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The modern day Arabs are a disgrace to humanity, a bunch of spineless fools, who are championing and defending the enemies of Islam. Instead of raising there voice against the forces of Dajjal, they are more preoccupied with insulting other Muslim leaders. The Middle East is a laughing stock, the sick man of the world.

It's not the Arabs fault that they have such dispicable greedy leaders. We need to band to together, otherwise our whole region will see nothing but suffering.
 
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The modern day Arabs are a disgrace to humanity, a bunch of spineless fools, who are championing and defending the enemies of Islam. Instead of raising there voice against the forces of Dajjal, they are more preoccupied with insulting other Muslim leaders. The Middle East is a laughing stock, the sick man of the world.

What Dajjal have to do with this? You are naive, none of our leaders are optimal leaders from Islamic perspective. Let alone do our people possess the qualities needed to make the world a better place, and our immediate regions.
 
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Alright at this point it's just blatant racism by certain members here. Instead of keeping topic related to OP, we see racist members go on rant against Arabs and speak down on them, as if Arabs are supposed to hand over their countries on platter to foreigners or they are 'cowards and agents of Zionists' and what not. Even though Arabs in the ME are the only ethnic group there that has confronted US, Russia and Israel , not with rhetoric but literal conflict on the ground.

People need to stay on topic.

What I mean by arabs is KSA and the bunch with oil, they are the ones bragging and doing nothing to help their fellow arabs.

The countries that are responsible for people like Osama Bin Laid.

Palestinians and Syrians, I don't actually see as arabs.

There is big difference in the mindset/mentality.
 
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It's not the Arabs fault that they have such dispicable greedy leaders. We need to band to together, otherwise our whole region will see nothing but suffering.

All our leaders are greedy and have made mistakes if you compare them to standards of the Caliphs(the early ones). One of them used to sleep on the floor outside some nights. Anyway lately some of them are taking up issues that they need to, but still the MB- non-MB divide is hurting us.

What I mean by arabs is KSA and the bunch with oil, they are the ones bragging and doing nothing to help their fellow arabs.

The countries that are responsible for people like Osama Bin Laid.

Palestinians and Syrians, I don't actually see as arabs.

There is big difference in the mindset/mentality.

You need to always observe social trends while observing political ones, that's how I've been looking at it. So when you observe in social trends that people today or more inclined towards nationalism or at least just strictly caring for interests of their nation, then you can understand why there is so much mistrust in the region. People today either feel used or feel threatened. This is why Muslim people of various nations are paranoid when any nation wants to take the lead and assert itself in a region. If KSA became powerful and asserted itself as regional leader, Turks and Iranians won't be comfortable. If Turks assert themselves, Iranians and Arabs won't warm up to it. If Iranians ... you get the point ....

Right now by looking at social trends, we are not at a point among the common people where they really want to help each other and make a great Muslim nation for sake of God. So news like this shouldn't surprise anyone. Although I think nevertheless that was uncalled for. UAE leadership needs to mature in some ways.
 
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“Now you see unfortunately those near (Madina) unashamedly, relentlessly are making slanderous claims. First, know your place! It means you do not know this country, you do not know Erdogan, you do not know about Erdogan’s ancestors,” he thundered.
It's funny because both Erdoğan and the UAE minister are wrong about Erdoğan's ancestors. :rolleyes:
 
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What Dajjal have to do with this? You are naive, none of our leaders are optimal leaders from Islamic perspective. Let alone do our people possess the qualities needed to make the world a better place, and our immediate regions.

My dear naive little Brother Dajjal has every thing to do with the present situation of the Muslim world. Please purchase a pair of glasses and watch the news, to witness how submissive the Arab leaders are to there Zionists masters.

If you can't accept the reality of Dajjal, then you are going against the teachings of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) who spoke about the end of times and how the Zionist will attempt to control Jerusalem. Instead of being a part-time Muslim please learn to read.

. Accept the fact the Arab's have become spineless, the sick man of the world, who even with oil could do nothing to help the Muslim world. Look at the Arab peninsula, it's burning, you have become the laughing stock of the world. Instead of showing solidarity with your Turkish brothers, you decided to attack them. But remember on the day of judgment Allah will punish you for not defending Islam.
 
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All our leaders are greedy and have made mistakes if you compare them to standards of the Caliphs(the early ones). One of them used to sleep on the floor outside some nights. Anyway lately some of them are taking up issues that they need to, but still the MB- non-MB divide is hurting us.



You need to always observe social trends while observing political ones, that's how I've been looking at it. So when you observe in social trends that people today or more inclined towards nationalism or at least just strictly caring for interests of their nation, then you can understand why there is so much mistrust in the region. People today either feel used or feel threatened. This is why Muslim people of various nations are paranoid when any nation wants to take the lead and assert itself in a region. If KSA became powerful and asserted itself as regional leader, Turks and Iranians won't be comfortable. If Turks assert themselves, Iranians and Arabs won't warm up to it. If Iranians ... you get the point ....

Right now by looking at social trends, we are not at a point among the common people where they really want to help each other and make a great Muslim nation for sake of God. So news like this shouldn't surprise anyone. Although I think nevertheless that was uncalled for. UAE leadership needs to mature in some ways.

If I was an arab outside these rich oil countries I would be so mad at them.

Today we can't say we are from Turkey or from Pakistan to foreigners without A LOT of negativity and terrorism associated with it.

I can't even imagine how bad it would be to be like you from Palestine also known as "arab" globally, people would look at you probably even more negatively.

It's because of these oil countries and their terrorism and mindset, we are all associated with chopping the heads of people, we are all associated with isis. All thanks to these rich arab countries.

All they are good for is shaming out all the muslims on this earth and bragging about how they spend their oil money.

And arab from KSA reading this post will think "he is jelous of our oil", because this is how their mind works.

But truth is I'm angry we as Turks take in 3+ million syrians and they do NOTHING, then have the stomach to keep bragging on forums about how good they are over and over and over, as can be seen in this thread.
It's like they are brainwashed or something.

Syrians and Palestinians are different, I don't know much about history of the area but I highly doubt Syrians and Palestinians have the same DNA as those in KSA. I think you are just local people that adopted their language and religion.

But remember on the day of judgment Allah will punish you for defending Islam.

Allah has already punished these rich arabs, they don't know what hard work is.

It's like they won the lottery (oil) then they spend it and brag about it.

Soon their oil will run out, they will go back to how they lived in the 1930's:

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So without oil they are not much different than cavemen, this picture is 1930's but looks like a picture from before Jesus was born.

In comparison this is Turkey in 1930's:

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Allah has already punished these rich arabs, they don't know what hard work is.

It's like they won the lottery (oil) then they spend it and brag about it.

Soon their oil will run out, they will go back to how they lived in the 1930's:



So without oil they are not much different than cavemen, this picture is 1930's but looks like a picture from before Jesus was born.

In comparison this is Turkey in 1930's:

Your absolutely right Brother. What have the Arab's achieved in the last 100 years? Oh, yeah, they have learned the art of becoming the lapdog of the American's. Class and honor cannot be purchased, sadly the modern day Arabs have become a household slave. Saudi Arabia is a ticking bomb waiting to be exploded as the monarchy and the mullah's controlling the country will push the people to rise up against them and defend the honor of Islam against the Zionists.

Oil is a dead commodity, which means in the near future these Arab leaders will have no new shiny toys. I can't wait for that day to come By the way Turkey looks amazing in the 1930s.
 
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If I was an arab outside these rich oil countries I would be so mad at them.

Today we can't say we are from Turkey or from Pakistan to foreigners without A LOT of negativity and terrorism associated with it.

I can't even imagine how bad it would be to be like you from Palestine also known as "arab" globally, people would look at you probably even more negatively.

It's because of these oil countries and their terrorism and mindset, we are all associated with chopping the heads of people, we are all associated with isis. All thanks to these rich arab countries.

All they are good for is shaming out all the muslims on this earth and bragging about how they spend their oil money.

And arab from KSA reading this post will think "he is jelous of our oil", because this is how their mind works.

But truth is I'm angry we as Turks take in 3+ million syrians and they do NOTHING, then have the stomach to keep bragging on forums about how good they are over and over and over, as can be seen in this thread.
It's like they are brainwashed or something.

Syrians and Palestinians are different, I don't know much about history of the area but I highly doubt Syrians and Palestinians have the same DNA as those in KSA. I think you are just local people that adopted their language and religion.



Allah has already punished these rich arabs, they don't know what hard work is.

It's like they won the lottery (oil) then they spend it and brag about it.

Soon their oil will run out, they will go back to how they lived in the 1930's:

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So without oil they are not much different than cavemen, this picture is 1930's but looks like a picture from before Jesus was born.

In comparison this is Turkey in 1930's:

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Keep barking and posting some photos of Afro-Arabs in the middle of nowhere somewhere in Yemen while posting a photo of the middle of Istanbul built by Europeans featuring Western built cars and roads and people wearing Western clothes. Turkish contribution to this? A big fat zero.

This is Makkah from the 1920's



Let me try again.

You are the off-spring of Greeks, Armenians, Arabs, Semites, Iranians, Kurds and others. Afro-Turks too. Last past few centuries (1-2) with Bosnian, Albanian, Bulgarian and Circassian/Caucasian in general (all the light-skinned people) arrivals. A few 1000 Turkish steppe nomads slaughtered your people and Turkified you and later Arabized and Islamized you as confirmed by DNA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Turkish_people

That is your history. Before that you were ruled by Arabs and used as slaves and eunuchs by Arabs and other Muslims from the Arab world to South Asia. Unlike Arabs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_slaves_in_the_Delhi_Sultanate

Even the elite Ottomans considered Turk an insult as I showed you.

There is not a more deluded and self-lying people in the region. Even after the era of genetics you have Middle Eastern looking Turks claiming that they descend from 1.6 meter tall Turkic steppe nomads from Kyrgyzstan.





Speaking the language of conquerors and following the religion of conquerors and you dare to talk about masters. Your entire worldview is a huge big lie that history and now DNA shatters to pieces.

No fucking wonder that your likes are extremely deluded. I would be too if I was one of you.

No other examples of such delusion expect for maybe Eastern European Jews claiming that they are direct descendants of Semites and 100 % Semitic.

Lastly don't project your own feelings about being a fake Turk on others.

Now go cry forever.:lol:

So either you get lost and stop trying to get the attention of Arabs on this forum or I will single-handedly deal with you as usual. In short know your place. There is one small Turkey (3 times smaller than KSA and with a 20 million smaller population than 1 single Arab country - Egypt, and with a Kurdish population of 20 million) and then there are 500 million Arabs spread on 20 + Arab countries on two continents the size of almost all of Russia combined. So keep barking. UAE and Qatar combined have a economy (GDP) almost as big as that of 80 million Turkey. Get off your high horse.


Saving this post for the future and on other forums in case similar barking likes of you ever appear again.

You talk about oil and gas forgetting that the non-oil and gas sector of the GCC let alone the entire Arab world is many times bigger than the Turkish economy and that many non-oil rich Arab countries have similar or even higher living standards than Turkey. You will have to wait forever as the Arab world throughout recorded history has been one of the most wealthy regions in the world.
 
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Money spoiled you: Erdoğan slams UAE FM in Ottoman Pasha row
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United Arab Emirates (UAE) Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahyan is “spoiled with money and petrol,” President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has said, in retaliation to the minister accusing Ottoman-era commander Fahreddin Pasha of “ransacking” Medina during the First World War.

“This man is spoiled with petrol, and spoiled with money. While my ancestors were busy defending Medina, you impudent man, what were your ancestors doing? You should account for this first,” Erdoğan said on Dec. 21.

Turkish officials have been on the offensive since Dec. 16, when al-Zayed retweeted a Twitter post accusing Fahreddin Pasha of “stealing the goods of the people of Medina,” and “embezzling handwritten manuscript artefacts by allowing their removal to Istanbul via Damascus” during the Siege of Medina in 1916.

“These are Erdoğan’s ancestors and their history with Arab Muslims,” the post added.

Presidential Spokesperson İbrahim Kalın delivered the first response came on Dec. 19, when he criticized al-Nahyan for redistributing “propaganda lies that seek to turn Turks and Arabs against one another.”

During the First World War, Medina came under siege in 1916 after Mecca’s Sharif Hussain revolted against the Ottoman Empire, to side with British forces.

Fahreddin Pasha was the Ottoman commander who defended the city against Sharif Hussain’s forces until Abdullah I of Jordan entered Medina in 1919.

Erdoğan stressed the important role this historical figure played in “Medina’s defense,” slamming the UAE Minister for “distorting the truth.”

“If we did not know about Fahreddin Pasha’s role in Medina’s defense, any impertinent fool could be so vulgar, so vile and so extravagant as to say ‘Erdoğan’s ancestors are like that.’ But they are the real thieves,” he said.

He stated that during the siege Fahreddin Pasha transferred the sacred relics to Istanbul to “protect them against the British occupation.”

“These sacred relics remain in Istanbul’s Topkapı Palace, where people read the Koran 24 hours a day,” Erdoğan said.

“Such disrespectful people would not know what these relics mean. They are simply ignorant,” he added.

Diplomatic ties between the UAE and Turkey tumbled after Abu Dhabi supported Egyptian General el-Sisi’s government, which grabbed power in 2013 with a coup d’état that deposed Mohamed Morsi, Egypt’s first elected president and a key Turkish ally.

Erdoğan has also indirectly criticized the UAE after Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Bahrain cut ties with Qatar in June, accusing the country of financing terror.



Foreign Ministry summons charge d'affaires

Turkey’s foreign ministry on Dec. 21 summoned the charge d’affaires of the United Arab Emirates (UAE to Ankara after the country’s foreign minister accused Ottoman governor and commander Fahreddin Pasha of “ransacking” Medina in 1916 during the First World War, private broadcaster NTV has reported.

Foreign Ministry officials have reportedly conveyed Ankara’s displeasure over UAE foreign minister’s remarks on the pasha to the charge d’affaires.
 
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Your absolutely right Brother. What have the Arab's achieved in the last 100 years? Oh, yeah, they have learned the art of becoming the lapdog of the American's. Class and honor cannot be purchased, sadly the modern day Arabs have become a household slave. Saudi Arabia is a ticking bomb waiting to be exploded as the monarchy and the mullah's controlling the country will push the people to rise up against them and defend the honor of Islam against the Zionists.

Oil is a dead commodity, which means in the near future these Arab leaders will have no new shiny toys. I can't wait for that day to come By the way Turkey looks amazing in the 1930s.

Yeah I googled 1930s Turkey in google images, also came across another image which was pretty funny:

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I think it's a womens right demostration, the funny thing is the sign on the left "Yalniz Yatmak", it means "Sleep alone" I think women are protesting so they can sleep alone haha.

And this is Anarkali Bazaar, Lahore, Pakistan in 1930s, you were advanced too you had trams and trains back then as well:

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Problem with KSA is they revolted against the Ottoman empire and they wanted to be their own Sultan.

But problem is to be a Sultan like the Sultans in the Ottoman empire you need to do things for other muslims, expand and grow the empire as a whole, fight wars and so on.

Instead what we have in KSA and similar rich arab countries is selfish "kings" even kings fight for their people. So not sure what to call these people, lazy and selfish? =

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They are like those spoiled kids on instagram just showing off.

In simple terms I think these rulers are nothing but toys of the west, maybe they don't even control their own military and need to call daddy USA and ask for permission.
 
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In Saudi Arabia the ruling elite despise everything Turkish/Ottoman. They are constantly disparaging them, but the common folk revere Erdogan, and some call him "Ameer al moemeneen" because they know he is the only Muslim leader who has Islam's best interests at heart, and not a two-faced traitor.
So by extension all Gulf countries ( with the exception of Qatar) hate Turkey because they were the ones backed by UK/US against the Ottomans.
If Ergodan called a jihad millions of non Turks would follow him to the end
 
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@TurkeyForever

Seems like you need to go over my posts again my friend. As for my DNA, I am not ashamed of being Arab. And I don't say I am 'proud' to be an Arab either, just because I am humble and don't take ethnicity stuff too seriously. Some of us have semitic origins, some of us have Arab origins, it doesn't matter. I like Arabs as a people and they are fine people. Yes the desert tribes too in Saudi and wherever else.

My dear naive little Brother Dajjal has every thing to do with the present situation of the Muslim world. Please purchase a pair of glasses and watch the news, to witness how submissive the Arab leaders are to there Zionists masters.

If you can't accept the reality of Dajjal, then you are going against the teachings of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) who spoke about the end of times and how the Zionist will attempt to control Jerusalem. Instead of being a part-time Muslim please learn to read.

. Accept the fact the Arab's have become spineless, the sick man of the world, who even with oil could do nothing to help the Muslim world. Look at the Arab peninsula, it's burning, you have become the laughing stock of the world. Instead of showing solidarity with your Turkish brothers, you decided to attack them. But remember on the day of judgment Allah will punish you for not defending Islam.

Don't know what's wrong with you but I'm far from naive. You must be watching some Imran Hosein videos....
 
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Alright at this point it's just blatant racism by certain members here. Instead of keeping topic related to OP, we see racist members go on rant against Arabs and speak down on them, as if Arabs are supposed to hand over their countries on platter to foreigners or they are 'cowards and agents of Zionists' and what not. Even though Arabs in the ME are the only ethnic group there that has confronted US, Russia and Israel , not with rhetoric but literal conflict on the ground.

People need to stay on topic.

Biggest racists are Arabs here. They are the only ones who keep chatting crap about dna etc.

You haven’t seen the racist rants by the Arabs against Iranian, Turkish and Pakistani members? Works both ways, Arabs should stop trying to rewrite there no existent history which mostly was under foreign occupation.
 
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