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Turkey to Send Troops to Libya at Tripoli's Request, Erdogan Says

I see suggestion from his post but total ignorance from yours. Turkey with not that health economy ( I am trying to be nice to not say disaster) is going all out is positive for your nation?
Study on Turkey more, it's unlike China, and Chinese history.
 
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Good old days when Libya was a proper Country. It had a government. It had a voice. It had national institutions.
Rest in Peace Muammar Qaddafi.
Still remember people were dancing heads down tows up here on PDF as well on Fall of Libya. Now is just a messy Desert with Animals sponsored by foreign countries Fighting over what is left of the country made by that man. Libya GDPPPP Fell from 190 Billion USD in 2011 to 37 Billion Dollars in 2016 in just 5 years 190b to 37b is just sad man.
Thankless generation don't value what they have. Status quo is a blessing as well despite of its shortcomings. Is their any Libyan on this forum? Real Libyan?
 
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Good old days when Libya was a proper Country. It had a government. It had a voice. It had national institutions.
Rest in Peace Muammar Qaddafi.
Still remember people were dancing heads down tows up here on PDF as well on Fall of Libya. Now is just a messy Desert with Animals sponsored by foreign countries Fighting over what is left of the country made by that man. Libya GDPPPP Fell from 190 Billion USD in 2011 to 37 Billion Dollars in 2016 in just 5 years 190b to 37b is just sad man.
Thankless generation don't value what they have. Status quo is a blessing as well despite of its shortcomings. Is their any Libyan on this forum? Real Libyan?
@Mhmoud
 
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The moment Turkish soldiers enters Libya it is game over for the rest! The local population is more than enough to deal with Hafter, all they need is equipmnet and traning! I dont think Turkish soldiers will directly be involve in the clashes. With Turkish aid Now it will be a fair war! Libyian people will have a chance to decide about their future against a wardog like Hafter who is able to get all the possible military assistance!
 
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Good old days when Libya was a proper Country. It had a government. It had a voice. It had national institutions.
Rest in Peace Muammar Qaddafi.
Still remember people were dancing heads down tows up here on PDF as well on Fall of Libya. Now is just a messy Desert with Animals sponsored by foreign countries Fighting over what is left of the country made by that man. Libya GDPPPP Fell from 190 Billion USD in 2011 to 37 Billion Dollars in 2016 in just 5 years 190b to 37b is just sad man.
Thankless generation don't value what they have. Status quo is a blessing as well despite of its shortcomings. Is their any Libyan on this forum? Real Libyan?

Although qazaffi attacked Egypt in 1977 and The Egyptian Army smashed his forces down and crossed the boarders and took control of Messaed City then the Egyptians returned after Many Arab countries negotiated with Qazafi to stop his adventures..... although all of that .... he was a leader of a country that we can deal with .... but now there are many leaders and terrorists....

I hope that Libya becomes united again .... it will be a role model of success by the god’s willing in shaa allah.
 
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The moment Turkish soldiers enters Libya it is game over for the rest! The local population is more than enough to deal with Hafter, all they need is equipmnet and traning! I dont think Turkish soldiers will directly be involve in the clashes. With Turkish aid Now it will be a fair war! Libyian people will have a chance to decide about their future against a wardog like Hafter who is able to get all the possible military assistance!
They need more than Equipment and Training if they want to win...
Let's be clear here... IF TR doesn't engage fully at the start with what RU is similarly doing in Syria...
All of it will have been for nothing... Without it... Tripoli will fall. Period.

You need to close the Air space for LNA fighter jets... Down anyone of them coming near...
YOu need to engage in an airstrike campaign... while forces on the ground move up... you need to control Air and Naval supplies to Haftar... and so on... Without it... this conflict will not only take years and years but could end by an even more humiliated lose...

And if that isn't TR main long term plan... to make GNA win... then it's better for Turks to protest in mass against Erdogan and end this masquerade that will take a toll in TR economy/moral and blood... For nothing.
 
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They need more than Equipment and Training if they want to win...
Let's be clear here... IF TR doesn't engage fully at the start with what RU is similarly doing in Syria...
All of it will have been for nothing... Without it... Tripoli will fall. Period.

You need to close the Air space for LNA fighter jets... Down anyone of them coming near...
YOu need to engage in an airstrike campaign... while forces on the ground move up... you need to control Air and Naval supplies to Haftar... and so on... Without it... this conflict will not only take years and years but could end by an even more humiliated lose...

And if that isn't TR main long term plan... to make GNA win... then it's better for Turks to protest in mass against Erdogan and end this masquerade that will take a toll in TR economy/moral and blood... For nothing.

Egypt is responsible for the Arabization (liberation) of Idlib, as Syria's neighbor Iraq is co-responsible for the Arabization of Idlib. We should send PMU to take Idlib as Egypt should invade Tripoli. Dogan won't be able to do anything about it.
 
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Egypt is responsible for the Arabization (liberation) of Idlib, as Syria's neighbor Iraq is co-responsible for the Arabization of Idlib. We should send PMU to take Idlib as Egypt should invade Tripoli. Dogan won't be able to do anything about it.
Any idea when they will send troops?
Now that Erdogan plan is official...
 
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Any idea when they will send troops?
Now that Erdogan plan is official...


He should invade today but he's a weak ruler. We should also help our fellow Arabs in the Euphrates region of Syria against the Kurdish animals, they do not belong under Kurdish rule. The Islam of Erdogan is rejected, moderate and filled with Ottomanism which is nothing but Turkish nationalism, it has no place in the Arab world. On the contrary we are exporting Arabs to them as Istanbul is already being Arabized.
 
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He should invade today but he's a weak ruler. We should also help our fellow Arabs in the Euphrates region of Syria against the Kurdish animals, they do not belong under Kurdish rule. The Islam of Erdogan is rejected, moderate and filled with Ottomanism which is nothing but Turkish nationalism, it has no place in the Arab world. On the contrary we are exporting Arabs to them as Istanbul is already being Arabized.

The region is a mess... with no end in sight...
Don't you think if everyone is forced to wake up... things interesting may come out, out the Chaos?
A reshuffle that could separate the good from the rotten?
 
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The region is a mess... with no end in sight...
Don't you think if everyone is forced to wake up... things interesting may come out, out the Chaos?
A reshuffle that could separate the good from the rotten?

I told you... 'wake up' holds no substance, it's an empty word. Perhaps we should let ISIS behead everyone so we can wake up, maybe we should nuke the middle east or use chemical weapons in every capital so that we can 'wake up'.

You use this term 'wake up' to justify your political stance which is supporting Erdogan's foreign policy. 'Waking up' might as well be supporting Khamenei, or maybe my ideology. Now before you start talking about how nationalism is bad, Erdogan is full of nationalism.

Argue facts of cause and effect from history and today, then we can talk about something. Not 'waking up'.
 
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I told you... 'wake up' holds no substance, it's an empty word. Perhaps we should let ISIS behead everyone so we can wake up, maybe we should nuke the middle east or use chemical weapons in every capital so that we can 'wake up'.

You use this term 'wake up' to justify your political stance which is supporting Erdogan's foreign policy. 'Waking up' might as well be supporting Khamenei, or maybe my ideology. Now before you start talking about how nationalism is bad, Erdogan is full of nationalism.

Argue facts of cause and effect from history and today, then we can talk about something. Not 'waking up'.
I already defined the consequence of my "Waking up"... I don't really care about the "Crisis/Challenges" that needs to trigger it... ( the less innocent death is the better ofc)

Waking up is moving toward "Unity"... and IF Unity is impossible despite the "Crisis/Challenges" in sight... Then Waking up take the form of "Expansion".

Our region had many possiblity to wake up in front of Challenges in those past Decades... Some where promising others not... But Today, there is hope... at least it seems like Hope... for possible "Waking up" moment...
But who knows... could be another "Fail"... then at this point... I will push for Expansion... of whoever is willing to take the lead...

As for whatever I can stand behind your "Idea"... Yes I could... Actually I was... but that was before... Before we saw the imperfection of such "Ideas"... I believe the last half century is a witness of such "Ideas"... bound to fail... Whoever touched it... was only rewarded as long as they kept their eyes shut in front of reality...
 
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