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Very interesting. So Gulen and Erdogan have similar ideology which is anti-Kemalist, but Gulen is favoured by America for some reason and is potentially more dangerous than Erdogan.

M.E politics is such a mess. :lol:
Erdogan is not islamist or anti-Kemalist. Erdogan has no ideology, he only looks for his own benefit. He has no capacity to rule out independent policies. That is why he was a puppet of Fethollah in past, and used against Kemalists. Now he is a puppet of Kemalists and being used against Fethollah.

His only good skill is he can make really good speeches that can effect on people, but his head is empty.
 
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Jerusalem has hotter weather than Tel Aviv. Bad move on Trump's part.

Tel-Aviv is almost always hotter than Jerusalem.

Erdogan is not islamist or anti-Kemalist. Erdogan has no ideology, he only looks for his own benefit. He has no capacity to rule out independent policies. That is why he was a puppet of Fethollah in past, and used against Kemalists. Now he is a puppet of Kemalists and being used against Fethollah.

His only good skill is he can make really good speeches that can effect on people, but his head is empty.

Erdogan is clearly a Muslim Brotherhood adherent!

And he's spoken ill of Ataturk before. He's no Kemalist that's for sure. He hates secularism.
 
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Erdogan is not islamist or anti-Kemalist. Erdogan has no ideology, he only looks for his own benefit.
I guess you know better, but to foreigners he sounds like an islamist-psychopath hybrid.
 
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And he's spoken ill of Ataturk before. He's no Kemalist that's for sure. He hates secularism.
Yes he did, not because he hates Atatürk, because he was a puppet of Fethollah islamist terrorist.

And now Erdoğan is adoring Atatürk day/night, not because he loves Atatürk, but because he is Kemalists' puppet right now.

He has no personality, he has an empty brain which leds others to rule him. He only cares his own benefits and right now his only benefit is "survive". There is no other people group in State that he can trust other than Kemalists.

I guess you know better, but to foreigners he sounds like an islamist-psychopath hybrid.
I know. That is why most foreigners are facing hard times to understand recent changes with him, i mean he was saying "Atatürk is that, secularism is this, bad bad bad" and now he is saying "Secularism is must, it is not against Islam. Atatürk is our great national leader and we are following his path" lol.

That change is impossible to be understood by a typical foreigner that follows western mainsteam media, but actually it is pretty simple. He was a puppet of Islamist Fethollah in past, now he is our puppet.
 
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After the 2009 incident with lsrael our diplomatic relations deteriorated but that was it.

Because of the Arab spring, our Economic ties with Middle Eastern countries collapsed meanwhile with lsrael it quintupled :)

To this day l can't understand why we care so much about this whole Palestinian issue in the first place, it was the Palestinians themselves who got greedy and killed Turkish soldiers in order to get independent, they've made a choice by trusting the Brits so now they need to accept its consequences.

Erdoğan at this point is just playing to his own audience.

Yes he did, not because he hates Atatürk, because he was a puppet of Fethollah islamist terrorist.

And now Erdoğan is adoring Atatürk day/night, not because he loves Atatürk, but because he is Kemalists' puppet right now.

He has no personality, he is an empty brain which leds others to rule him. He only cares his own benefits and right now his only benefit is "survive". There is no other people group in State that he can trust other than Kemalists.


I know. That is why most foreigners are facing hard times to understand recent changes with him, i mean he was saying "Atatürk is that, secularism is this, bad bad bad" and now he is saying "Secularism is must, it is not against Islam. Atatürk is our great national leader and we are following his path" lol.

That change is impossible to be understood by a typical foreigner that follows western mainsteam media, but actually it is pretty simple. He was a puppet of Islamist Fethollah in past, now he is our puppet.

The sudden change is quite understandable, he has no other choice any more. He's a smart politician that's all.
 
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Erdogan is clearly a Muslim Brotherhood adherent!

And he's spoken ill of Ataturk before. He's no Kemalist that's for sure. He hates secularism.
Well...
Erdogan calls for a secular Egypt



Erdogan is opportunist, he takes what fits him most.


AKP GHQ hours after the coup attempt.

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If Trump recognizes Jerusalem as capital of Israel he will be impeached.

By just who exactly lol

Not that I think it's necessarily a good idea for him to take this action, but he certainly won't be impeached over it.

The forces who would like to impeach him over other things are not in control of the House of Representatives.
 
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Such a hypocrisy!!!!!!!

Conquers of Constantinople crying loud against conquest of Jerusalem.
Would Turks return Istanbul to Vatican, if Jerusalem left for Palestinians.
 
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