Turkey's Erdogan unnerves West with Putin visit

[MarkusS]

Yeah, if you can't understand "stop trying to interfere in to our domestic affairs"....than there is nothing left to say.

No, i told you we give a shit. As i said, Erdogan can build up concentration camps or install his wahabi dream and we dont care. We have certain criteria that you must match when you want visa free travel or cooperation. You either meet them or you dont.

Look Sinan, my party is happy for Erdogan. He functions as a catalyst for us. I wish he arrests more. I wish he starts death penalty. The right conservatives parties like our Forza Italia lost evry respect for the liberal scum that leads europe.

We openly call Junker an demented Alcoholic. You should have seen him. He was shaking and pale. They fear us Sinan. Far more than they care for you.

Can you understand their dilemma. They need this refugee deal to keep their human rights bullshit alive. Meanwhile Erdogan acts erratic and crazy while parties like Forza Italia, Front National or AfD get victory over victory.

So what should they do? If they ignore Erdogans behavior they get crushed by us for their submissive behavior. If they get to tough on Erdogan the deal breaks and they get crushed from us for their failure.

 

[-SINAN-]

No, i told you we give a shit. As i said, Erdogan can build up concentration camps or install his wahabi dream and we dont care. We have certain criteria that you must match when you want visa free travel or cooperation. You either meet them or you dont.

Look Sinan, my party is happy for Erdogan. He functions as a catalyst for us. I wish he arrests more. I wish he starts death penalty. The right conservatives parties like our Forza Italia lost evry respect for the liberal scum that leads europe.

We openly call Junker an demented Alcoholic. You should have seen him. He was shaking and pale. They fear us Sinan. Far more than they care for you.

Can you understand their dilemma. They need this refugee deal to keep their human rights bullshit alive. Meanwhile Erdogan acts erratic and crazy while parties like Forza Italia, Front National or AfD get victory over victory.

So what should they do? If they ignore Erdogans behavior they get crushed by us for their submissive behavior. If they get to tough on Erdogan the deal breaks and they get crushed from us for their failure.

 

[mike2000 is back]

I don't see the problem with this. Even our PM is meeting Putin to improve ties and cooperate on sectors we can cooperate and talks about Balkans, Baltic, Ukraine crisis etc. Since we both have forces in the region now.
Truth is any country often holds talks and even cooperates in some fields with their adversaries, Turkey shouldn't be any different. Only a fool will think Turkey will abandon NATO or Europe for Russia. Loool. What will they achieve with that ??

So I don't see much changing even with this visit which is normal. Even Obama often visits China, Japanese officials d the same, that doesn't Change their rivalries/geo political interests.

 

[MarkusS]

And by shaping your whole opinion on Turkey by basing it on Erdogan you alienate all 70+ million Turks. Furthermore by saying that Turkey is irrelevant minus its geographic position is quite stupid. One of the fastest growing economies, fastest developing domestic arms industry, young population, NATOs second largest military (which could grind any conventional European army into dust) and a country who today is more united in spirit than ever...all these and more make up Turkey. So keep lying to yourself about Turkey being irrelevant. Even better, ask your media agencies why they are so infatuated by what's going on in Turkey if it is a country that is irrelevant (welcome to Logic 101, if it hurts your head drink some cold water and take a nap before continuing on to the next part).

As for Erdogan, I'm no fan of him but I love the fact that he stands and up and calls a wrong a wrong loudly and clearly. The reason why you don't like him is because he isn't bowing to your every demand like many previous Turkish politicians would do. He wants to be treated as an equal and if you don't want to treat him as one then that's fine as long as you **** off and don't interfere in our internal affairs...yet you still interfere in our internal affairs as if we are some vassal state that is sworn to be obedient to your every word. But the funny thing is with every year the voice of the EU to the Turkish public gets quieter and quieter. One day soon it will be silenced completely, one way or another. And then we can start a dialogue as equals or there will be no dialogue at all.

How would you see equal?

Do you accept our security concerns?

 

[A friend]

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