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Friend..the Arabs handed the Turks the leadership of Islam in accordance with Islamic belief of merit.. The Turks became powerful under the Arab reign and took over Islamic faith to other parts of the world, both played their Muslim role..but to say that Turks ever invaded Arabs will sound a bit fabricated, Since the Arabs who handed power to the Turks for continuation of Islamic conquests were already present from India to Spain before any Ottoman empire emergence.. It is the Arabs who have conquered Spain coming a long way from Iraq and Syria, while the source of Islam was Saudi Arabia..

We, the Arabs, conquered like 95% of all conquered Muslim lands. And those that we did not conquer directly, like South East Asia, our sailors and travelers managed to conquer through peaceful Dawah and Arab migration. Which is why there are 5 million Indonesians of Arab origin and why almost all Indonesians follow the same Shafi'i fiqh that the Arab (Hadhrami and Hijazi) sailors, traders and migrants followed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Indonesians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Indonesia

Even founding a few Arab-descended dynasties in South Asia such as the current ruling royal family of Brunei and many past ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bolkiah

Not only that we spread Islam to Sub-Saharan Africa, Sahel and Horn of Africa in a similar way (Swahili coastline - an Arabic word) due to settlement, trade. Which is why Arabic remains the second language in those regions of the world and why languages like Swahili is a mixture of Arabic and local languages.

Same story in South Asia. The first mosques built outside of the Arabian Peninsula and the Arab world were built in South Asia (Pakistan, Western and Southern India and Sri Lanka) thanks to ancient millennia old trade ties between Arabs and locals. Even dating back to the IVC (Dilmun, Magan, Sumer etc.).

People who are much smaller in numbers, rule much less land, have much fewer resources, much less impressive history, military included, much less potential and who have much less money, who have influenced the world more in terms of culture, language, religion, architecture etc. are barking due to a bad period in the Arab world and current regime infighting. Let them be. The entire world knows what is real history and what is not real history and what is the ground reality and what is not.


Look, their proudest moment is becoming Turkified by a few Central Asian hordes (Seljuks and afterwards Ottomans). The same few conquering dynasties and tribes that managed to Turkify them completely (as modern-day DNA confirms - no bullshit here) and erase their identity. Afterwards those same dynasties adopted Arab and Persian culture, language, religion, titles etc. They even take pride in ancient Arabian artifacts that they have nothing to do with other than stealing them 1000 years later.

Of course this factual post, will be deemed as "copy-paste" when there is none, or "lie" when it is sourced and was earlier in the debate as well. Let them post photos of wolves (LOL) and camels. I just added a donkey, which is much more popular in Turkey and common, while we can add Arabian horses, lions, leopards, wolves, camels, falcons and what not. We win on that front too, lol.

lol what kind of BS Map is this? Morocco was never ruled by the Ottomans. Morocco has been an independent state for 1200 continuous years. Morocco put an end to their expansion west of North Africa.

@Alithemoor1

I see similarities between them and Iranians. They use lying as a tactic. Take a look at the Ottoman map that I posted dating from 1683 which was when they were at their highest. 3 times smaller than the Umayyad and 2 times smaller than the Abbasid which ruled for almost 800 years. It's a joke if they included Morocco but the FAKE map that he posted also included like 75% of the Arab world while they only ruled like 20 % and often only through local vassals as was the case in Arabia where their presence was confined to a few military barracks, lol.

Funny people with Arabic names (most likely) following Islam and owning so much to Arabs, are badmouthing us. What a joke!

LOL at them claiming defeating the Mongols in Arab heartlands when almost the entire armies were local Arabs. Just a complete and utter joke.

Soon they will claim having ruled an empire from France to China.:lol:
 
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Read about the Mamluks, they include the Seldjuks..
Turks were excellent military force before Mamluks and continued to be after them too, the Seldjuk were Turco-Persian empire.
Turks established states and empires before Arabs had any contact with them, claiming Arabs being the reason for their success is quite arrogant.

LIST OF HISTORIC TURKIC STATES AND EMPIRES

Xiongnu (3rd century BC-4th century AD)
Huns (4th century-5th century)
Gokturk State (552-744)
Bulgars (2nd-9th century)
Great Bulgaria (580s-635)
Volga Bulgaria (800-1236)
Pechenegs (860-1091)
Khazars (7th-10th century)
Uyghur State (744-840)
Kyrgyz State (840-920)
Kypchaks
Kimeks
Saqsin
Kara-Khanid Khanate (840-1042)
Later Tang Dynasty in China (923-936)
Later Jin Dynasty in China (936-947)
Later Han Dynasty in China (948-951)
Ghaznavid Empire (962-1187)
Khwarezm-Shahs (1097-1231)
Seljuk Turks (1073-1307)
Kara-kitays (1207-1487)
Mamluks (1250-1517)
Karamanoğlu (13th century-1487)
Black Sheep Turks (1375-1468)
Khanate of Kazan (1438-1552)
Khanate of Astrakhan (1430s-1554)
Siberia Khanate (1430s-1576)
Qasim Khanate (15th -17th century)
Kazakh Khanate (1456-1731)
Khanate of Crimea (1441-1783)
Jagoldai (15th-17th century)
Ottoman Empire (1299-1922)
Mughal Empire (1526-1707)
Safavid Empire (1501-1722)

Turkic-Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan (13th century)
Golden Horde (Kipchak Khanate) (1227-1502)
Turkic-Mongol Empire of Timur Lenk (1370-1506)

Turkic States in Eastern Europe
The Avar kingdom
Crimean Khanate (1441-1783)
 
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ottomans fought the against most powerfuul states in that times
ottoman vs crusaders armies ottoman vs venice , ottomans vs byzantine
, ottomans vs lehistan(poland)
ottoman vs habsburg, ottomans vs memluk, ottomans vs timurid
ottoman vs prusya. ottomans vs russia , ottomans vs napelonic france,
ottoman vs spain , portugal ottomans vs english empire
etc..

finally ottomans vs english, france,russia in ww1

now who was more poerfull ottomans or ummayids
Arabs have already defeated two of the biggest civilisations in the world.. read about Khalid Ibn Al walid and the historical decisive "Battle of Yormuk".. there is a thread on it in this forum Section..historical battle..
The Arabs took the conquests as far as India in the East, and Morocco and Spain to the West and deep into Africa in the South.. The Ottomans took it North, and those wars were the results..
 
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This shows your bias:
"In addition 400 Israeli land vehicles were hitten from Soviet Sagger ATGMs!"
And those American Usraeli tanks were the brave Usraeli soldiers..?

You missed a lot on the 1973 war.. I know both version the Usraeli propaganda one that yopu believe in and the Arab version , much more humble and true with proves you have never seen.. I have watched more videos of the October war than you can imagine or can anyway..
Those American tanks were made by american jews.
But Soviet tanks weren't made by Arabs!
You need read historiCal facts and you will find the casuil ties which is totally embarrassing to admit.
At least people still alive who attended the war.
UN orders still in register.
 
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Turks were excellent military force before Mamluks and continued to be after them too, the Seldjuk were Turco-Persian empire.
Turks established states and empires before Arabs had any contact with them, claiming Arabs being the reason for their success is quite arrogant.

LIST OF HISTORIC TURKIC STATES AND EMPIRES

Xiongnu (3rd century BC-4th century AD)
Huns (4th century-5th century)
Gokturk State (552-744)
Bulgars (2nd-9th century)
Great Bulgaria (580s-635)
Volga Bulgaria (800-1236)
Pechenegs (860-1091)
Khazars (7th-10th century)
Uyghur State (744-840)
Kyrgyz State (840-920)
Kypchaks
Kimeks
Saqsin
Kara-Khanid Khanate (840-1042)
Later Tang Dynasty in China (923-936)
Later Jin Dynasty in China (936-947)
Later Han Dynasty in China (948-951)
Ghaznavid Empire (962-1187)
Khwarezm-Shahs (1097-1231)
Seljuk Turks (1073-1307)
Kara-kitays (1207-1487)
Mamluks (1250-1517)
Karamanoğlu (13th century-1487)
Black Sheep Turks (1375-1468)
Khanate of Kazan (1438-1552)
Khanate of Astrakhan (1430s-1554)
Siberia Khanate (1430s-1576)
Qasim Khanate (15th -17th century)
Kazakh Khanate (1456-1731)
Khanate of Crimea (1441-1783)
Jagoldai (15th-17th century)
Ottoman Empire (1299-1922)
Mughal Empire (1526-1707)
Safavid Empire (1501-1722)

Turkic-Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan (13th century)
Golden Horde (Kipchak Khanate) (1227-1502)
Turkic-Mongol Empire of Timur Lenk (1370-1506)

Turkic States in Eastern Europe
The Avar kingdom
Crimean Khanate (1441-1783)

The list is even longer than you think.

 
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Atilla pissed on the Romans in Europe, Gokturks pissed on eceryone in central Asia and then the Turks came to middle east and pissed on everyone there and pissed on the eastern roman empire and took Istanbul. Ottomans was pissing on a united European crusade.

Where was Arabs in the same scene with Turks and dominated? Hahahahahahahahah. That's funny.

They were trading spices :D

Next he will claim, Arabs taught the Greeks democracy, Arabs taught the Turks warfare, Arabs taught the Persians statesmanship, Arabs taught the Chinese print, mythical Arabs conquered 100% of the world! we are 100% pure DNA!!!! STRONK!!!
 
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Arabs have already defeated two of the biggest civilisations in the world.. read about Khalid Ibn Al walid and the historical decisive "Battle of Yormuk".. there is a thread on it in this forum Section..historical battle..
The Arabs took the conquests as far as India in the East, and Morocco and Spain to the West and deep into Africa in the South.. The Ottomans were took it North , and those wars were the results..

by the way in the result everybody serve islam
this sharh al hicaz transfoms everything to piss race:hitwall:
 
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I have always wondered why can't we hear of any scientific or literary accomplishments under the rule of the Ottoman empire? Why aren't there Avecine, Ibn Rush, Alrazi, Ibn Khaldoun, Ibn Arabi...etc in all of the hundreds of years they have ruled over vast parts of the world?
 
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They were trading spices :D

Next he will claim, Arabs taught the Greeks democracy, Arabs taught the Turks warfare, Arabs taught the Persians statesmanship, Arabs taught the Chinese print, mythical Arabs conquered 100% of the world! we are 100% pure DNA!!!! STRONK!!!
Thats why Europe doesn't want extremly civilizated Arabs in their country. Because
of the historical complex:)
 
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I have always wondered why can't we hear of any scientific or literary accomplishments under the rule of the Ottoman empire? Why aren't there Avecine, Ibn Rush, Alrazi, Ibn Khaldoun, Ibn Arabi...etc in all of the hundreds of years they have ruled over vast parts of the world?
Then educate yourself...

Ottoman Era

 
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These arabs never tired of being owned... Again and again... I like it :)
 
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They were trading spices :D

Next he will claim, Arabs taught the Greeks democracy, Arabs taught the Turks warfare, Arabs taught the Persians statesmanship, Arabs taught the Chinese print, mythical Arabs conquered 100% of the world! we are 100% pure DNA!!!! STRONK!!!
Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilisations thought those Greeks democracy..Arabs were always great fighter in their time much before Islam, Babylon was from Mesopotamia..Mesopotamia has calculators and printed on rock see the Sumerian civilisation.. the Egyptians had papyrus.. the last part is just rant on your part, no one has claimed that!
 
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Turks were excellent military force before Mamluks and continued to be after them too, the Seldjuk were Turco-Persian empire.
Turks established states and empires before Arabs had any contact with them, claiming Arabs being the reason for their success is quite arrogant.

LIST OF HISTORIC TURKIC STATES AND EMPIRES

Xiongnu (3rd century BC-4th century AD)
Huns (4th century-5th century)
Gokturk State (552-744)
Bulgars (2nd-9th century)
Great Bulgaria (580s-635)
Volga Bulgaria (800-1236)
Pechenegs (860-1091)
Khazars (7th-10th century)
Uyghur State (744-840)
Kyrgyz State (840-920)
Kypchaks
Kimeks
Saqsin
Kara-Khanid Khanate (840-1042)
Later Tang Dynasty in China (923-936)
Later Jin Dynasty in China (936-947)
Later Han Dynasty in China (948-951)
Ghaznavid Empire (962-1187)
Khwarezm-Shahs (1097-1231)
Seljuk Turks (1073-1307)
Kara-kitays (1207-1487)
Mamluks (1250-1517)
Karamanoğlu (13th century-1487)
Black Sheep Turks (1375-1468)
Khanate of Kazan (1438-1552)
Khanate of Astrakhan (1430s-1554)
Siberia Khanate (1430s-1576)
Qasim Khanate (15th -17th century)
Kazakh Khanate (1456-1731)
Khanate of Crimea (1441-1783)
Jagoldai (15th-17th century)
Ottoman Empire (1299-1922)
Mughal Empire (1526-1707)
Safavid Empire (1501-1722)

Turkic-Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan (13th century)
Golden Horde (Kipchak Khanate) (1227-1502)
Turkic-Mongol Empire of Timur Lenk (1370-1506)

Turkic States in Eastern Europe
The Avar kingdom
Crimean Khanate (1441-1783)
Kardeşim, bir sey bilmeden konuşma. Selcuklara Turk-fars dersen komik duruma düşersin. Wikipedia da bakıp buraya yazma, tarih bilmeyenler yazmasın amk.
 
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