There are
many groups working.
ALL have intentionally adopted the same name "Taliban" or TTP etc. Ones who are genuine & angry are the ones involved in so-called "talks". While those who are
fake-jihadis are the ones who will continue their crimes. Their leaders aren't even muslims. They are
fake-converts, just like Adam Gadahn...
This release was particularly timed, just as genuine resentful tribals are getting closer to cease-fire.
FC were
kidnapped in 2010 & they co-incidentally released the news NOW in 2014; exactly on the day when news of cease-fire are coming out.
Also which FC are they exactly? There were some 200 FC abducted & they were all killed already, as I remember. Are these FC different from those?
Do we have the news stories of abduction of 23 of these particular FC that they are claiming to have killed NOW.???
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Below is the screenshot of the news of killing of FC: They look the same kind as Adam Gadahn. They are fake-taliban, agents of agencies.
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Omer Khorasani (the one behind these supposed killings) is considered one of TTP's most effective and powerful leaders in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas
Just like Adam Gadhan was considered an authentic. But he was a fake agent.
Fake convert.
ex-ISI chief has told on TV that many
fake-muslims are running masjids in tribal areas. One was arrested even from Jamia-Masjid Rawalpindi; a big city. There are many hindu communities in tribal regions, they can speak Pashtoo\Farsi\Darree & there used to be Pakistani Jews too who disappeared, they can speak Pakistani languages too, & look Pakistani. Think about it. Pictures of
one pakistani jewish girl were posted on this forum, who is serving in
Israeli army. Extrapolate yourself.
Of course western MSM makes sure to portray
fake--agents as main figure-heads.
Look at 2 guys on either side, they are agents. Just like face-covered agents surrounded OBL in his video shoots.
FAKE companions again:
Israeli government has been implicated in making of such fakes:-
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We have at least 4700 of their prisoners in our jails. Line laga do BC lashon ki.
i would like them locked up in bandward sukkhar jail .. where they are given to death row... Stop twisting facts these animals are one category .. they are trying to play this game which they cant win they know their ultimate wish of death will be granted soon by the army....
Maula-Jatt Dae Pichley Pasayoo,, Barhkaaan (بڑهكاں) Thooriyaan Maaroo Tae Jaa Apni Army Nooo Convince Karr.
Onaan Noo Dass Keh Taenoon Bautaa Pataa Aay. Apni Zahanatt Daa Chootaa Jaiyaa Tootaa Army Generals Noo Veee Donate Karr Chadd.
Action filmain zaidah naa daikhaa karoo.
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... China, Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan should just band together and r@pe the living sh!t out of "all" the mofo's in the region.
Do you realize you are asking for your own molestation.!
I agree, 4 countries should join & gang r@pe the only terrorist in region; india.
You will not fight the Taliban and win with this " denial " , " blame shifting " and " confused to the core " mindset . I am not pointing specifically at this member , but at my nation . I have seen this thought pattern in a great many , I have come across and interacted with . Looking at the media and knowing my people , there's little doubt that the rest are any different . It has become a sort of a nature of our people ,
to look for a foreign third hand or infidel to explain things . You see they are ready to blame everyone from Indians , Israelis , Afghans , Mossad , RAW , CIA , MI5 , Martians , Khaad , Northern Alliance and who - not ! The whole world , my friends , is united to fight against the innocent Pakistanis .
But by no chance and I say none whatsoever for the people ,
can these worse than animals , psychopaths
be a citizen of Pakistan , locals , people of the same country . They can be Hindus , Jews , Christians , Zionists and all that comes into the mind , but again they cant be Muslims .
THEY JUST CANT BE JIHADIS WHO WE ONCE IMPORTED AND INDOCTRINATED TO PAVE WAY FOR THE AFGHAN JIHAD LED BY THE COMMANDER OF THE FAITHFUL AND AUGMENTED BY THE FORCED ISLAMIZATION AND SUBSEQUENT RADICALIZATION OF THE WHOLE PAKISTANI SOCIETY !
You see that ?
You totally misunderstand the point. Train your subconscious to stop making up stuff from it's own.
No one said "They cannot be Pakistani citizen" or "they just cannot be jihadis" ... No where I implied
the part you said in RED. That's lack of understanding on your part.
You cannot deny involvement of third hand. Your
military & civilian government keeps referring to third hand;
don't you hear Army itself pointing that all the time?. May be likes-of-you are the ONLY wise think-tanks left &
military is just bluffing when they point out third hand. Military even sang songs pointing out third hand "
Azm-e-Nau"... Remember. You think
you know 4th generation war better, then go give those precious consultations to Army generals. As they are backing
so-called "Talks" too.
When we point out involvement of third hand, likes of you automatically presume we are i denial of local criminal. No we are NOT. But what you fail to understand is that there are multiple isolated groups at work.
They have locals among them of course. But their ultimate controllers are the third hand.
YOU are in denial mode boss.
Also,
hindus can be Pakistani too; there are many hindus & sikhs
in Tribal regions, As I wrote in original post.
Jews can be Pakistani too. See that shows you lack understanding of what likes-of-me say & jump to false conclusions about our POV.
Here Military (
ISPR) even made songs pointing to
a Third Hand... Who are you to deny: Even General Kiyani said we'll not allow
Grand Game in the region. What was he referring to???
اک نئي چال کے جال لايا هے وه
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Also, FC are killed in
Mohmand Agency, while operation was planned for
N.Waziristan. So now will you do 2 operations, one in N.Wazir & one in Mohmand. Is your Army capable to tackling all that.?
You will not fight the Taliban and win with this " denial "
And jumping to
impulsive conclusions and actions, as likes-of-you do, we'll end up with a
Pakistan-Spring. Make your choice.
...Yes , a TV hosts is now responsible .. stop understanding the Taliban as some saints ..
Irrespective of whether Mir-Jafar has any role in anything or not. What we know for sure is that a tape of his was released where he was talking rubbish of Col.Imam, to a TTP guy. And if the think-tank was doing it's duties, keeping an eye on the news,
ALL 3 of Pakistani agencies authenticated that tape as genuine. & ALL 3 agencies gave their report to PM Gilani. But nothing happened afterwards.
Again you presumed here that ppl
take Taliban as saints, NO one does. That's your false presumption. Your problem is that
you over-simplify the events. You think real life is a movie or a video game. There are either heros or villains. No,,
reality is more complex than that.
Only Pakistan army is responsible for fixing this mess.
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Of course Army is "responsible", because they are primarily responsible for creating the mess in the first place. By repeatedly derailing the democratic process & other things too. Politicians chipped in next, probably had larger share in the mess, but still they are NOT the starters of it all. Those who created the mess to begin with, are responsible for fixing it.
If possible can you post the video of that particular program by Hamid Mir?
