Saif al-Arab
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Friend..the Arabs handed the Turks the leadership of Islam in accordance with Islamic belief of merit.. The Turks became powerful under the Arab reign and took over Islamic faith to other parts of the world, both played their Muslim role..but to say that Turks ever invaded Arabs will sound a bit fabricated, Since the Arabs who handed power to the Turks for continuation of Islamic conquests were already present from India to Spain before any Ottoman empire emergence.. It is the Arabs who have conquered Spain coming a long way from Iraq and Syria, while the source of Islam was Saudi Arabia..
We, the Arabs, conquered like 95% of all conquered Muslim lands. And those that we did not conquer directly, like South East Asia, our sailors and travelers managed to conquer through peaceful Dawah and Arab migration. Which is why there are 5 million Indonesians of Arab origin and why almost all Indonesians follow the same Shafi'i fiqh that the Arab (Hadhrami and Hijazi) sailors, traders and migrants followed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Indonesians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Indonesia
Even founding a few Arab-descended dynasties in South Asia such as the current ruling royal family of Brunei and many past ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bolkiah
Not only that we spread Islam to Sub-Saharan Africa, Sahel and Horn of Africa in a similar way (Swahili coastline - an Arabic word) due to settlement, trade. Which is why Arabic remains the second language in those regions of the world and why languages like Swahili is a mixture of Arabic and local languages.
Same story in South Asia. The first mosques built outside of the Arabian Peninsula and the Arab world were built in South Asia (Pakistan, Western and Southern India and Sri Lanka) thanks to ancient millennia old trade ties between Arabs and locals. Even dating back to the IVC (Dilmun, Magan, Sumer etc.).
People who are much smaller in numbers, rule much less land, have much fewer resources, much less impressive history, military included, much less potential and who have much less money, who have influenced the world more in terms of culture, language, religion, architecture etc. are barking due to a bad period in the Arab world and current regime infighting. Let them be. The entire world knows what is real history and what is not real history and what is the ground reality and what is not.
Look, their proudest moment is becoming Turkified by a few Central Asian hordes (Seljuks and afterwards Ottomans). The same few conquering dynasties and tribes that managed to Turkify them completely (as modern-day DNA confirms - no bullshit here) and erase their identity. Afterwards those same dynasties adopted Arab and Persian culture, language, religion, titles etc. They even take pride in ancient Arabian artifacts that they have nothing to do with other than stealing them 1000 years later.
Of course this factual post, will be deemed as "copy-paste" when there is none, or "lie" when it is sourced and was earlier in the debate as well. Let them post photos of wolves (LOL) and camels. I just added a donkey, which is much more popular in Turkey and common, while we can add Arabian horses, lions, leopards, wolves, camels, falcons and what not. We win on that front too, lol.
lol what kind of BS Map is this? Morocco was never ruled by the Ottomans. Morocco has been an independent state for 1200 continuous years. Morocco put an end to their expansion west of North Africa.
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I see similarities between them and Iranians. They use lying as a tactic. Take a look at the Ottoman map that I posted dating from 1683 which was when they were at their highest. 3 times smaller than the Umayyad and 2 times smaller than the Abbasid which ruled for almost 800 years. It's a joke if they included Morocco but the FAKE map that he posted also included like 75% of the Arab world while they only ruled like 20 % and often only through local vassals as was the case in Arabia where their presence was confined to a few military barracks, lol.
Funny people with Arabic names (most likely) following Islam and owning so much to Arabs, are badmouthing us. What a joke!
LOL at them claiming defeating the Mongols in Arab heartlands when almost the entire armies were local Arabs. Just a complete and utter joke.
Soon they will claim having ruled an empire from France to China.