Turkey Is Turning Into the Next Pakistan

[Aramagedon]

NOPE....He doesn't hate Pakistan...I know which discussion you're referring to.

Please...Pakistanis are yet to find Turk who hates us....Sorry

No one will believe that

@atatwolf aka @Attila the Hun

He mocked Pakistani Muslims whom joined Ottoman forces as ugly, useless and hungry people ...

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

i will visit pakistan first. i live in liaoning provience in northeast of china far away from the border of china and pakistan. in fact,
i would vist russia or north korea if i cross the border。

hahahah

You are welcome over here, bro...Many Chinese folks are coming to Pakistan....We always have Chinese restaurants as well Check the link, bro

http://magazine.foodpanda.pk/top-of-the-town-chinese-food-in-karachi/

 

[Aramagedon]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/mysterious-ancient-camel-structures-in-saudi-desert.546873

 

[Attila the Hun]

NOPE....He doesn't hate Pakistan...I know which discussion you're referring to.

Please...Pakistanis are yet to find Turk who hates us....Sorry

No one will believe that

He is a 100% Indian loving troll. He goes around causing sectarian trouble on every thread.

But, good job you didn't fall for it.

@2800

 

[Lil Mathew]

So.....who are you to talk about Pakistan or Turkey?
Take a look at India. christtttt


It's incredible how an Indian can judge Turkey. One of the most visited countries in the world. Even with all the terrorism, bad press we get.... India isn't even close. lol

This is the article from Bloomberg written some foreigner... How it connected to India???

 

[Attila the Hun]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/mysterious-ancient-camel-structures-in-saudi-desert.546873

What's wrong with that? The bloody thing doesn't resemble a camel at all. Everyone on that thread had a laugh.

What did I do wrong exactly??

 

[ddlee96969]

hahahah

You are welcome over here, bro...Many Chinese folks are coming to Pakistan....We always have Chinese restaurants as well Check the link, bro

my friend i know there are some chinese restaurants in pakistan but i would like to have a rest in a pakistai restaurant..

 

[SQ8]

Somehow one is supposed to trust bloomberg article written by a Zionist Eli Lake and then parroted by a rabid hateful Indian?

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

my friend i know there are some chinese restaurants in pakistan but i would like to have a rest in a pakistai restaurant..

Then here are some Pakistani restaurants

http://karachista.com/insiders-guide/the-5-best-restaurants-in-karachi/

 

[ddlee96969]

Then here are some Pakistani restaurants

great thank you very much.

 

[Lil Mathew]

Somehow one is supposed to trust bloomberg article written by a Zionist Eli Lake and then parroted by a rabid hateful Indian?

Hiii advisor... Nice remarks... Is it also a forum rule that Indians don't post articles against Pakistan... How you get into a conclusion that I am a hateful person...
What you have to say about the racial and hatred comments by your fellow countrymen without any provocation by our side... If you have a job, do it without partiality... Otherwise mention that in your forum rules...

 

[Khagan1923]

If we are our pakistani brothers should help us develop high tech nukes and missiles to carry them. Let's see if the US dares to meddle around our border with terrorist scum then.


People with the blood of millions of Africans, jews, muslims and asians dare to call other nations "rouge" and "hostile" who work to defend their population against instability of the US in the ME.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

If we are our pakistani brothers should help us develop high tech nukes and missiles to carry them. Let's see if the US dares to meddle around our border with terrorist scum then.


People with the blood of millions of Africans, jews, muslims and asians dare to call other nations "rouge" and "hostile" who work to defend their population against instability of the US in the ME.

Exactly

 

[T-Rex]

There isn't much that Turkey's president can do these days to further debase his reputation in the West. Recep Tayyip Erdogan has crushed peaceful protests at home and abroad, closed newspapers, threatened American soldiers, and collectively scapegoated Kurds. But over the weekend, Erdogan managed to go even lower.

At a rally at Kahramanmaras, the Turkish leader brought a trembling 6-year-old girl on stage dressed in military garb and told her she would be honored if she died as a martyr. He sounded like a terrorist. We expect this kind of child abuse from the fanatics in Hamas or Hezbollah. Erdogan though is the leader of an important NATO ally.

Turkey is beginning to resemble Pakistan, a perpetually failing state whose military leadership has tolerated and advanced a vision of political Islam deeply hostile to U.S. and Western interests.


To be sure, Turkey is not quite there yet. There is still a majority of Turks who want to eventually join the European Union. The Turkish economyis stronger than Pakistan's, and its banks are more trusted. And unlike in Pakistan, the driving force to further Islamize society has come from Erdogan, an elected leader, not the military. Indeed, the Turkish military has (until some of Erdogan's recent reforms) historically been a force that undermined the elected leadership through coups to preserve the secular tradition of modern Turkey's founder, Kemal Ataturk.

That said, Erdogan is following the Pakistani model in disturbing ways, according to Husain Haqqani, the former Pakistani ambassador to Washington. Haqqani, a former journalist, is in a unique position to evaluate this trend because he wrote the best history of how the Pakistani military embraced Islamic fundamentalism.

In an interview Haqqani said Erdogan's approach was reminiscent of Pakistan's military dictator between 1978 and 1988, Zia ul-Haq. Like Zia, Erdogan has instituted legal and societal reforms to further Islamize society. In January, for example, he instituted a new plan to pour government money into Islamic schools.

"Erdogan has taken the Pakistani formula of mixing hard-line nationalism with religiosity," Haqqani said. "Zia imposed Islamic laws by decree, amended the constitution, marginalized secular scholars and leaders, and created institutions for Islamization that have outlasted him. Erdogan is trying to do the same in Turkey."

The clearest parallel with Pakistan is Turkey's current approach to the war in Syria. In January, Erdogan launched a new offensive against America's Kurdish allies in Afrin. Even though the Turks have worked against the regime in Damascus, during the first weeks of that offensive they actually coordinated with their erstwhile adversaries in Syria.


This is a less toxic version of Pakistan's broader approach to the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan. There, the Pakistani military and intelligence services have tolerated and at times encouraged a group known as the Haqqani Network (no relation to the ambassador) to become a lifeline for the Afghan Taliban and other terrorists attacking U.S. forces and the elected government in Kabul. At the same time, the Pakistanis have been important allies for the U.S. dating back to the Islamic insurgency against the Soviets in Afghanistan, and more recently against elements of al Qaeda since 2001. Of course when the U.S. finally tracked down Osama bin Laden, it found him living in the same town as Pakistan's prestigious military academy, Abbottabad.

Again, Turkey has not yet sunk to this level. But it's heading down this path. In the first years of the Syrian civil war after 2011, Turkey's border with that country was a sieve for new Islamic State recruits joining the short-lived caliphate in Raqqa. To this day, Turkey remains a friendly outpost for Hamas, the terror group that has run Gaza since 2007.

As a former U.S. ambassador to Turkey, Eric Edelman, told me this week: "Turkey is not Pakistan yet, but if it continues on the trajectory that Erdogan has put it on, there is a prospect it could become like Pakistan."

This is the deep challenge today for Washington. So far however the U.S. government has not shown Ankara the tough love necessary to stop Turkey's slide. The latest high-level visit for example, from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson last month, sought to paper over Turkey's campaign in Afrin and Erdogan's recent threat to deliver an "Ottoman slap" to the U.S.

This kind of short-term thinking is understandable, but it doesn't address the slow-motion disaster happening now in Turkey. Here it's important, at the very least, to draw some boundaries for Erdogan and convey that he cannot maintain the current relationship with the U.S. if he crosses them. A good starting point would be to demand Erdogan stop threatening U.S. soldiers.

In the meantime, it's telling that Turkey and Pakistan are getting closer. Last week at a meeting of the Financial Action Task Force, the international body to counter money laundering, it was Turkey that helped counter a U.S. move to place Pakistani banks on a watch list for financing terrorism. Given the direction Turkey is heading, it looks like they are hoping Pakistan may one day return the favor.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...ally-turkey-is-turning-into-the-next-pakistan

Why is it that you sound like a democrat, a champion of freedom of speech after crushing these ideas in your satellite state we know as BD?

 

[MultaniGuy]

I was reading the article. The Article is rubbish, ever since I read that Pakistan and Turkey are failing states in it.

How is Pakistan and Turkey failing states?

The article is biased.

How are Pakistan and Turkey failed states? I am curious. The article doesn't even state how?

I am dismissing the bloomberg article as bullshit.