Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia broaden military cooperation

[Hakan]

Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia broaden military cooperation spectrum

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Regional neighbors -- Turkey, Azerbaijan and Georgia -- are actively working to strengthen and improve their trilateral military and defense ties. The same approach towards certain military issues paves way to more active cooperation among the three countries.
Ankara meeting of the heads of the armed forces of Turkey, Azerbaijan and Georgia has come as the next part of negotiations aimed at developing relations in between the armed forces in three countries.
Chief of the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces, Army General Necdet Ozel received Azerbaijani Defense Minister, Colonel General Zakir Hasanov and Chief of the General Staff of the Georgian Armed Forces, Major General Vakhtang Kapanadze in Ankara on May 4 to talk over recent and future prospects of cooperation in the field of military.
At a trilateral meeting the top brass focused mostly on the development of military cooperation, issues of regional safety, and in particular, the strengthening of practical arrangements for the realization of tasks aimed to provide stability and safety in the region, as well as regional power and railway projects.
The first meeting of the chiefs of staff concluded with the signing of a trilateral protocol clinching the decision to create Coordination Group in view of regulating the cooperation among armed forces of the three countries.
The group's key directives are to hold joint exercises, courses and trainings, to expand cooperation in the fields of military education and medicine, to exchange experience and to coordinate other issues of mutual interest.
The first initiative of military cooperation in between Turkey, Azerbaijan and Georgia emerged in 2013 and was followed by the first official meeting of the defense ministers on the sidelines of NATO Ministerial in Brussels, in June 2014.
Further meetings of the ministers in Azerbaijan's Nakhchivan in August 2014 and in Georgia's Tbilisi in April 2015 put forward the planning and execution of joint training exercises in view of protecting the region's strategic energy-transport infrastructure.
Military experts believe that both Azerbaijan and Georgia attach great importance to cooperation with Turkey, which is much more accomplished in the defense industry. Turkey's indigenous defense programs encompass the full spectrum of military operations and include major areas across land, air, sea and space.
The newly initiated cooperation among the three countries in the defense industry marks a new page in the partnership of neighboring countries.

Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia broaden military cooperation spectrum - AzerNews

 

[usernameless]

If only Georgia could join nato, it would help guarantee Turkish interests and land connection vis a vis Georgia and Azerbaijan. Unfortunately its likely that the US is not interested in a conflict with Russia over Georgia, which is strange imo as a Georgia guaranteed by nato means an even stronger Turkish-Georgian-Azerbaijan link, thus strengthening our position too, in turn the nato as well. If Georgia somehow turns pro-Russia and starts objecting Turkey and Azerbaijan, it would be bad for us.

Anyway, Georgia itself seems divided about nato, so..

 

[xenon54 out]

If only Georgia could join nato, it would help guarantee Turkish interests and land connection vis a vis Georgia and Azerbaijan. Unfortunately its likely that the US is not interested in a conflict with Russia over Georgia, which is strange imo as a Georgia guaranteed by nato means an even stronger Turkish-Georgian-Azerbaijan link, thus strengthening our position too, in turn the nato as well. If Georgia somehow turns pro-Russia and starts objecting Turkey and Azerbaijan, it would be bad for us.

Anyway, Georgia itself seems divided about nato, so..

Russia is the last one to moan about NATO territorial expansion after Crimea incident and Ukraine generally.

 

[White Tiger]

Kaan could you not use a normal picture for you avatar

You are making a fool out of yourself

 

[usernameless]

Russia is the last one to mean about NATO territorial expansion after Crimea incident and Ukraine generally.

Exactly, what's Russia going to do when Georgia joins nato? Interfere and mess up their politics and economics? Create and support terrorists there? Surely nato can answer this. What is the US afraid of? Perhaps it's not this easy on the ground, but still i wonder.

US' behavior almost feels like as if they dont really care if Russia takes Georgia under its influence.

 

[xenon54 out]

Exactly, what's Russia going to do when Georgia joins nato? Interfere and mess up their politics and economics? Create and support terrorists there? Surely nato can answer this. What is the US afraid of? Perhaps it's not this easy on the ground, but still i wonder.

US' behavior almost feels like as if they dont really care if Russia takes Georgia under its influence.

Taking Georgia into NATO would surely be a strategic gain but it think they might consider it not worthy enough to provoke a conflict.

But more realistic is the fact that Georgia has teritorial disputes over South Ossetia and Abkhasia, i dont think US wants to be bothered by those issues.

 

[usernameless]

Taking Georgia into NATO would surely be a strategic gain but it think they might consider it not worthy enough to provoke a conflict.

But more realistic is the fact that Georgia has teritorial disputes over South Ossetia and Abkhasia, i dont think US wants to be bothered by those issues.

Also, US' main point of focus is increasingly the Asia Pacific region, so from the US' point of view there's no time and effort to waste on irrelevant conflicts with Russia. I think we can forget Georgia entering nato in the foreseeable future. Let's just hope that Georgia will play its cards right, stay away from excessive Russian influence and stay on good terms with Turkey and Azerbaijan.

 

[xenon54 out]

Also, US' main point of focus is increasingly the Asia Pacific region, so from the US' point of view there's no time and effort to waste on irrelevant conflicts with Russia. I think we can forget Georgia entering nato in the foreseeable future. Let's just hope that Georgia will play its cards right, stay away from excessive Russian influence and stay on good terms with Turkey and Azerbaijan.

Russia influencing Georgia is no reason for concern, espacially after 2008.

 

[usernameless]

Russia influencing Georgia is no reason for concern, espacially after 2008.

you're right in that sense, but i read some article saying that the Georgian opposition prefers a neutral stance instead of a pure pro-nato stance. They are even advocating to join the Russian economic bloc if it's feasible for Georgia. As you know, economic dependence is also a way to increase influence in another country. anything is possible, i don't think Russia has no cards left for Georgia anymore. hope i am just unnecessarily thinking and worrying too much about Georgia.

 

[Brutas]

Georgia would be walking a fine line here. Large chunk of her territory (Abkhzzia and South Ossetia) was already grabbed by Russia. To compensate for Russian support for Armenian grab of Karabakh, Turkey-Azerbaijan could support independence movement in North Caucasus (Dagestan-Chechnya-Ingushetia). Keep Moscow under pressure to ensure no more land grab !

 

[IR-TR]

If only Georgia could join nato, it would help guarantee Turkish interests and land connection vis a vis Georgia and Azerbaijan. Unfortunately its likely that the US is not interested in a conflict with Russia over Georgia, which is strange imo as a Georgia guaranteed by nato means an even stronger Turkish-Georgian-Azerbaijan link, thus strengthening our position too, in turn the nato as well. If Georgia somehow turns pro-Russia and starts objecting Turkey and Azerbaijan, it would be bad for us.

Anyway, Georgia itself seems divided about nato, so..

Yeah, Georgia willl never join NATO. Europe doesn't care for Georgia and even though the US would love tensions between the EU and Russia, Europe's leaders aren't stupid. Why risk angering Russia and ruining 400billion in yearly trade relations for a tiny irrelevant country? Full of lazy people? Georgia might join NATO after Russia does But Turkey should enhance ties with whoever it wants and needs to.

Georgia would be walking a fine line here. Large chunk of her territory (Abkhzzia and South Ossetia) was already grabbed by Russia. To compensate for Russian support for Armenian grab of Karabakh, Turkey-Azerbaijan could support independence movement in North Caucasus (Dagestan-Chechnya-Ingushetia). Keep Moscow under pressure to ensure no more land grab !

Are you living in an alternative world? Turkey supporting terrorist groups in the North Caucasus? Russia would slap Turkey so hard even I would cry. This is not a joke here, toying around with the territorial integrity of a major nuclear power. Let's keep things realistic. I mean it's a million times better to just grab back Karabakh than to actually mess up INSIDE Russia. It's like a foreign, smaller weaker nation coming to Turkey and helping the PKK. How would Turkey react? Exactly.

 

[Azeri440]

If only Georgia could join nato, it would help guarantee Turkish interests and land connection vis a vis Georgia and Azerbaijan. Unfortunately its likely that the US is not interested in a conflict with Russia over Georgia, which is strange imo as a Georgia guaranteed by nato means an even stronger Turkish-Georgian-Azerbaijan link, thus strengthening our position too, in turn the nato as well. If Georgia somehow turns pro-Russia and starts objecting Turkey and Azerbaijan, it would be bad for us.

Anyway, Georgia itself seems divided about nato, so..

prior Georgian government would of had no problem joining NATO , today's government however doesn't want to upset Russia in any way. Even after 2008 war , the Georgian government allows Russian military convoys to pass through its territory to reach Armenia.

Anyway, I don't have any worries of Georgia , their economy only survives thanks to Turkish and Azerbaijani investments.

 

[Brutas]

Are you living in an alternative world? Turkey supporting terrorist groups in the North Caucasus? Russia would slap Turkey so hard even I would cry. This is not a joke here, toying around with the territorial integrity of a major nuclear power. Let's keep things realistic. I mean it's a million times better to just grab back Karabakh than to actually mess up INSIDE Russia. It's like a foreign, smaller weaker nation coming to Turkey and helping the PKK. How would Turkey react? Exactly.

Read my post. I stated "could support independence movement" not should. But you do have a point. EU may not have the stomach but neocons in Washington will not miss any opportunity to keep Russia under check. Keep in mind they are the ones providing support to the fighters in Ukraine. If Republicans come to power next year, it will be a all new ball game. They will try everything to keep Putin boxed including supporting anyone opposed to him. If that is to occur, Turkey-Azerbaijan and others (even if they might not like it) would be a vehicle to deliver goods to execute Washington's demands !
What do you think they are doing to China ? Beefing up presence in Asia-Pacific is to box the Chinese !