened the US with the closure of critical NATO bases if the US Congress passes a resolution.

The German resolution comes at a time when Merkel is relying on Turkey to implement a migrant deal with the EU. The controversial deal has already faced difficulty over Turkish demands for visa-free travel to the bloc. Erdogan's allies have threatened to unleash a wave of migrants on Europe if the country's demands are not met.

It also comes amid mounting concern over human rights in Turkey, Erdogan's authoritarian bent and spillover from the war in Syria. Domestically, the resolution could stir emotions among Germany's 3 million-strong Turkish minority.

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said on Tuesday he didn't believe passing the resolution would cause problems with Germany's Turkish community. However, he did voice popular concern that passing the resolution would trigger an unproductive response from Turkey and hamper efforts at reconciliation with Armenia.

Backing away from passing the resolution could renew criticism Merkel is appeasing Erdogan. She has already come under criticism for allowing an investigation into a German comedian who insulted the Turkish president in a poem.

Militating against a sharp and sustained Turkish response against a genocide resolution is Germany's position as Ankara's top trading partner.

[/B]The resolution and German culpability

The resolution up for vote on Thursday uses the world "genocide" in both the headline and the text.

"The fate of the Armenians is exemplary in the history of mass exterminations, ethnic cleansing, deportations and yes, genocide, which marked the 20th century in such a terrible way," it reads.

It also notes that Germany, as an ally of the Ottoman Empire during World War I, "bears partial responsibility for the events."

Last April 24, on the 100th anniversary of what Armenians call the Great Crime, the Bundestag postponed voting on a similar resolution to classify the mass killings as genocide. Yet German President Joachim Gauck used the term, drawing criticism from Turkey.

At the time, the governing coalition opted not to vote on the resolution, but the Greens led by Cem Ozdemir, an ethnic Turk, forced a vote this year.

Turkey officially refers to what happened as the "Events of 1915" and denies that the massacres and deportations amounted to genocide. The official line is that ethnic Armenians represented a fifth column backed by Russia during World War I, and that the mass deportation and accompanying Armenian deaths were not premeditated or intentional - a key requirement in the legal definition of genocide.


Hundreds of thousands of Assyrian Christians also died or were expelled

Officials in Turkey put the number of Armenians who died at around 500,000, while Armenia puts the number at about 1.5 million out of a prewar population of some 2 million. Turkish officials also point out that hundreds of thousands of Muslims died from combat, starvation, cold and disease in eastern Anatolia during the war. Armenians have documented systematic mass murder, organized banditry, raping of women, pillaging of property and other atrocities.

Nearly 30 countries have formally recognized the massacres as genocide. Keen to avoid irking a key ally, the United States has avoided using the term, although more than 40 US state legislatures have passed genocide resolutions.
 
Did Turkey piss off Germany in refugee crisis or in anyother matter? Why this Genocide crap comes up again and again? Who is needling Turkey and for what? Is someone angry on Mr. Erdogan and his policies? Trying to pressurize Turks to make them do what they don't want? Dirty politics by Germany?

Can anyone help? @HAKIKAT
 
"It also notes that Germany, as an ally of the Ottoman Empire during World War I, "bears partial responsibility for the events."

That's pretty sick. According to the histories I'm reading the Germans tried to stop or mitigate this but their was little or nothing they could do. Apparently the orders were not issued by the military command but through the civil governors; German officers attached to the Ottoman military thus had no jurisdiction. They could not even stop the Ottomans from taking away the Armenian prisoners employed in building the critical Berlin-Istanbul railway. (Eventually, these were replaced by British prisoners-of-war.)
 
Thats democracy at work here. It will pass tomorrow and Turkey has to live with it.

Italy goes even further. If you denie the armenian genocide you face 3 years prison time in italy.


The whole EU must follow.
 
Bangladesh also preparing to achieve international recognition of Pakistani genocide of 1971 and put under trial of 195 Pakistani war criminal.Bangladesh have many things to learn from Armenia.Getting away with genocide is becoming a little bit difficult in 21st century it seems.:P

My reply will b same like you see above by Turkish member.......

We don't know, we don't care, and your decision will change nothing.

Continue to have romance with India.
 
My reply will b same like you see above by Turkish member.......

We don't know, we don't care, and your decision will change nothing.
But..but erdogan seems to care.:unsure: That's why he is antagonizing the most important member of EU where he aspire to be included.
Continue to have romance with India.
Whether we have romance or enmity with india have nothing to do with pakistan getting away with genocide.
 
What happened to freedom of speech dude?

:D

I´m not a liberal nor do i promote freedom of speech. I´m member of FI. We are a right wing conservative / facist party.

So what was your question exactly?
 
I´m not a liberal nor do i promote freedom of speech. I´m member of FI. We are a right wing conservative / facist party.

So what was your question exactly?

Dude you look very non-European and need to pray that fascists never come into power.:D
 

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