Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[surya kiran]

Its not Turkish friends also , Turkey was conspirated by NATO to support ISIS & other terrorist groups , whose last target is turkey itself ?

This is Afghanistan all over again. And damn, it is going to get dirty. Pull out all investments from Turkey and dump it in Pakistan. And I am not kidding here.

Su-30 carry ancient passive missiles, better not try with AMRAAM equipped F-16. Also shooting down Turkish jets means goodbye to Bosporus and fast fall of Giraffe regime (or what remained of that regime).

What better way to test missiles than somebody else using them in a real war.

Btw, you chaps supplying any stuff to either side?

 

[NUCLEAR_WINTER]

Israel will realy backstab Putin when time arrives LOL

russians are a threat for Zion. they Need to be destroyed.

 

[ANMDT]

Based off of the Turkish radar image and flight path that is a lie. The area in question that the SU-24 flew over was 3 km. If the aircraft violated Turkish airspace it was no more then 17 seconds.

As for Turkey crying about airspace violations they regularly violate Greek airspace, Syrian airspace, and Iraqi airspace. Now with SU-30sm escorts and the s-400 any hostile Turkish aircraft can be shot down deep inside Turkey.

Iraqi Airspace violation of such you call is based on the agreement made with saddam regime, There is no violation or the new governments didnt as for a revise as well . Also we have right to hot-track the terrorists into iraq based on this agreement.

Syrian airspace ? Even we hit IS targets witout passing border.

Remember because of what the engagement rules are tightened, syrian shot down turkish fighter with no warning while off to international border ( But claimed to be extended on syrian side) "without warning " because they couldnt show any proof of warning a record or whatever. Even in 1st speech the Assad told he has no "information" on what happened probably some soldiers pampered by Russia in those times ,did it. ,
Come on everyone knows how Russian think themselves as " full of prestige" , even Turkey had meetings several times with them and indicated this point of airspace violation multiple times, and now one Douchebag pilot ignores the calls on emergency frequency which is even heard by passenger planes then Turkey is accused of shooting down? . Who gives Russian pilots to do Shortcuts over turkey ? Are their pilot disabled on turning around ? We should questionaire on the rather than just trolling by accusations on Turkey.

Neither S-400 nor a fighter plane can thouch a flying bird in the Turkish airspace as we are not intended on passing border, so everything is fine. Just a few weeks ago the same happened, and you trolls were moving around " ehehhee Turkey is scared of Russia and just warned the fighter cant do any else" now you saw we can do the things and pain the a$$ should be so deep till you cant relieve it.

The plane is warned since 30 miles as their direction was "toward " turkish airspace , 10 miles and 5 miles the warnings got more frequent reaching up to 10 in total, It was realized that they are not changing the direction eventhough it got sure they are passing the border and they are hit. Also they didnt identify themselves and we dont IFF system would give them a neutral sign, so should we know its a russian plane by visual contact? be realistic. Eventhough it doesnt matter whether its russian or syrian. The planes were already got the call but they were trolls as you to pass by Turkey's airspace, and crying like a kid once they are hit

Anyway just in hours we could release the radar flight path , it took russia to do a day and more and they came with a MS paint work shows F-16 TuAF had a sharp turn is about 100g And weirdly Russian plane has flied as normally. They are aware of this fact and its so sad you fools are believing their lies.

 

[ptldM3]

TuAF warned Su-24 BEFORE crossing the border.

Yea, because you were the radar operator right? The rescued pilot/navigator said he flew in the area many times before and he visually knew where the Syrian, Turkish border was, he said no warning were given, no visual identifications were given, ect. The Turkish voice recorder, was pathetic and proved nothing. I could not even understand what was said because of the piss poor English and static.

Su-30 carry ancient passive missiles, better not try with AMRAAM equipped F-16. Also shooting down Turkish jets means goodbye to Bosporus and fast fall of Giraffe regime (or what remained of that regime).

Another idiot comment by 500. SU-30s cary R-77's which are newer then the AIM-120s "AMRAAM" but lets even say the missile were some ancient 1960s missiles--they would still have the capability to down F-16s. The point of the story is the Russians now have SU-30s to escort bombers as well as the S-400 both are capable of destroying F-16s deep inside Turkey. The SU-30SM is a brand new aircraft, they are much more capable then the aging Turkish F-16s.

Russia bombed a Turkish convoy on the border Turkey did nothing just like they did nothing when SU-30 had a radar lock on F-16s several weeks ago.

 

[ANMDT]

it is so crazy excuse

Who says russia is untouchable are they God?
Doesnt matter we know or not, the King of the world even didnt condescend to identify themselves so its a hit, proofs are everywhere .

 

[Ceylal]

Proof of this
From mirror website :
A civilian pilot who was in the sky when the missile was fired claims he heard the Turkish Air Force’s warnings to the Russian fighter jet.

The pilot, who was flying a Middle East Airlines flight from Beirut’s Rafic Hariri International Airport to a Gulf country at about 9am (Lebanese time), verified the recording released to media - and says there were many similar incidents in the past.
He told Al-Arabiya: “I confirm the authenticity of their recording, I heard these exact same warnings over and over again and the part I recorded on my phone was actually towards the end when I felt the matter was getting serious.

"I heard similar warnings two or three times a week, on every flight I took for the past month.
“What was different this time is that the Turkish officer was shouting and seemed tense, while the warnings were much calmer in previous times… this is why I knew something was going to happen,” he added.

The Turkish Gov is flip flopping between their own version , going from warning to not knowing it was a Russian aircraft. The reason behind the downing of the aircraft is , that the Russian have destroyed all Ergodan's son truck fleed that were hauling ISIS oil to Turkey..There is no other reason but that...The Russian plane wasn't a threat to Turkey proper but it was a threat to Turkey's double dealing and closeness to ISIS, otherwise, the Russian would not have send a bomber in a hostile sky with a proper escort.

 

[NUCLEAR_WINTER]

maybe the russian garbage exploded itself?

LOL

 

[damm1t]

I will answer one by one.

You use excuses, Turkey has violated Greek airspace thousands of times, they have violated Syrian airspace many times and Iraqi airspace and payed for it

First educate yourself on this.

The threat of extending Greek territorial waters beyond their present width of 6 miles ( Greece extended her territorial waters from 3 miles to 6 miles in 1936, Turkey followed suit in 1964), the remilitarization of the Eastern Aegean Islands placed under demilitarized status by virtue of the very agreements ceding them to Greece, a 10 mile "national air space" over territorial waters of 6, abuse of the FIR service responsibility as if it confers sovereignty (request of flight plans from state aircraft and allegations of "violations of" Athens FIR) can be counted among the issues which are the real underlying causes of the Turco-Greek conflict in the Aegean.

Background Note on Aegean Disputes / Rep. of Turkey Ministry of Foreign Affairs

(F-4 shoot down, F-16 shot down).

Which F-16 ?

They are one of the worst violators when it comes to respecting airspace and now they are crying.

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/bully-baltics-kremlin’s-provocations
Despite NATO Warnings, Russia Has A History Of Violating Airspace In Turkey, Baltics

In 2014, Russian military planes violated Estonian airspace 7 times, Latvian airspace more than 180 times and approached Lithuanian airspace more than 150 times.
Graphic show show Russian violations and provocations only in 2015.

As for Turkish foolish behavior of treating all aircraft as enemy targets within 30 miles of its airspace . Does this mean that Turkey owns the airspace around Georgia, Syria, Iraq, ect?

Since you have problems to understand what you read i make things clear for you. If a military asset heading towards Turkish airspace, TuAF alarms as it's an enemy move and warns the target. If it doesnt change the course its treated as enemy target. We don't own the 30 mile airspace of others, it's just expanded alarm distance according to new rules of engagement.

Of course not, the, today Russian aircraft bombarded a Turkish "aid convoy" near the Turkish border and Turkey did nothing. Now with fighter escort the Turks will do nothing.

So you are proud of bombing aid trucks and civillians? ISIS doesn't present in this area you and I know it. Putin is being watchdog of Assad to keep FSA away. Turkmens fight within FSA and Turkey support them clearly. Russia is not bombing ISIS all they do is trying to save Assad's ***.

 

[kollang]

maybe the russian garbage exploded itself?

LOL

@mods

With -15 negative ratings and only 40 thanks per 120 posts, dont you think you have to ban this racist a@@hole?

 

[500]

Yea, because you were the radar operator right? The rescued pilot/navigator said he flew in the area many times before and he visually knew where the Syrian, Turkish border was, he said no warning were given, no visual identifications were given, ect. The Turkish voice recorder, was pathetic and proved nothing. I could not even understand what was said because of the piss poor English and static.

Thats standard procedure used by Turkey and it is confirmed by released record.

Another idiot comment by 500. SU-30s cary R-77's which are newer then the AIM-120s "AMRAAM"

Yes sure:

but lets even say the missile were some ancient 1960s missiles--they would still have the capability to down F-16s.

I would not advice to.

The point of the story is the Russians now have SU-30s to escort bombers as well as the S-400 both are capable of destroying F-16s deep inside Turkey. The SU-30SM is a brand new aircraft, they are much more capable then the aging Turkish F-16s.

Su-30 is just Su-27 mod, same era with F-16. What matters is equipment. AMRAAM >>> R-27.

Russia bombed a Turkish convoy on the border Turkey did nothing just like they did nothing when SU-30 had a radar lock on F-16s several weeks ago.

U can lock radars, but if u shoot down Turkish F-16 say goodbye to Bosporus.

 

[ptldM3]

Syrian airspace ? Even we hit IS targets witout passing border.

Yea sure you do. It's know that thousands of terrorists have crossed from Turkey and Turkey is the primary funder of ISIS buy buying their cheap oil.

Remember because of what the engagement rules are tightened, syrian shot down turkish fighter with no warning while off to international border ( But claimed to be extended on syrian side) "without warning " because they couldnt show any proof of warning a record or whatever. Even in 1st speech the Assad told he has no "information" on what happened probably some soldiers pampered by Russia in those times ,did it. ,

And Urdigan, or whatever his name is, stated that there was no reason for the shoot down of the F-4 if it was in Syrian airspace only briefly. What a hypocrite--nothing new here coming from one of the worst violators of airspace in the region.

Come on everyone knows how Russian think themselves as " full of prestige" , even Turkey had meetings several times with them and indicated this point of airspace violation multiple times, and now one Douchebag pilot ignores the calls on emergency frequency which is even heard by passenger planes then Turkey is accused of shooting down? . Who gives Russian pilots to do Shortcuts over turkey ? Are their pilot disabled on turning around ? We should questionaire on the rather than just trolling by accusations on Turkey.

You cry about Russia's supposed incursion into Turkish airspace which only lasted seconds (if it even happened) yet Turkey has violated Greek airspace more then 1400 times in 2014, not to mention it regularly violates Syrian airspace.

Neither S-400 nor a fighter plane can thouch a flying bird in the Turkish airspace as we are not intended on passing border, so everything is fine. Just a few weeks ago the same happened, and you trolls were moving around " ehehhee Turkey is scared of Russia and just warned the fighter cant do any else" now you saw we can do the things and pain the a$$ should be so deep till you cant relieve it.

Russia could have easily retaliated by sending cruise missiles and fighters into Turkey, but cooler heads prevailed. The problem is that by doing so Russia will face most of NATO because as you know Turkey is a cowardly country that hides behind NATO, just like it ran for "consultation" to NATO after the attack and then made statements that it did not know the aircraft was Russian.

Russia will not hesitate to shoot down Turkish aircraft if they feel they could be a treat. After Turkey protested and threatened Russia that Turkmen were being bombed by Russia, what does Russia do? They bomb a Turkish "aid convoy" on the border in retaliation for the downed bomber. Russia is looking to bait Turkish fighters and so far the Turks are backing down because they know Russia will not hesitate to shoot down Turkish fighters.

 

[Rangila]

TASS: Russian Politics & Diplomacy - Harm from attack on Su-24 hard to heal, Moscow wants sensible explanations — Kremlin

It was too serious an incident with very grave, unavoidable consequences, Kremlin spokesman underlines

TASS: World - Turkey makes big mistake by downing Russian jet — Iranian parliament speaker

The US president’s support of this action is an even bigger mistake that further intensifies the conflicts in the region, speaker of Iran’s Majlis (parliament) Ali Larijani point out

S-400 Triumf in Syria: Russia Gives 'Stark Warning' to Turkey | Indian Defence News

"It was an aerial ambush, which means that it was a planned operation. It was authorized," he noted, adding that those behind the downing had several goals in mind.

 

[NUCLEAR_WINTER]

@kollang

worry about your mullamulla Regime in WW3. You will be NO.1 target practice of Israel Missile Forces.

than we will see who is going to be wiped off the map?!

 

[Arsalan]

and nothing will happen if we cheer or not. our cheering does not impact the political decisions so it doesn't matter what we do. We can throw tantrums all day long and Olivia Wilde will not kiss jennifer lopez , these are fu****g countries you are talking about.

It do show the maturity of oneself and even the general thinking attitude as a group. To say the least, the cheering crowd should be ashamed. It is lives and people we are talking about.
It is just like saying that we should sing a song a funeral as our mourning wont bring back the dead. Let us all have some sense!

 

[NUCLEAR_WINTER]

chinese and iranian fanboys here chear the deaths of turkmen women and children by russian bombs, so the rest of world can also chear the death of russky wannabes getting burned azz by NATO power.

LOOOOOOL