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Trump team takes issue with Pakistani version of phone talk
ANWAR IQBAL — UPDATED
DEC 02, 2016 07:35AM

WASHINGTON: The Trump transition team has issued its own version of the Sharif-Trump telephone call , saying that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US president-elect Donald Trump did have a ‘productive conversation’ on Wednesday, but it lacked the “flowery language” included in the Pakistani version of this talk.
“President-elect Trump and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif spoke … had a productive conversation about how the United States and Pakistan will have a strong working relationship in the future,” said the Trump transition team in a rare readout of his conversation with a foreign leader.
“President-elect Trump also noted that he is looking forward to a lasting and strong personal relationship with Prime Minister Sharif,” the statement added.
An unidentified adviser to the Trump team said the Pakistani readout of the talk had “committed the president-elect to more than what he meant”.
Other members of the Trump team, quoted in media, pointed out that the Pakistanis overplayed Mr Trump’s offer to play “a role” in resolving Pakistan’s disputes with India.
See: Will President Trump be good or bad for Pakistan?
The most critical comment on the Pakistani readout, however, came from a former White House press secretary, Ari Fleischer: “It’s entirely inappropriate for the Pakistani government to release what an American president-elect says in the course of a phone call.”
Mr Fleischer, who was a member of former Republican president George Bush’s White House team and is close to the Trump transition team as well, noted that no government releases such readouts.
“We would never release what a foreign leader said to (ex-president) George W. Bush. We would talk about what George W. Bush said. But to release what somebody else says, I am not the spokesperson for Pakistan or any other nation,” he told CNN.
“So, for them to do it is an entire breach of diplomatic protocol and tradition. And if they had done that to me, I would be on the phone right now with their press secretary, chewing him out. The ambassador would be on the phone with their ambassador, chewing the ambassador out. And up and down the chain,” Mr Fleischer added.
Media criticial
The US media also criticised the Pakistani decision to release the readout, agreeing with Mr Fleischer that it was inappropriate.
“Readouts of phone calls between world leaders are usually written safely in order to protect leaders from incidental backlash — like the one the Trump team put out,” CNN noted.
“They’re dry and diplomatic statements summing up conversations using carefully chosen buzzwords.”
The Washington Post called the Pakistani release “a surprisingly candid read” and noted that it “focuses almost entirely on Trump’s contribution to the conversation, and reproduces them in a voice that is unmistakably his (Mr Trump’s)”.
The New York Times called it “a bizarre conversation”, noting that “while not exactly confirming the content, the Trump transition team did acknowledge the call”.
In a commentary on the conversation, the Forbes magazine described Mr Trump’s comments as “cozy, expansive, even flattering,” and warned that “his bluster is more likely to be taken as the initial signal of his administration’s position” on the Pakistan-India dispute.
“It matters that he uses words like ‘very good reputation’, ‘amazing work’, ‘visible in every way’, ‘the most intelligent’, ‘fantastic country’, ‘exceptional people’,” the magazine noted.
“One of the main messages it sends is that he shows no awareness of the issues between the United States, Pakistan and India,” Forbes added.
Published in Dawn, December 2nd, 2016

http://www.dawn.com/news/1299914/trump-team-takes-issue-with-pakistani-version-of-phone-talk
 
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This proves the argument that we need a Foreign Minister who understands what diplomacy is all about. Nawaz Sharif and his " Darbaris " are clueless about the norms of diplomatic Etiquette.

Well if they didn't have any issues before. Why was there a need to release the talks? ..I was afraid of this. The language was too unrealistic about how you are my close friend and have helped me win ( both never even met) and its turning out that the language was normal and we end up looking a laughing stock.

They think Like politicians. Maneuvering and moving and scheming for public polls. Diplomatic etiquettes are for trained bureaucrats. Every president from here to chille must have called him up and we were the only ones that revealed the talks. This left a bad impression.

What was the need for this? Talk behind in the shadows and create relations from there. Some of the most serious diplomatic deals were done behind channels untold to masses. We have idiots running the country.
 
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LOL..:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:... seriously,?? . ........its a high time for Pakistan to get a foreign minister and some good diplomats.. Trump may have said... but there is protocol to follow .. you dont go and release bravado and all tese stupid quotes to the media.........height of stupidity... whoever did that need a class...
 
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However way it happened it gave a lot of butt hurt and heart aches to India and the Jewish media thugs

Trump is not like Obama , that's for sure and that is perhaps a good thing
 
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They need to get their heads out of their Butter Chicken , hinds and focus on the part where TRUMP said

Pakistanis are FANTASTIC


Say it all out loud now !!!! in synchronized fashion

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I believe (just my opinion) all interaction between governments should be fully recorded (audio, video, transcript) and officially released for the general public. These interactions are not a private matter, they are not among two people, rather two states and every Pakistani citizen has the right to know what transpires between these meetings/conversations, whether our chosen government is working/negotiating in the best interest of the country and it's people or is incompetent and a sell out.

This proves the argument that we need a Foreign Minister who understands what diplomacy is all about. Nawaz Sharif and his " Darbaris " are clueless about the norms of diplomatic Etiquette.

What is your proof? @mods @Oscar @WAJsal

So Nawaz has been caught giving fake and exaggerated statements again.
 
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Trump is delusional and a proven liar. Nawaz isnt far off either. So, I don't know who to believe here. The Only thing to hint at here is the Indians panicked so much that they got someone on the trump's team to come up with this explanation today.

What people have to realize is that Trump is unpredictable. his methods are brash and highly nonsensical. He could be against something one day and pro it a day after. This is just a tiny hint of the kind of diplomatic nightmare this guy is going to be.

As far as the CNN and the rest of media houses here creating a big fuss is concerened then Pakistanis should know they it don't matter nothing what these big media wigs say. If their opinion mattered so much Trump would have never become the President. American public does not give a crap what CNN or NYT or the Washington post says. We're in a new age now. The Trump's age.
 
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Trump team takes issue with Pakistani version of phone talk
ANWAR IQBAL — UPDATED
DEC 02, 2016 07:35AM

WASHINGTON: The Trump transition team has issued its own version of the Sharif-Trump telephone call , saying that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US president-elect Donald Trump did have a ‘productive conversation’ on Wednesday, but it lacked the “flowery language” included in the Pakistani version of this talk.
“President-elect Trump and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif spoke … had a productive conversation about how the United States and Pakistan will have a strong working relationship in the future,” said the Trump transition team in a rare readout of his conversation with a foreign leader.
“President-elect Trump also noted that he is looking forward to a lasting and strong personal relationship with Prime Minister Sharif,” the statement added.
An unidentified adviser to the Trump team said the Pakistani readout of the talk had “committed the president-elect to more than what he meant”.
Other members of the Trump team, quoted in media, pointed out that the Pakistanis overplayed Mr Trump’s offer to play “a role” in resolving Pakistan’s disputes with India.
See: Will President Trump be good or bad for Pakistan?
The most critical comment on the Pakistani readout, however, came from a former White House press secretary, Ari Fleischer: “It’s entirely inappropriate for the Pakistani government to release what an American president-elect says in the course of a phone call.”
Mr Fleischer, who was a member of former Republican president George Bush’s White House team and is close to the Trump transition team as well, noted that no government releases such readouts.
“We would never release what a foreign leader said to (ex-president) George W. Bush. We would talk about what George W. Bush said. But to release what somebody else says, I am not the spokesperson for Pakistan or any other nation,” he told CNN.
“So, for them to do it is an entire breach of diplomatic protocol and tradition. And if they had done that to me, I would be on the phone right now with their press secretary, chewing him out. The ambassador would be on the phone with their ambassador, chewing the ambassador out. And up and down the chain,” Mr Fleischer added.
Media criticial
The US media also criticised the Pakistani decision to release the readout, agreeing with Mr Fleischer that it was inappropriate.
“Readouts of phone calls between world leaders are usually written safely in order to protect leaders from incidental backlash — like the one the Trump team put out,” CNN noted.
“They’re dry and diplomatic statements summing up conversations using carefully chosen buzzwords.”
The Washington Post called the Pakistani release “a surprisingly candid read” and noted that it “focuses almost entirely on Trump’s contribution to the conversation, and reproduces them in a voice that is unmistakably his (Mr Trump’s)”.
The New York Times called it “a bizarre conversation”, noting that “while not exactly confirming the content, the Trump transition team did acknowledge the call”.
In a commentary on the conversation, the Forbes magazine described Mr Trump’s comments as “cozy, expansive, even flattering,” and warned that “his bluster is more likely to be taken as the initial signal of his administration’s position” on the Pakistan-India dispute.
“It matters that he uses words like ‘very good reputation’, ‘amazing work’, ‘visible in every way’, ‘the most intelligent’, ‘fantastic country’, ‘exceptional people’,” the magazine noted.
“One of the main messages it sends is that he shows no awareness of the issues between the United States, Pakistan and India,” Forbes added.
Published in Dawn, December 2nd, 2016

http://www.dawn.com/news/1299914/trump-team-takes-issue-with-pakistani-version-of-phone-talk


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Trump team takes issue with Pakistani version of phone talk

WASHINGTON: The Trump transition team has issued its own version of the Sharif-Trump telephone call, saying that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US president-elect Donald Trump did have a ‘productive conversation’ on Wednesday, but it lacked the “flowery language” included in the Pakistani version of this talk.

“President-elect Trump and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif spoke … had a productive conversation about how the United States and Pakistan will have a strong working relationship in the future,” said the Trump transition team in a rare readout of his conversation with a foreign leader.

“President-elect Trump also noted that he is looking forward to a lasting and strong personal relationship with Prime Minister Sharif,” the statement added.

An unidentified adviser to the Trump team said the Pakistani readout of the talk had “committed the president-elect to more than what he meant”.

Other members of the Trump team, quoted in media, pointed out that the Pakistanis overplayed Mr Trump’s offer to play “a role” in resolving Pakistan’s disputes with India.

See: Will President Trump be good or bad for Pakistan?

The most critical comment on the Pakistani readout, however, came from a former White House press secretary, Ari Fleischer: “It’s entirely inappropriate for the Pakistani government to release what an American president-elect says in the course of a phone call.”

Mr Fleischer, who was a member of former Republican president George Bush’s White House team and is close to the Trump transition team as well, noted that no government releases such readouts.

“We would never release what a foreign leader said to (ex-president) George W. Bush. We would talk about what George W. Bush said. But to release what somebody else says, I am not the spokesperson for Pakistan or any other nation,” he told CNN.

“So, for them to do it is an entire breach of diplomatic protocol and tradition. And if they had done that to me, I would be on the phone right now with their press secretary, chewing him out. The ambassador would be on the phone with their ambassador, chewing the ambassador out. And up and down the chain,” Mr Fleischer added.

Media criticial
The US media also criticised the Pakistani decision to release the readout, agreeing with Mr Fleischer that it was inappropriate.

“Readouts of phone calls between world leaders are usually written safely in order to protect leaders from incidental backlash — like the one the Trump team put out,” CNN noted.

“They’re dry and diplomatic statements summing up conversations using carefully chosen buzzwords.”

The Washington Post called the Pakistani release “a surprisingly candid read” and noted that it “focuses almost entirely on Trump’s contribution to the conversation, and reproduces them in a voice that is unmistakably his (Mr Trump’s)”.

The New York Times called it “a bizarre conversation”, noting that “while not exactly confirming the content, the Trump transition team did acknowledge the call”.

In a commentary on the conversation, the Forbes magazine described Mr Trump’s comments as “cozy, expansive, even flattering,” and warned that “his bluster is more likely to be taken as the initial signal of his administration’s position” on the Pakistan-India dispute.

“It matters that he uses words like ‘very good reputation’, ‘amazing work’, ‘visible in every way’, ‘the most intelligent’, ‘fantastic country’, ‘exceptional people’,” the magazine noted.

“One of the main messages it sends is that he shows no awareness of the issues between the United States, Pakistan and India,” Forbes added.

Published in Dawn, December 2nd, 2016


http://www.dawn.com/news/1299914/trump-team-takes-issue-with-pakistani-version-of-phone-talk
 
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