Turkey defense minister travelled to Russia today and met with Russia defense minister

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I think we can agree that christian Europe never can have an alliance with an islamic country. It would betray our ancestors and our future. It would be betrayal against our values, culture and history.

I´m sure we can agree that a Turkey membership in EU would be as destructive for us as you say its for you. So its good this never came into reality.

P.s. When do you leave Germany and move back Turkey?




I hope they dont. Its not about hurting feelings. Its just important to end this diplomatic friction.

I believe best is a clear cut. Its honest towards all sides.

How about Russia as an EU state? Is there support for that?

-- Turkey saved Europe from 3 millions of Syrian refugees

They could have came to Europe anyway regardless of war in Syria or not. Syria's population would have increased to 50 million and there simply isn't enough natural resource in Syria to support that many people. Where would you have them go?

 

[Tiberius]

maybe trash and useless Italy is major NATO player

Turkey has since made major contributions to NATO. during the Cold War, Turkey helped constrain the Soviet Navy in the Mediterranean, provided one of the largest armies in Europe and hosted key NATO military facilities

-- Turkey has the 2nd largest Army in NATO after the US Army
-- Turkish Army was in Kosovo , Bosnia , Lebanon , Somali , Afghanistan , etc
-- Turkey control Bosphorus only gate way to the Black Sea for NATO against Russia
-- The United States, Great Britain and other members of the international community are now working closely with Turkey to bring peace to Afghanistan, the Middle East and other global hotspots
-- Turkey Kurecik Base to host American AN/TPY2 Radar ( NATO's early warning radar missile system )
-- Turkey Incirlik Airbase is very important for The US/NATO to operate in Iraq,Syria
-- Turkey saved Europe from 3 millions of Syrian refugees


on the other hand The US/NATO support Pkk/Ypg/FETO Terrorists against Turkey

Turkey threatens NATO member Greece with war

Turkey attacked an italian oil rig

Turkey insults NATO members Germany

Turkey supported ISIS

Turkey breached security by giving F35 data to Russia

Turkey has no european values and not the same mentality.

Turkey takes EU and USA citizens as hostages

How about Russia as an EU state? Is there support for that?



They could have came to Europe anyway regardless of war in Syria or not. Syria's population would have increased to 50 million and there simply isn't enough natural resource in Syria to support that many people. Where would you have them go?

Russia is a christian nation. There is far more support for Russia than Turkey. In the past there were proposals to get closer towards Russia. I think in the future we will see much better relations with Russia.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Turkey threatens NATO member Greece with war

Turkey attacked an italian oil rig

Turkey insults NATO members Germany

Turkey supported ISIS

Turkey breached security by giving F35 data to Russia

Turkey has no european values and not the same mentality.

Turkey takes EU and USA citizens as hostages




Russia is a christian nation. There is far more support for Russia than Turkey. In the past there were proposals to get closer towards Russia. I think in the future we will see much better relations with Russia.

Doesn't a country have to be completely in Europe to join EU? Russia and Turkey are not completely in Europe.

 

[Tiberius]

Doesn't a country have to be completely in Europe to join EU? Russia and Turkey are not completely in Europe.

For liberal leftist morons, thats not the case. They wanted make Turkey an EU member and give us a border with failed states like Syria, Iraq and Iran.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey threatens NATO member Greece with war

Turkey attacked an italian oil rig

Turkey insults NATO members Germany

Turkey supported ISIS

Turkey breached security by giving F35 data to Russia

Turkey has no european values and not the same mentality.

Turkey takes EU and USA citizens as hostages

Greece occupied 16 Turkish Islands in Aegean

Greece support and training DHKPC Terrorists against Turkey

Greece , The US and Germany support and protect FETO Terrorists against Turkey

Greece and Greek cypriots used Italian ENI to steal gas reserves which belong to Turkish cypriots

The US ,Germany ,France gave weapons to Pkk/Ypg terrorists who killed tens of thousands of Turkish citizens including women and childs since 1990s

The US/NATO created military coups in Turkey 1960,1971,1980 and last one in 2016



btw only Turkish Army fought against ISIS in NATO , not the US Army or German Army or British Army or trash Italian Army

Turkish Armed Forces killed over 3000 ISIS terrorists ( The Operation Euphrates Shield which was launched on August 24, 2016 )

 

[Trango Towers]

Turkey is not a mayor NATO player. Infact it is more a security risk than an asset.

What worth has a NATO member you cant trust in?

At the moment we must take care that Turkey leaves NATO as soon as possible. I´m glad EU blocked Turkey memebrship from day one. It simply doesnt fit.

Thats your opinion....yet the southern flank of nato is in Turkey. Nukes are in turkey. All major operations east are from turkey and it has the 2nd largest military in nato. But then again you cant teach an old dog new tricks

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Turkey is not a mayor NATO player. Infact it is more a security risk than an asset.

What worth has a NATO member you cant trust in?

At the moment we must take care that Turkey leaves NATO as soon as possible. I´m glad EU blocked Turkey memebrship from day one. It simply doesnt fit.

Then face the wrath across the Thrace, for old time's sake....
If the Sultan had sided with the Czar, most of Europe would be fluent in Russian....

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Then face the wrath across the Thrace, for old time's sake....
If the Sultan had sided with the Czar, most of Europe would be fluent in Russian....

Russia have its borders. Russia covets no land in mainland Europe.

 

[Timur]

So its good this never came into reality.

I agree.. but I would not see turkish influence in EU as bad.. but I think it would have ended in cultural genocide for turkey..

P.s. When do you leave Germany and move back Turkey?

as soon as we have Hartz 4 there I will go to antalya and live there

but for now I am good with germany our groub is on a missionary alike mission we are making dawa and lets say we are not really bad at it.. and there are plenty of our and alike ppl, times have changed its not like being the black guy on a white guys wedding

 

[tesla]

Thats your opinion....yet the southern flank of nato is in Turkey. Nukes are in turkey. All major operations east are from turkey and it has the 2nd largest military in nato. But then again you cant teach an old dog new tricks

The EU can not controlling oil rotas and heavy depended on oil and gas .Trump is humulating them constantly .Marcus think that The eu is big power lol

 

[Timur]

How about Russia as an EU state? Is there support for that?



They could have came to Europe anyway regardless of war in Syria or not. Syria's population would have increased to 50 million and there simply isn't enough natural resource in Syria to support that many people. Where would you have them go?

without putin yes

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

without putin yes

What's with Putin?

 

[tesla]

What's with Putin?

Do you think putin is globalist ?the answer is there

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Do you think putin is globalist ?the answer is there

Conspiracy theory 101.

 

[tesla]

Conspiracy theory 101.

this is the main issue in world politics and serious political scientists is discussing of this of course childs can not understand this. i dont blame you ha ha