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President Trump speaking Monday in Fort Myer, Va. His comments could open a turbulent new chapter in relations with Pakistan. Credit Al Drago for The New York Times
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — President Trump’s appeal for India’s help on Afghanistan set off alarm bells on Tuesday in Pakistan, where officials warned that the approach risked jolting a tumultuous relationship. They also expressed relief that Mr. Trump did not call for abrupt reductions in military aid to Pakistan, which the United States has long accused of going easy on militants.

As part of Mr. Trump’s new plan for addressing the 16-year United States conflict in Afghanistan, he asked India — which Pakistan has historically seen as its enemy — to “help us more,” especially with economic assistance.

Mr. Trump also reiterated his predecessors’ calls that Islamabad crack down on militant groups that have waged attacks from bases in Pakistani territory.

“We have been paying Pakistan billions and billions of dollars at the same time they are housing the very terrorists that we are fighting,” Mr. Trump said on Monday, although he stopped short of cutting off military aid, as some Pakistani elites had feared.

Pakistan and United States have long had a troubled relationship, increasingly strained by differences over Pakistan’s role in Afghanistan. Even before American military and intelligence operatives tracked down and killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011, American officials chided the Pakistan’s military and intelligence agency as harboring or turning a blind eye to militants.

Pakistani officials, in turn, have cited Indian influence as a primary cause of instability and insecurity in Afghanistan.

Even before Mr. Trump unveiled his strategy on Monday, Islamabad was apprehensive and concerned.

The Pakistani military has been at the forefront of formulating the country’s foreign policy and has taken the lead in defining the contours of Islamabad’s relationship with Afghanistan and India. The civilian government has very little say, if any, in these policy initiatives.

Pakistani officials said they expected private contractors to take a more dominant role than troops already in Afghanistan.

Sehar Kamran, an opposition lawmaker senator who leads an Islamabad- based think tank, sad that Mr. Trump’s plan appeared to be “more of the same, under much more colorful language and contradictory bluster.”

“The shift from a timeline-oriented approach to a condition-based one, I think, is only the vocalization of a longstanding practice,” she said, adding. “What is concerning for Pakistan, however, is the contradiction within his statement that expresses both an acknowledgment of the country’s sacrifices while simultaneously downplaying them by continuing accusations of ‘sheltering terrorists,’ and doing not enough with billions and billions paid by America.”

Ms. Kamran said that pushing India to play a stronger role inside Afghanistan would isolate Washington’s friends in Islamabad “without realizing, understanding or perhaps deliberately underestimating the impact of increasing Indian presence on Pakistan’s western border.”

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“An unnecessary flexing of military muscles and the deployment of additional troops at this time will only undo much that has been achieved over many years diplomatically, and serve to further antagonize regional countries like Pakistan, China, and Russia,” she said.

Analysts said Pakistan’s dependence on American aid had declined in recent years — partly as China flexes its military might in South Asia — giving policy makers in Islamabad more room to maneuver.

“Pakistan is prepared to absorb the impact of a more assertive U.S. policy toward the country,” said Arif Rafiq, a nonresident fellow at the Middle East Institute in Washington. “It’s the most economically stable that it’s been in a decade, thanks in part to massive Chinese investment, and it has managed to secure much of its border regions despite the withdrawal of most U.S. combat forces.”

Mr. Rafiq said that Pakistan also knows that it has several options to counter punitive actions by Washington, including closing supply routes to Afghanistan.

“I think what Pakistan hopes for is the U.S. to engage it as a partner in Afghanistan, rather than as a contractor deputed to arrest or kill insurgent leaders named by Washington,” Mr. Rafiq said. “That requires coordination on border security and a structured dialogue process with the Taliban. I think Islamabad will remain rather firm in steering its engagement with both Kabul and Washington in that direction.”

Other analysts offered an even more scathing view of Mr. Trump’s speech.

“By inviting India to be more active in Afghanistan, Trump has confirmed the worst fears of Pakistan’s generals: that America is in cahoots with India against Pakistan,” said Mosharraf Zaidi, a foreign-policy analyst in Islamabad.

“There may never be a perfect approach to convince Pakistan to abandon the Haqqani network, but this speech was a terrible attempt,” Mr. Zaidi said, referring to the Pakistan-based militant group that has been blamed for most of the deadly attacks inside Afghanistan.

However, Maria Sultan, a defense analyst based in Islamabad, said the Trump policy was “not as bad as we were expecting. The responsibility has been essentially shifted to Afghanistan.”

She warned that intelligence based operations against groups inside Pakistan might increase. “This will further reduce the space for cooperation between Pakistan and U.S. and will be counterproductive for a long-term relationship,” she said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/world/asia/pakistan-trump-afghanistan-india.html
 
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Did Mr. Trump ever take a class of basic geography? Because the last time I checked, India doesn't border Afghanistan and the other access routes don't appear to be so favorable, except for causing manageable nuisance.

So, where exactly would this direct Indian help come from? Through Iran? From above China or Pakistan? Thorough the mountains of Central Asia, perhaps?

What an inexperienced impulse-driven President of USA fails to realize is that here's no victory in Afghanistan, without Pakistan getting on board. Doubt that? Go ahead with the policy of isolation and blame shifting, you will see yourself standing on square-one in a couple years time-frame.
 
He just asked for developmental cooperation in Afghandustan.
Read between the lines. The phrase of "help us more" doesn't refer only to developmental assistance. That, has been provided by New Delhi since a long period of time, in a way that fulfills their policy objectives.
 
Read between the lines. The phrase of "help us more" doesn't refer only to developmental assistance. That, has been provided by New Delhi since a long period of time, in a way that fulfills their policy objectives.
They're tired of getting defeated in Afghanistan on daily basis, so now they want India as a scapegoat.
 
Nope, the scapegoat is Pakistan.
Is it based, on the premise of the inability to accept the failure of the trillion dollar war machine and multi-national coalition, to achieve the aims and objectives in Afghanistan? What is there to be accomplished, by sidelining the main player in Afghan affairs?
 
Is it based on the premise of the inability, to accept the failure of the trillion dollar war machine and multi-national coalition, to achieve the aims and objectives in Afghanistan? What is there to be accomplished, by sidelining the main player in Afghan affairs?

India will be the scapegoat they couldn't make Pakistan their scape goat even after this over a decade long war so the thought of Pakistan being a scape goat now is a joke
 
Is it based on the premise of the inability, to accept the failure of the trillion dollar war machine and multi-national coalition, to achieve the aims and objectives in Afghanistan? What is there to be accomplished by sidelining the main player in Afghan affairs?

You're coming after the wrong guy here.

You want to know the real facts on the ground in Afghanistan? You talk with the Soldiers & Marines. See what they think of drug-addicted, child raping, awol going A"NA". Not the Generals or Ambassadors who come to visit outposts for 2 hours listening to the good stories.

Pakistan has failed itself here. By continuing to act like it has the greatest role to play in Afghanistan to a country that decides it's military strategy in the hands of politicians who were spoon-fed their entire life. Pakistan inherited Afghanistan after the Soviets left and Taliban took over. It let itself be plagued by tribalism of someone else's politics when it can't even handle it's own.

Ask any American on the street of NYC or Charlottesville Pakistan is the one providing safe haven.

Pakistan's "strongly worded" response should be to double down on it's results it's achieved. 40% of Afghanistan is controlled by the Taliban not Pakistan. Pakistan's Army has advanced to it's International border with Afghanistan. Pakistan had fortified it's border with fences, walls, trench, and posts. Most importantly ut needs to give Afghan refugees a dignified return to their country. Demarcate the border. And wipe it's hands "clean". Of everything Pakistan has accomplished, perhaps it might need to remove itself and see the results.

Pakistan is a nobody compared to the US. It's news media will barely attract attention. Type in Pakistan to a google search Indian sources come up. Type in Pakistan to youtube, Indian sources. You get the idea. Pakistan's voice will never penetrate to Americans. All the coverage on Pakistan is negative. And to a President who gets his news from what he watches on Fox and Friends, god help you. The only thing saving Pakistan is some guy/lady who's duas are accepted. Not NS's "revolution", IK's dharnas, or COAS's "we want recognition" to CENTCOM's commander.
 
India will be the scapegoat they couldn't make Pakistan their scape goat even after this over a decade long war so the thought of Pakistan being a scape goat now is a joke
Nah, they have already. Making Pakistan a scape-goat isn't necessarily dependent on Pakistanis accepting that, also. Nor that it matters much. Its actually good for Islamabad, in the long term. A chance to wean ourselves off, from the dependency on dollars and F-16's.
 
Economic AiD.... Nothing more I say.. ..

India will not participate in any war out side U.N. umbrella..... Our position is very clear.... We will work on infrastructure and military support limited to Trining and equipment....
Our military presence in Afghanistan will limit to protection of our consulates and missions.....
 
US giving India more space in Afghanistan is Pakistan's bad dream come true. India will happily oblige US's request.

Economic AiD.... Nothing more I say.. ..

India will not participate in any war out side U.N. umbrella..... Our position is very clear.... We will work on infrastructure and military support limited to Trining and equipment....
Our military presence in Afghanistan will limit to protection of our consulates and missions.....

India will increase Military assistance to Afghanistan...and train more Afghan forces. This surely will increase India's presence and influence in Afghanistan...this will rattle Pakistan more than US increasing troops or calling Pakistan terror haven or even the threat of sanctions and cutting aid.
 
It was not a military request, he's just asking for more economic and developmental aid for Afghanistan, which is fine.

India have already been training the Afghan army officer corps and have donated what we can to their military.

More Indian civil engineer boots on the ground, more American troops/firepower, more stability building infrastructure for Afghanistan, and pressure on Pakistan to stop their support of the Afghan aka "good" Talibs.
 
India will increase Military assistance to Afghanistan...and train more Afghan forces. This surely will increase India's presence and influence in Afghanistan...this will rattle Pakistan more than US increasing troops or calling Pakistan terror haven or even the threat of sanctions and cutting aid.
We may increase the scale of assistance..... But No boots on ground.. not from Indian Army to the say least.....
Let us agree it is a mess and it is better to be safe in that mess....
 
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