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TTP Murdered 11 foreign mountaineers at Nanga Parbat base camp.

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It doesn't matter who is brought. The fact of the matter is, they are from the Army. They should be trained to understand the language of bullet. Their job should always be to protect the country's borders. They should crush militants on their own.

It doesn't make sense to go to IMF and KSA together.

There is no such KSA aid. Which country in the world gives an amount of $15 billion ? All these rumors are spread by people in Stock Market to get their points up. Some rumors were also there that NS would visit their country before taking oath. All of this has been proven wrong.

IMF is not political. It is a loan which you have to pay back. Their purpose is to foster global economic growth. If a nation is in good standing it doesn't need it. In our case, we don't have a choice. Either we take it, or increase Taxes and collection. Unfortunately the general public does not understand the reality and they reject both
 
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Oouch! That hurt -- and yet it's a logic difficult to confront and must be accepted.

But wait - If at every door there is nothing but us getting screwed, is it really us to blame?? Perhaps we need to rethink whether we must accept that the fault lies with us - If indeed all doors lead to "screwed", how are we to blame??

That, Sir, is a great question, that deserves an answer, but not in this thread about yet another atrocity.
 
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Are you idiot?

All these groups are safe because they ran to Afghanistan when military launch operations. Plus there is no such thing as jundullah in Pakistan.
I don't remember Pakistani army acting against any group other than TTP.

At least read your media before calling me an idiot.
That the scenic mountains of Gilgit-Baltistan (G-B), thus far known for their snow-capped peaks and as a haven for mountaineers, will now become known for the gruesome tragedy that panned out there on June 23, is yet another reminder of the vortex of perpetual violence that has engulfed our country. According to reports, gunmen dressed as paramilitary troops killed nine foreign tourists, including Ukrainian and Chinese climbers, as well as a Pakistani, who were staying at the base camp area of Nanga Parbat, the world’s ninth-highest mountain at a height of over 4,000 metres in the Diamer district of G-B. The responsibility for the attack was initially claimed by the militant group Jundallah, which has in the past also claimed responsibility for a series of attacks on the Shia community, including one in February 2012 when gunmen shot dead 18 bus passengers. Later, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) also accepted responsibility, saying that the attack was a retaliation to the killing of their leader Waliur Rehman, who was killed in a US drone strike recently.
 
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I don't remember Pakistani army acting against any group other than TTP.

At least read your media before calling me an idiot.

Pakistan army acts against all groups, ttp terrorist is umbrella terrorist organization for all groups. Jundalla exist in Iran &Afghanistan not Pakistan, it is first time ever they had attacked in Pakistan, maybe cuz Pakistans duffer polititions failed to take any measures to fence Pak-Afghan border.
 
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The international community must give more support to the Pakistani people and government,for they are at the very front of the struggle against terrorism and are the biggest victim of terrorist activities。Not the Americans!
 
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The international community must give more support to the Pakistani people and government,for they are at the very front of the struggle against terrorism and are the biggest victim of terrorist activities。Not the Americans!

Will Pakistanis prove worthy of such friendship and big heartedness - While Pakistan Army turns it's gaze from training camps which are used b terrorists who attack China, and on the day that Pakistani Islamist terrorists murdered Chinese citizens who came to Pakistan as guests, on the same day, China offered US$ Billion, as budget support - for the first time in it's history has China made this exception --

I wish I could tell you that Pakistani state will not disappoint you -- but I cannot. No one is safe in Pakistan
 
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Correct me if i am wrong, if you are so determined on being the champion for Muslim morality then tell me this, who invented the concept of projectile based weapons that your TTP brethern now use? That's right an Infidel, who made the paracetamol that you pop when you get a headache? The language you use on the forums, who is that language associated with? and here is the kicker, the internet you are using right now to access this forum and spew your venom... Who invented that? That's right a Kuffar.

Goodness gracious brother, you just collaborated with the sinners, you just used Kuffar based technology to make your life easier, better repent now or better still get 3 other like minded idiots and do this instead:

Blow up the internet - YouTube

And your post show you don't know a single thing about Islam first go and learn what Islam is what it allows and what it doesn't than come and tell me
 
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DAWN

EVENTUALLY, the illogic of conspiracy will have to give way to reality. Waliur Rehman, a TTP leader mind-bogglingly referred to by Imran Khan as ‘pro-peace’, was killed by an American drone, so now the TTP has killed nine foreigners in remote Gilgit-Baltistan in revenge. And instead of the focus being on how to prevent Pakistan from slipping further towards international isolation and internal instability, the question that will likely be asked most frequently, in the media, by the political class, by large chunks of civil society, is what can be done to stop drones strikes. The problem with the drone debate is not that it is unimportant but that it tends to obscure a more fundamental and important question: what to do about the TTP? And that more important and fundamental question is itself wrapped up in another set of distractions, namely whether or not to negotiate over what is not negotiable.

Unhappily, the newly elected government appears to already be falling into the trap of rhetoric as a substitute for action. Interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan has set an admirable new tone by speaking plainly and bluntly about all that ails Pakistan on the security front. That is good. But all the straight talk in the world will not substitute for a meaningful policy against militancy — and the necessary corollary of wresting national security policy from the army leadership. It is here that the PML-N already seems to be falling into the old trap of inaction through summits and all-party conferences and the like. Already, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif appears aloof and disconnected, allowing his ministers to speak for his government instead of leading from the front himself.

For the army’s part, a pattern now seems obvious: everything but North Waziristan can be tackled. The reasons for that can only be guessed at, but could it have something to do with the impending transition in Afghanistan, after which the much-loved Haqqani network may be encouraged to move its operations to the other side of the Durand line and then the TTP will be taken on? If Pakistan’s internal security is in fact linked to an external agenda, then perhaps the TTP is only a symptom of the disease. Bringing about change, particularly in powerful, entrenched institutions, is always a difficult undertaking. But if the Pakistani state doesn’t change its approach, the TTP will change Pakistan for all of us.
 
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DAWN

EVENTUALLY, the illogic of conspiracy will have to give way to reality. Waliur Rehman, a TTP leader mind-bogglingly referred to by Imran Khan as ‘pro-peace’, was killed by an American drone, so now the TTP has killed nine foreigners in remote Gilgit-Baltistan in revenge. And instead of the focus being on how to prevent Pakistan from slipping further towards international isolation and internal instability, the question that will likely be asked most frequently, in the media, by the political class, by large chunks of civil society, is what can be done to stop drones strikes. The problem with the drone debate is not that it is unimportant but that it tends to obscure a more fundamental and important question: what to do about the TTP? And that more important and fundamental question is itself wrapped up in another set of distractions, namely whether or not to negotiate over what is not negotiable.

Unhappily, the newly elected government appears to already be falling into the trap of rhetoric as a substitute for action. Interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan has set an admirable new tone by speaking plainly and bluntly about all that ails Pakistan on the security front. That is good. But all the straight talk in the world will not substitute for a meaningful policy against militancy — and the necessary corollary of wresting national security policy from the army leadership. It is here that the PML-N already seems to be falling into the old trap of inaction through summits and all-party conferences and the like. Already, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif appears aloof and disconnected, allowing his ministers to speak for his government instead of leading from the front himself.

For the army’s part, a pattern now seems obvious: everything but North Waziristan can be tackled. The reasons for that can only be guessed at, but could it have something to do with the impending transition in Afghanistan, after which the much-loved Haqqani network may be encouraged to move its operations to the other side of the Durand line and then the TTP will be taken on? If Pakistan’s internal security is in fact linked to an external agenda, then perhaps the TTP is only a symptom of the disease. Bringing about change, particularly in powerful, entrenched institutions, is always a difficult undertaking. But if the Pakistani state doesn’t change its approach, the TTP will change Pakistan for all of us.
Stop quoting these USA touts news papers who are funded by USA to speak their crap and **** USA himself is running away and they want us to open more fronts so our Army is completely destroyed and India gets a chance to do what ever they want they should ask their daddy USA first to not to talk to Afghan Taliban than
 
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Stop quoting these USA touts news papers who are funded by USA to speak their crap and **** USA himself is running away and they want us to open more fronts so our Army is completely destroyed and India gets a chance to do what ever they want they should ask their daddy USA first to not to talk to Afghan Taliban than

Very few among us seems to notice that Dawn , tribune and Geo always speaks US language and at times we heard of news that some articles come completely written from DC which are then published on the names of some local authors . Plus at one time payment any Pakistani channel or news source is available to say or publish anything without any regard to Pakistani interests .
Its something which needs to be controlled as in this age media helps shaping public opinion .I am sure all of you must have noticed how headlines are made whenever there is some attack on shia mosque or gathering painting it as a sectarian attack without acknowledging the fact that every day dozens of sunni's are also killed , isnt it possible the same group is behind all that and its just a matter of choice for them .
 
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