Turkey to develop fighter jets by 2023 and wants nukes

[Flash_Ninja]

Nope. Turks are smart and determined people. Saudis, kinda opposite. Plus Turkey doesn’t pose any threat to Saudis. Iranian tried and failed.

There is a possibility that Pakistan may already have nukes stationed outside either with Turkey or Saudi May be both.

I dont think theres nukes stationed there, but SA is under our nuclear umbrella, while Turkey is under NATO's

 

[mike2000 is back]

Turkey won't ever have nuclear ability *wink**wink* just like Israel doesn't *wink* *wink*.

Lol Turkey is won't be getting nukes anytime soon. Turkey is won't be building one anyway. Turkey is not Israel and Turkey faces no threat to its existence a,i hasn't fought several existential wars with her neighbours, Turkey isn't surrounded by enemies that want to destroy it as well. Moreover Turkey doesn't have the same influence /lobby as Israel. So I don't think that's feasible. Even if Turkey did developed one, then it will lead to other countries in the region acquiring one at all cost . So what will be the point of this, considering the heavy sanctions and isolation the country will face after this?

 

[Ansu fati]

Lol Turkey is won't be getting nukes anytime soon. Turkey is won't be building one anyway. Turkey is not Israel and Turkey faces no threat to its existence a,i hasn't fought several existential wars with her neighbours, Turkey isn't surrounded by enemies that want to destroy it as well. Moreover Turkey doesn't have the same influence /lobby as Israel. So I don't think that's feasible. Even if Turkey did developed one, then it will lead to other countries in the region acquiring one at all cost . So what will be the point of this, considering the heavy sanctions and isolation the country will face after this?

There’s no reason for nukes now but after 2030swhen conventional capabilities are developed nuclear ones won’t be a problem no one can stop turkey after 2030s

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hence, I call Paks the smartest among the Muslims in terms of the ultimate defense - they have got both indigenous fighters and nukes....

 

[Ruhnama]

German company announced it traced F35 from 150km.

Yes but that system must need know where the direction of the aircraft, and when the aircraft take off etc
If work like that, first to counter f35 send some spy near airbase and send report to radar base to locate the f35
CMIIW

 

[KAL-EL]

German company announced it traced F35 from 150km.

It “announced”. Any hard aeronautical data that you can post? Thanks!

 

[Deino]

Do we really need yet another TFX thread??

 

[Trango Towers]

It “announced”. Any hard aeronautical data that you can post? Thanks!

Yes there is a thread open on pdf on this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...ary/aviation/amp29307410/radar-tracking-f-35/

 

[Bismarck]

It “announced”. Any hard aeronautical data that you can post? Thanks!

Which kind of data by whom you want?

 

[UzaySan]

Turkey doesnt even have a nuclear reactor. We wont have any nukes in 20 years...untill someone gives us ready enriched radioactive element.

 

[Trango Towers]

Turkey doesnt even have a nuclear reactor. We wont have any nukes in 20 years...untill someone gives us ready enriched radioactive element.

Dont be so negative.

 

[Indos]

Turkey doesnt even have a nuclear reactor. We wont have any nukes in 20 years...untill someone gives us ready enriched radioactive element.

Do you have an experimental nuclear reactor ? a small nuclear reactor which is used to study about nuclear technology and not to produce electricity ?

 

[UzaySan]

Do you have an experimental nuclear reactor ? a small nuclear reactor which is used to study about nuclear technology and not to produce electricity ?

yes there is

 

[ANMDT]

Do you have an experimental nuclear reactor ? a small nuclear reactor which is used to study about nuclear technology and not to produce electricity ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ÇNAEM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_TRIGA_Mark-II_Training_and_Research_Reactor

 

[dBSPL]

Do you have an experimental nuclear reactor ? a small nuclear reactor which is used to study about nuclear technology and not to produce electricity ?

Here is the summary of the Turkey's nuclear energy activities , international concerns and NATO's nuclear arsenal.

Turkey joined NATO in 1952. since 1959 the USA has kept nuclear weapons there in different configurations, for detering to the USSR. Until 1963, the US arsenal consisted of Jupiter missiles and at a later date of B61 type nuclear bombs. In the 1980s there were around 500 US nuclear warheads in Turkey, out of which were 300 bombs can be carried by aircraft. These bombs (up to 200 kilotons) were intended for four Turkish F-4, F-104 and F-100 squadrons deployed in the following airbases: Erhac, Murted (ironically , currently S400 battalion is here), Eskisehir and Balikesir.

The current NATO nuclear arsenal in Turkey consists of upgraded bombs of the same type, having a maximum energy output of 340 kilotons, depending on the specific configuration. None of the aircraft in Turkey, with the exception of the F-16, are able to carry the B61 type nuclear bombs that are used by the Americans. Turkey wants to acquire F-35 fighters which, as estimated, will be adapted to carrying these bombs. (In the last few years, speculation has emerged about the transfer of this arsenal to Romania.)

In 1969 Turkey signed the NPT (the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons/Technology). In 1982, it reaffirmed the Treaty. Turkey also signed the BTWC (The Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention) and CWC (Chemical Weapons Convention). Moreover, "officially" Turkey opposes the nuclear arming of the Middle East to this day, and attempts to promote the demilitarization of nuclear weapons.

Over the years, Turkey has aspired to develop a civilian nuclear program for the supply of electrical power. Turkey imports most of its energy in the form of fuels and gas, and nuclear energy could provide energy independence. This is the point where concerns regarding a possible military program emerge. A 2014 report on a German website, based on estimates by the German intelligence service, claimed that Turkey was adopting the Iranian model – a civilian nuclear program on the surface, with a military program underneath it, - quite literally.

The Turkish Atomic Energy Commission (TAEC) was established in 1956 for the purpose of engaging in the development of nuclear reactors for the supply of electricity and for research purposes. In 1961, Turkey's first nuclear research center (CNRTC – Cekmece Nuclear Research & Training Center) was established. A year later, a 1-megawatt reactor was built at the center. In 1966, a second research center, ANRTC, (Ankara Nuclear Research & Training Center) was established. Both research centers worked on a program that involved the establishment of a heavy water based nuclear reactor with an output of 300-400 megawatts. But further plans never materialized. Later programs involved the establishment of reactors at Akkuyu Bay and Sinop.

All of these programs were halted following the (US backed) military coup in Turkey in 1980. After the coup, the USA raised suspicions that Turkey was helping Pakistan acquire nuclear know-how. At that time, NATO had stopped the Pakistani uranium enrichment program, and according to some sources the latter turned to Turkey for assistance of nuclear smugling. Suspicions were voiced by the USA to the effect that Turkey was providing Pakistan with nuclear materials that had the potential of being developed for use in nuclear weapons. (no matter how ridiculous) The USA even suspected that Turkey was helping Pakistan enrich uranium. At the same time, Greece too, accused Turkey of developing nuclear weapons.

In 1982, a Nuclear Energy Authority was established in Turkey. In 1983, Turkey initiated a renewed effort toward the establishment of an energy reactor. The idea was to have three reactors built according to the BOT model with the foreign contractor operating the reactor over a period of 15 years. However, this effort never materialized, for various reasons, notably the concerns of western countries that Turkey would use these reactors to develop nuclear weapons.

In the late 1980s, concerns about the possibility that Turkey was developing nuclear weapons increased owing to the nuclear cooperation agreement Turkey had signed with Argentina in 1988. Turkey intended to purchase an Argos PWR type reactor developed in Argentina, in the previous year. Both countries were looking into other activities, including the mining of uranium and reactors for the production of nuclear fuel. Argentina's objective was to use Turkey as a model client with the intention of marketing reactors of that type in our region. Turkey, for its part, wanted to acquire from Argentina another reactor – type CAREM-25.

CAREM-25 was a 25-megawatt reactor and regarded as "too small to produce energy and too large for research purposes, but suitable for the production of plutonium", by senior Turkish official stated at the time. According to the agreement, Turkey should have financed two such reactors, one to be erected in Turkey and the other in Argentina. This was one of the biggest causes of USA concern which is the Turkey's possible cooperation with Pakistan on nuclear smuggling over this.

Despite all these claims, Turkey has followed a fairly transparent attitude in this field since 1960 and has not detected any activity contrary to international agreements. However, this is far from proof that Turkey's overall capacity in all circumstances.

Although Turkey has long experience in the operation of research reactors,it has not been able to achieve to use nuclear energy nationwide since the 1970s. Akkuyu NPP is the result of a 40-year dream.

In the current planning, 1 NPP construction is in progress. (Russia-Akkuyu) A contract has been signed for the construction of 1 NPP. (Sinop-Japan / France) 1 NPP location studies is still in progress, probably it will be build at Bulgaria border , Igneada. China stands at the forefront as a potential partner. if I remember correctly, there was a planning like 4 or 5 x 4800/5000mw NPP , with the last two/three facilities, technology transfer and national production capability will be at the forefront. In its 30-year projection, Turkey hopes to obtain at least 15% of its total energy production from nuclear sources.