Turkey: tired of high-pitched foreign policy

[Targon]

Do not bring that genetics stupidity here again.

 

[Serpentine]

I dont care about Iranian genes. After Syria collapses, the turn will be Iran's. Turkey should decide what to do about it. Perhaps Iran should decide as well.

I dont think an Iranic Iran is a friend where Israel and his allies Kurds try to dominate ME.

You have some serious reasoning issues.
What do you mean Iranic Iran is not a friend?Can I say a Turkish Turkey is our enemy too?
Iran is an Iranic nation and will always be Iranic.Even those Azeris or Turkmens are Iranian too.We don't have any difference we are all the same.But you see everything thorough Turk/Non Turk glasses and that is an obvious racism.Unfortunately there are a few Turkish members here who have some Pan-Turk attitudes.
After Syria it's no one's turn.I assure you.You should care more about your country rather than others.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

You have some serious reasoning issues.
What do you mean Iranic Iran is not a friend?Can I say a Turkish Turkey is our enemy too?
Iran is an Iranic nation and will always be Iranic.Even those Azeris or Turkmens are Iranian too.We don't have any difference we are all the same.But you see everything thorough Turk/Non Turk glasses and that is an obvious racism.Unfortunately there are a few Turkish members here who have some Pan-Turk attitudes.
After Syria it's no one's turn.I assure you.You should care more about your country rather than others.

As i said, these are difficult times. Nothing personal. Survival of the fittest.

Iran has made its choice by siding with Armenia and Russia in Caucasus. In case of ME gone to hell, we need a peaceful Shias on our back. Also, Turkey and other Turkic States should guarantee Iranian Turks' safety and interests.

 

[Surenas]

Also, Turkey and other Turkic States should guarantee Iranian Turks' safety and interests.

What do you want to do? By guaranteeing such safety you mingle in the intern affairs of other countries and by doing that you need to put the force-card on table. It's the same as Iranians would say that Iran and other Iranic states should guarantee the safety of Iranic Kurds in Turkey. You are an idiot.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

What do you want to do? By guaranteeing such safety you mingle in the intern affairs of other countries and by doing that you need to put the force-card on table. It's the same as Iranians would say that Iran and other Iranic states should guarantee the safety of Iranic Kurds in Turkey. You are an idiot.

Too early to call me idiot. While Middleast being reshaped, Turkey should not stay indifferent. Perhaps Iran's time has come to back off.

Btw you already are showing unity with Kurds, and Iran is handshaking with Armenians on Karabakh. Time for Iran to change.

 

[Surenas]

Too early to call me idiot. While Middleast being reshaped, Turkey should not stay indifferent. Perhaps Iran's time has come to back off.

Btw you already are showing unity with Kurds, and Iran is handshaking with Armenians on Karabakh. Time for Iran to change.

The only reshaping that occurs in the Middle East is the fact that Kurds are become more independent by the second and that strong Islamic conservatism steps up on the political scene. I would argue that both things doesn't benefit Turkey's interests at all.

Of all Arab revolutions in North-Africa and the Middle East only the Syrian one is not in Iran's advantage. All the others were hailed by Iran's supreme leader.

 

[Serpentine]

As i said, these are difficult times. Nothing personal. Survival of the fittest.

Iran has made its choice by siding with Armenia and Russia in Caucasus. In case of ME gone to hell, we need a peaceful Shias on our back. Also, Turkey and other Turkic States should guarantee Iranian Turks' safety and interests.

Iranian Azeris are safe.Don't worry about them.So we have a right to worry about Kurds security in Turkey too,right?
Iran has always been peaceful,especially toward Turkey in past 400 years.Iran hasn't sided with Armenia,Iran is helping it because all other borders to Armenia are closed.We are giving them food,fuel and technical support.If you remember well,Iran and Azerbaijan had great relation too until few years ago,until some nutjob Pan Turks in Azerbaijan started big mouthing about Iran,and also becasue of Aliyev policies toward Iran.
In the Karabakh war,Iran stayed neutral,helped both countries during the war,but Turkey didn't.You can't even think about blaming Iran on Azeri-Armenian issues.
Azerbaijan uses Iran roads to supply its exclave of Nakhchavan right now.How can we be their enemy?Even with all these problems,two countries still have relatively good relations.Azeris come visit Iran,Iranian visit there and people are friends together.a

 

[Surenas]

Iranian Azeris are safe.Don't worry about them.So we have a right to worry about Kurds security in Turkey too,right?
Iran has always been peaceful,especially toward Turkey in past 400 years.Iran hasn't sided with Armenia,Iran is helping it because all other borders to Armenia are closed.We are giving them food,fuel and technical support.If you remember well,Iran and Azerbaijan had great relation too until few years ago,until some nutjob Pan Turks in Azerbaijan started big mouthing about Iran,and also becasue of Aliyev policies toward Iran.
In the Karabakh war,Iran stayed neutral,helped both countries during the war,but Turkey didn't.You can't even think about blaming Iran on Azeri-Armenian issues.
Azerbaijan uses Iran roads to supply its exclave of Nakhchavan right now.How can we be their enemy?Even with all these problems,two countries still have relatively good relations.Azeris come visit Iran,Iranian visit there and people are friends together.a

Why the hell should we try to convince the Turks here how we treat the Azeri's and why we support Armenia? It's non of their businesses.

 

[Serpentine]

Why the hell should we try to convince the Turks here how we treat the Azeri's and why we support Armenia? It's non of their businesses.

I mentioned some facts,it's good that they know them.If they choose to close their eyes on them,that's another thing.You should at least try once to answer them.Sometimes some people spread such a big lies about Iran that I can't leave them unanswered.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Iranian Azeris are safe.Don't worry about them.So we have a right to worry about Kurds security in Turkey too,right?
Iran has always been peaceful,especially toward Turkey in past 400 years.Iran hasn't sided with Armenia,Iran is helping it because all other borders to Armenia are closed.We are giving them food,fuel and technical support.If you remember well,Iran and Azerbaijan had great relation too until few years ago,until some nutjob Pan Turks in Azerbaijan started big mouthing about Iran,and also becasue of Aliyev policies toward Iran.
In the Karabakh war,Iran stayed neutral,helped both countries during the war,but Turkey didn't.You can't even think about blaming Iran on Azeri-Armenian issues.
Azerbaijan uses Iran roads to supply its exclave of Nakhchavan right now.How can we be their enemy?Even with all these problems,two countries still have relatively good relations.Azeris come visit Iran,Iranian visit there and people are friends together.a

Ok. Let me state it clearly:

USA has Been weakened by several factors. When superpower feels threatened, it suddenly becomes more eager to use hard power.

Syria is finished. Sunnis will dominate future of Syria. After Syria, only obstacle would remain: Iran. It is not about if, but when. When is Iran gonna face the fury of USA?

If USA leaves Middleast without creating balance, Turkey gonna be in dire situation. With Iran is in Russia's side, Turkey has lot to lose.

 

[TurAr]

Why the hell should we try to convince the Turks here how we treat the Azeri's and why we support Armenia? It's non of their businesses.

The amazing thing here is, you were too happy that you're not living in Iran because of the corruption, discrimination... But you are too fvcking sure that Azeri Turks are treated fair.

You are free to come up with Kurds in Turkey as long as you avoid praising PKK and posting its founder's monkey face.

 

[Surenas]

The amazing thing here is that, you were too happy that you're not living in Iran because of the corruption, discrimination... But you are too fvcking sure that Azeri Turks are treated fair.

You are free to come up with Kurds in Turkey as long as you avoid praising PKK and posting its founder's monkey face.

In my opinion Azeri's should have more freedoms and some autonomy. That's for sure. But I don't agree that we are moral obligated to notify Turks or Turkey how we treat them and why we are supporting Armenia. It's simply non of your business. Just as it's non of our business why you guys support Azerbaijan and how you guys are dealing with the Kurds.

 

[Serpentine]

Ok. Let me state it clearly:

USA has Been weakened by several factors. When superpower feels threatened, it suddenly becomes more eager to use hard power.

Syria is finished. Sunnis will dominate future of Syria. After Syria, only obstacle would remain: Iran. It is not about if, but when. When is Iran gonna face the fury of USA?

If USA leaves Middleast without creating balance, Turkey gonna be in dire situation. With Iran is in Russia's side, Turkey has lot to lose.

I don't get it,you are against an invasion to Iran or you support it?

The amazing thing here is, you were too happy that you're not living in Iran because of the corruption, discrimination... But you are too fvcking sure that Azeri Turks are treated fair.

You are free to come up with Kurds in Turkey as long as you avoid praising PKK and posting its founder's monkey face.

Ok he lives abroad.But I live in Iran,I have close contacts with Azeris and I certainly know better than you how they are treated.I support some of their rights,like education in their own language.But there isn't any discrimination against Azeris.Put in your head and please don't spread those propaganda Pan-Turk lies here.I care more about my Azeri brothers than you.You should stick to your own country's affairs.

 

[TurAr]

In my opinion Azeri's should have more freedoms and some autonomy. That's for sure. But I don't agree that we are moral obligated to notify Turks or Turkey how we treat them and why we are supporting Armenia. It's simply non of your business. Just as it's non of our business why you guys support Azerbaijan and how you guys are dealing with the Kurds.

Like you said, it is your opinion so you are free to not participate these discussions. But i assure you it is our business. And don't get surprised if you saw a Turk questioning the situation of other Turks in other countries.

 

[Surenas]

Like you said, it is your opinion so you are free to not participate these discussions. But i assure you it is our business. And don't get surprised if you saw a Turk questioning the situation of other Turks in other countries.

They are not Turks, but Azeri's. They are not waiting for your help nor for your mingling. You guys should stick your questioning to the Turkish diaspora in Europe.