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Turkey commemorates 102nd anniversary of Gallipoli Campaign

Un moment mon ami;
for me he was a mastermind.


Did you ever read Andrew Mango ?

Ataturk: The Biography of the founder of Modern Turkey

Ataturk was clearly an inspiring commander
 
Did you ever read Andrew Mango ?
Ataturk: The Biography of the founder of Modern Turkey
No, but I think I will, since I've never read an English-language bio of Ataturk based from Turkish sources.
 
No, but I think I will, since I've never read an English-language bio of Ataturk based from Turkish sources.

There are other serious sources from Turkish and German archives

from Professor Hanioglu - Dean of Princeton Edu
 
Ataturk had many qualities and a long career but Ataturk was NOT the "mastermind of the victory at Galllipoli": the German Marshal Otto Limon von Sanders was, with Ataturk as one of his subordinate divisional commanders.

Not only did the Germans supply brains, the Germans supplied arms, warships, and provided logistics support. Indeed, how can the commemoration really be complete without Turkey tipping a hat to its wartime ally?
Many of your leaders at the creation of Israel were from the Ottoman Empire,any mention of that anywhere?
 
Many of your leaders at the creation of Israel were from the Ottoman Empire,any mention of that anywhere?
Perhaps not enough. I know that Ben-Gurion trained to be an Ottoman lawyer - it's in his bio - but I don't think many people read bios of Israel's founders nowadays.
 
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