TuAF Alternative to F-35?

[Swezu]

J-10 maybe.

 

[StraightShooter]

•I know J-31 might be already ready in 2020 but im not sure about our relations with china (uigur problem).

• Pakistan, maybe buy a couple of their jf 17 jets and modify them i think turkey does a good job modifying and modernising stuff. U can maybe pull an f16 block 50 out of a jf17

If procuring J-31s from China is a problem due to Uygur issue, the same problem exists for JF-17s too as it is a Chinese fighter even though Pakistan is funding it as part of the JV.

•the russians offered us to join one of their 5th gen MIG stealth fighter projects (But we have still unresolved issues in northern syria lets see if they will help us out or go against us but we will ahve to make our position clear as well im supporting assad because this is the man with "i will take every inch of my land" ideologie this is fine acceptable for turkey. The russians also want to diversify their economy and they see turkey as a potentialy country where they export their stuff and vice versa maybe thats how u can further engage with them . Altough putin said that relations are on pre jet crisis i believe that relations will go to pre jet crisis when syrian war ends with an acceptable result for both russian,syrian and turkish parties.

If Turkey's issues with Russia did not prevent it from procuring S-400s why would it be an issue procuring fighters from Russia?

 

[Incog_nito]

Turkish own program will going to replace F-5s, F-4s, and later F-16s from their fleet.

 

[Glass]

If procuring J-31s from China is a problem due to Uygur issue, the same problem exists for JF-17s too as it is a Chinese fighter even though Pakistan is funding it as part of the JV.



If Turkey's issues with Russia did not prevent it from procuring S-400s why would it be an issue procuring fighters from Russia?

Is that true ? @CriticalThought @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Secur

Turkish own program will going to replace F-5s, F-4s, and later F-16s from their fleet.

f5 is already retired. F4 supposed to retire in 2020 and replaced by f35 and f16 to be replaced by TFX but we will see. I think turkey and nato are at a breaking point so

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Do some of you guys really think any PAK, IND or Iranian system can compare to western platforms Lol

Turkey will buy the F35, it is a major investor and as right now and for many years to come will be under the influence of the western technological sphere.

It will be a major contribution to our air assets.

 

[BordoEnes]

I recall a particular individual that worked at SSM, who did a AMA Reddit thread a couple years ago. He explained that he and a lot more of his colleagues actually thought that Turkey didnt need the F-35 planes, but rather that the F-18 Super Hornets was more capable and met the neccesary requirements of TuAF fairly easely. But ofcourse he explicitly said that it is his own opinion and that it doesnt reflect that of the SSM.

If Turkey was somehow ever to abandon the JSF program, the alternative would still probably be an American made fighter jets like the F-18. Especially now considering that we are getting our own light aircraft carrier in the near future. The Chinese are simply no viable alternative to American fighter jets in the near future. Turkey is not leaving NATO anytime soon, so you can forget the Russian platforms as well. No offence to our Pakistani bros but the JF-17 or any other of its future variants wont ever come close to what the F-35 or F-18 are capable of doing.

 

[Baybars Han]

The answer to that question is the alternative to the f-35 is not a US, Russian or Chinese jet fighter. This should not be a question for us, it should always be our own fighter. Dependency to any country always is a risk.

The only thing we need right now is to spend more on R&D and plan long term projects that will make us independent in defence.

 

[Mr.Department]

The answer to that question is the alternative to the f-35 is not a US, Russian or Chinese jet fighter. This should not be a question for us, it should always be our own fighter. Dependency to any country always is a risk.

The only thing we need right now is to spend more on R&D and plan long term projects that will make us independent in defence.

Right. Agreed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/898666090582159360

 

[Glass]

I recall a particular individual that worked at SSM, who did a AMA Reddit thread a couple years ago. He explained that he and a lot more of his colleagues actually thought that Turkey didnt need the F-35 planes, but rather that the F-18 Super Hornets was more capable and met the neccesary requirements of TuAF fairly easely. But ofcourse he explicitly said that it is his own opinion and that it doesnt reflect that of the SSM.

If Turkey was somehow ever to abandon the JSF program, the alternative would still probably be an American made fighter jets like the F-18. Especially now considering that we are getting our own light aircraft carrier in the near future. The Chinese are simply no viable alternative to American fighter jets in the near future. Turkey is not leaving NATO anytime soon, so you can forget the Russian platforms as well. No offence to our Pakistani bros but the JF-17 or any other of its future variants wont ever come close to what the F-35 or F-18 are capable of doing.

We are colliding with the americans heavily. Our interests with them dont align any longer- at all. We dont really see Russia & Iran as a threat while they plan to take a harder stance against them.

Well, I would say extend the life of these

and change TFX project into a multi role jet.

 

[wiseone2]

We are colliding with the americans heavily. Our interests with them dont align any longer- at all. We dont really see Russia & Iran as a threat while they plan to take a harder stance against them.

Well, I would say extend the life of these

and change TFX project into a multi role jet.

Is turkey not purchasing the f-35 ??

 

[StraightShooter]

We are colliding with the americans heavily. Our interests with them dont align any longer- at all. We dont really see Russia & Iran as a threat while they plan to take a harder stance against them.

Well, I would say extend the life of these

and change TFX project into a multi role jet.

You also need to change the TFX engine to be a Russian or Chinese one rather than a UK one.

Do some of you guys really think any PAK, IND or Iranian system can compare to western platforms Lol

Sorry India does not have any fighters. You could try procuring JF-17s from Pakistan which have been inducted and operational with PAF for over a decade now.

 

[Glass]

You also need to change the TFX engine to be a Russian or Chinese one rather than a UK one.

No, I think the TF-X engines will be british im there rather confident that the brits wont cause any trouble with TF-X in general.

Is turkey not purchasing the f-35 ??

We ordered so far 6 f35 as far as i know but its unclear if we even get them delivered

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

We don't have any viable options to F-35 unless it's from Britain or France/Italy cooperation. The swedes could be a good partner in R&D, let's hope our politicians don't piss them off too much.

 

[Oublious]

We don't have any viable options to F-35 unless it's from Britain or France/Italy cooperation. The swedes could be a good partner in R&D, let's hope our politicians don't piss them off too much.

what a stupid post...

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Point on.Nobody is feeding pork to muslims, I don't put pork on the table when I have muslim guests, altough I know some eat it.It's just a matter of etiquette and common courtesy .

I was in the local food store and was approached by a foreigner who looked like a Sikh
Turban and almost 2 meters tall.
He was looking at the packages of cold cut meats and asked:
Is there ANYTHING I can put on a Sandwich which does not contain porc?
I suggested cheese - no... Marmalade - no.
A few other ideas - no.
Then I came up with something which I thought was brilliant: "Hamburgermeat!".
This is not minced meat like in a hamburger. It is smoked meat, a little salty,
no porc, and one of my favourites.
The Sikh looked interested. "What is it made of, then?"

- Horse...

The Sikh looked at me, and I realized that to him, there was nothing I could have said that was more disgusting...

Had to give up.